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Hello, it’s well done but I was wondering if the earlier lightsaber use in the alternate rescue sequence would undermine Obi Wan’s hesitation & character arc for the rest of the edit
Hello, it’s well done but I was wondering if the earlier lightsaber use in the alternate rescue sequence would undermine Obi Wan’s hesitation & character arc for the rest of the edit
Nvm
- Prolonged Obi-Wan looking for the entrance with 1.5 seconds
-> Reshaped some of the new soundmix
-> Added a sewer pipe that Obi-Wan swims out of
-> Added bubbles as if he just jumped down into the pipe of which he then proceeds out of
-> Removed Haja’s “Call you in a bit” to see if it flows better - I have no preferance.
@jrs81 Just read your post before render, so I removed that just for you. I felt different about it - like it “sealed the deal” of him and Haja speaking, but perhaps more people agree with you. Tell me.
-> Re-did some more on the soundmixing (replaced saber clashes that were bleeding with the old music, re-did some ambience)
-> Lowered volume in certain places
-> Re-did and switched about a lot of notes for a more “coherent” soundtrack
Hello, it’s well done but I was wondering if the earlier lightsaber use in the alternate rescue sequence would undermine Obi Wan’s hesitation & character arc for the rest of the edit
I’ve taken this into consideration, and I’ve concluded that it doesn’t. It’s subjective of course, but here are my reasonings:
So none of this should interfere with the first time he uses his full powers (saving Leia with force grab) and then later on.
Good question. Hope you liked the answer.
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The Ancient Lore
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Titanic Restructured
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whoa … I have nothing to add expect I am so freaking excited. Your clips looks great.
So the scene go something like:
Reeva contact Bounty Hunters / puts out bounty -> Obi-Wan sees they are being targeted -> They are on the run, Bounty Hunters are looking for him -> They run into alleyway, Obi-Wan slap the dude down -> Inquisitors arrive and confront Reeva -> Leia climbs up a ladder to the rooftoops, Obi-Wan is seen running up there already -> Inquisitor “Whispery-Voice” Guy marches through the streets -> Leia and Obi-Wan continues to run on the roof, and then Bounty Hunter starts to shoot -> and then some alterations to the overall pacing and tone of that scene. It doesn’t go on for way too long, and it focuses on Obi-Wan and Leia.
I really like this idea of Leia not running from Ben even though I had no problem with that plot point except for the slow chase. I might incorporate this into an edit im working on
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So entrance (https://streamable.com/r4libo) and escape:
-> Added water in the background as to imply there is water both inside and outside (in the pipes surrounding the area), flowing, as if this was one of many exit points from the Imperial Sewer Location.
-> Added alarm SFX and color, to keep up with continuity that they are fleeing from the area
-> Tweaked some ambience
So the scene go something like:
Reeva contact Bounty Hunters / puts out bounty -> Obi-Wan sees they are being targeted -> They are on the run, Bounty Hunters are looking for him -> They run into alleyway, Obi-Wan slap the dude down -> Inquisitors arrive and confront Reeva -> Leia climbs up a ladder to the rooftoops, Obi-Wan is seen running up there already -> Inquisitor “Whispery-Voice” Guy marches through the streets -> Leia and Obi-Wan continues to run on the roof, and then Bounty Hunter starts to shoot -> and then some alterations to the overall pacing and tone of that scene. It doesn’t go on for way too long, and it focuses on Obi-Wan and Leia.
I really like this idea of Leia not running from Ben even though I had no problem with that plot point except for the slow chase. I might incorporate this into an edit im working on
Yeah, I think it helps a lot with the pace.
whoa … I have nothing to add expect I am so freaking excited. Your clips looks great.
Thank you, brother.
WHAT HAVE I DONE?
The Ancient Lore
Kenobi: A Star Wars Story
Harry Potter Revisited
Game of Thrones Film Edits
Titanic Restructured
… and more.
- Prolonged Obi-Wan looking for the entrance with 1.5 seconds
-> Reshaped some of the new soundmix
-> Added a sewer pipe that Obi-Wan swims out of
-> Added bubbles as if he just jumped down into the pipe of which he then proceeds out of
-> Removed Haja’s “Call you in a bit” to see if it flows better - I have no preferance.
@jrs81 Just read your post before render, so I removed that just for you. I felt different about it - like it “sealed the deal” of him and Haja speaking, but perhaps more people agree with you. Tell me
Better. would also move “if it’s the sewers you want” to start while he is walking and end it during the alien fish. LEAD us into the next scene. The dialogue, OB1 Walking, and alien fish are all transition to the next scene which is OB1 swimming. The swell in music while Ob1 is swimming is also too good to cover up with dialogue.
My 2 cents. But you really did make this idea work. Impressed 👍
UPDATE:. I would start the line when he stops walking and stands there a moment to think. He would be recalling what Haja told him. If it’s the sewers you want (Obi on screen) there is only one place to go (entrance on screen) be safe (alien fish on screen) music swells…
- Prolonged Obi-Wan looking for the entrance with 1.5 seconds
-> Reshaped some of the new soundmix
-> Added a sewer pipe that Obi-Wan swims out of
-> Added bubbles as if he just jumped down into the pipe of which he then proceeds out of
-> Removed Haja’s “Call you in a bit” to see if it flows better - I have no preferance.
@jrs81 Just read your post before render, so I removed that just for you. I felt different about it - like it “sealed the deal” of him and Haja speaking, but perhaps more people agree with you. Tell me
Better. would also move “if it’s the sewers you want” to start while he is walking and end it during the alien fish. LEAD us into the next scene. The dialogue, OB1 Walking, and alien fish are all transition to the next scene which is OB1 swimming. The swell in music while Ob1 is swimming is also too good to cover up with dialogue.
