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First - been lurking here an age, loving what I'm seeing, but finally have something worth contributing:

Back in late 2004, starwars.com featured a story about the Holiday Special and references to it having been cut from the DVD extras disc - it's not there now, but this confirms it was around - http://www.starwarsholidayspecial.com/news.htm

This story went round loads of news sources, and pretty much advertised the HS to people (like me) who had never heard of it. That led me here, and then to myspleen. So far from trying to destroy every copy, this actually created a demand. But also what it did was tell me a bit about Chewie's back story, including the giant trees etc.

So, when we all watched ROTS, there would have been plenty of us saying 'Ah, how clever, they've taken that bit of the EU and woven it into this - the Wookies realy do live on Kashyyyk, and in giant trees, just like in that terrible old TV show'. Which must have been the idea of mentioning the HS all along.

Except - did anyone else feel the Wookies were a token offering to the OT diehards? They are only shown so Yoda can react to order 66, and then say bye to Chewie, and we feel all warm becuase we like the link up to the OT. That scene could have been set on any planet, with any race, just like all the other order 66s. OK, I'm just as sentimental as the next man, so I can go with that, just to hear Yoda's line.

But. Guarding a Jedi, I would imagine, sticks in the brain - not every Wookie is called. So, I might imagine that when he next sees someone wielding a light sabre (Luke on the Falcon en route to Alderaan), while talking about the force, it might have crossed his mind to mention it? Something like 'Wow a light sabre, haven't seen one in a while. Hey Han, this force stuff's not so daft, I knew a little green fella once, and could he ever look after himself'. Or maybe 'Han, remember that little green man I told you about, ask them about him, maybe you'll beleive me then'.

No. Instead, he plays chess. Am I the only one to spot this hole? Or is Chewie as forgetful as Lucas?
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It's really not that big of a hole. Wookies live to be around 300. I'm sure Chewie has seen plenty of Lightsabers. And maybe he was paying close attention to the chess game since R2 was winning.
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
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Originally posted by: fabwill
First - been lurking here an age, loving what I'm seeing, but finally have something worth contributing:

Back in late 2004, starwars.com featured a story about the Holiday Special and references to it having been cut from the DVD extras disc - it's not there now, but this confirms it was around - http://www.starwarsholidayspecial.com/news.htm

This story went round loads of news sources, and pretty much advertised the HS to people (like me) who had never heard of it. That led me here, and then to myspleen. So far from trying to destroy every copy, this actually created a demand. But also what it did was tell me a bit about Chewie's back story, including the giant trees etc.

So, when we all watched ROTS, there would have been plenty of us saying 'Ah, how clever, they've taken that bit of the EU and woven it into this - the Wookies realy do live on Kashyyyk, and in giant trees, just like in that terrible old TV show'. Which must have been the idea of mentioning the HS all along.

Except - did anyone else feel the Wookies were a token offering to the OT diehards? They are only shown so Yoda can react to order 66, and then say bye to Chewie, and we feel all warm becuase we like the link up to the OT. That scene could have been set on any planet, with any race, just like all the other order 66s. OK, I'm just as sentimental as the next man, so I can go with that, just to hear Yoda's line.

But. Guarding a Jedi, I would imagine, sticks in the brain - not every Wookie is called. So, I might imagine that when he next sees someone wielding a light sabre (Luke on the Falcon en route to Alderaan), while talking about the force, it might have crossed his mind to mention it? Something like 'Wow a light sabre, haven't seen one in a while. Hey Han, this force stuff's not so daft, I knew a little green fella once, and could he ever look after himself'. Or maybe 'Han, remember that little green man I told you about, ask them about him, maybe you'll beleive me then'.

No. Instead, he plays chess. Am I the only one to spot this hole? Or is Chewie as forgetful as Lucas?


I believe that Chewie was added in there for marquee value only. Just to get the OT faithful in the theater (like we needed an incentive like that anyway, ya know...). Chewie had no role in the plot.....barely did anything either. It was depressing a bit, but it wasn't a surprise. I figured it would be a cheap way to try and get people in to see the movie.

As for the continuity issues it raises.....they are very good questions. When Chewie sees Obi-Wan in the Cantina, he has to recognize that Obi is a Jedi and wouldn't he ask Obi about the Jedi or Yoda as you mentioned?

These are good points. It only strengthens the notion that Lucas was doing these just to get them done and make as much money as possible while doing it.

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Solo: "Well, hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side..."

Chewie: "Grrrrlll!"

Solo: "What? What are you saying, Chewie?"

Chewie: "Grrr... Grrrll grrrww!"

Solo: "Really? Jedi knights? The force?!"

Chewie: "Grrrlll... grrrlll grrrrrr..."

Solo: "Order 66? Yoda?! Really?"

Luke: "Hey, how come you know he said things like 'yoda' and 'order 66' only by listening to that grrlll sound he did?"

Solo: "If you get to be close to a wookie for as long as I did, you'll be able to understand them too..."

Obi-Wan: "Oh damn it, the wookie knows too much, he'll tell everything... C'mon, everyone, look at this pen..." (puts his sunglasses)

ZAP! A bright light, and everyone gets confused

Obi-Wan (remoces his sunglasses): "So... how far to Alderaan?"
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LOL.


"A Jedi can feel the force flow through him".
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McCallum did say there was substantially more to the Wookiee subplot that was ultimately cut because it did not advance the central plot and because the movie was running quite long. I imagine, as is usually the case with Lucas' deleted scenes, that they would have actually helped the plot and would have made the Kashyyyk scenes seem less of fan-boy gratification. I suppose me might see on the DVD release, assuming these scenes get included in the supplements. After all, has anybody complained that at 148 minutes, the movie ran too long? Titanic in space my foot!
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I think the regular non-SW fan movie goer would get tired, but I wouldn't mind watching a 4 hour SW movie, if it was a good one.
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I like your story, Ric. That was pretty good. But honestly, I think that for the sake of time, they just cut out the scene where Bail Organa asks Captain Antilles to wipe the memory on the Wookiee as well.
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Originally posted by: Bossk
I like your story, Ric. That was pretty good. But honestly, I think that for the sake of time, they just cut out the scene where Bail Organa asks Captain Antilles to wipe the memory on the Wookiee as well.


now if they'd just wipe my memory of the prequels.