My 2 cents. But you really did make this idea work. Impressed 👍
UPDATE:. I would start the line when he stops walking and stands there a moment to think. He would be recalling what Haja told him. If it’s the sewers you want (Obi on screen) there is only one place to go (crowd/entrance on screen) be safe (alien fish on screen) music swells…
I totally agree.
This is something I put together in the other Kenobi redux thread, just in case it could be relevant to this project in some way:
I was one of those suckers who was actually really excited for Obi-Wan Kenobi (2022) because Deborah Chow and Kelley DIxon’s work on Better Call Saul and Breaking Bad fuckin’ rule. Needless to say, that was a bit misguided.
I don’t think I’m going to do the whole show, but it was just a fun little experiment. The edit isn’t supposed to be like BB/BCS fwiw, just approaching the material with some of the storytelling philosophy I learned from them.
At the very least, Deborah Chow’s sensibilities as a director were still conducive to being arranged in this way so at least some of my excitement wasn’t unfounded
This is absolutely excellent. This is the kind of thing people were actually looking forward to about the show.
The ending feels weird from the closed door to them coming out. Makes sense, but a tad rushed. Is there an elevator scene? Is there a scene (maybe inquisitors looking for them) that you can break away to before coming back to them?
Are you keeping the tombs in the base?
All good ideas and feedback. I’ll drink some beers now and reload, and do appropriate changes tomorrow!
It is shaping up to be quite something with all these good discussions.
Now - have a good evening, people!
WHAT HAVE I DONE?
The Ancient Lore
Kenobi: A Star Wars Story
Harry Potter Revisited
Game of Thrones Film Edits
Titanic Restructured
… and more.
Question, when will this be released?
TBH, I’m not a huge fan of how this whole sewer thing is working out. Also not a big fan of the music change during the final duel as well. But, that’s just me.
TBH, I’m not a huge fan of how this whole sewer thing is working out. Also not a big fan of the music change during the final duel as well. But, that’s just me.
What do you think is not working? I ask because say you saw this for the first time … what is and is not working?
TBH, I’m not a huge fan of how this whole sewer thing is working out. Also not a big fan of the music change during the final duel as well. But, that’s just me.
What do you think is not working? I ask because say you saw this for the first time … what is and is not working?
Well, for starters, I think the shots of the “fish” in the tanks is kind of weird and off putting. They just seem like they’re arbitrarily there. I feel like the beginning of the sewer section would be better if it just goes from Kenobi checking out the doorway to underneath the city and then it cuts to him swimming.
I also don’t think communicators work underwater so hearing Kumail talk to Obi-Wan while he’s swimming is also something I’m not a fan of. Maybe have him talking in Obi-Wan’s ear through the communicator while he’s checking out the door to establish that’s the doorway to the underbelly of the city and leads into the sewer system of the building that Leia is being held up in.
Another nitpick I have, which I will admit is something that Anjohan can’t really do anything about is the clothing discrepancy between the two scenes. The whole disguise thing of Obi-Wan and Leia when they leave the doorway works since you’d think they’d have to change after swimming back. But the clothing he wears in both of these scenes is vastly different and causes some continuity errors.
And finally… I’m just not a fan of putting this rescue so early in the series on a conceptual level. I think someone else already kind of said this but having him go full Jedi action hero to rescue Leia really undercuts the moment later in this episode where he uses the Force for the first time to save her when she falls off the building. I can honestly tell it’s a tricky situation since this is one of only a handful of big action moments in this series in an episode that’s entirely superfluous. But personally speaking, if I had the choice between just cutting everything from the Nur rescue or trying to implement key moments from it into the second episode, I would go with the former.
I feel like https://streamable.com/ngan0x is vastly superior to the mud that the writers made us trek through in the show. Well done! The only small off-putting thing in the episode is how the lightsabers didnt feel like lightsabers and felt like rods instead of plasma/lasers.
This is something I put together in the other Kenobi redux thread, just in case it could be relevant to this project in some way:
I was one of those suckers who was actually really excited for Obi-Wan Kenobi (2022) because Deborah Chow and Kelley DIxon’s work on Better Call Saul and Breaking Bad fuckin’ rule. Needless to say, that was a bit misguided.
I don’t think I’m going to do the whole show, but it was just a fun little experiment. The edit isn’t supposed to be like BB/BCS fwiw, just approaching the material with some of the storytelling philosophy I learned from them.
At the very least, Deborah Chow’s sensibilities as a director were still conducive to being arranged in this way so at least some of my excitement wasn’t unfounded
This is really great!
Anjohan: I hope that you use this in your edit! 😉
My edits:
https://ifdb.fanedit.org/fanedit-search/tag/faneditorname/phase3/
This is something I put together in the other Kenobi redux thread, just in case it could be relevant to this project in some way:
I was one of those suckers who was actually really excited for Obi-Wan Kenobi (2022) because Deborah Chow and Kelley DIxon’s work on Better Call Saul and Breaking Bad fuckin’ rule. Needless to say, that was a bit misguided.
I don’t think I’m going to do the whole show, but it was just a fun little experiment. The edit isn’t supposed to be like BB/BCS fwiw, just approaching the material with some of the storytelling philosophy I learned from them.
At the very least, Deborah Chow’s sensibilities as a director were still conducive to being arranged in this way so at least some of my excitement wasn’t unfounded
This is really great!
Anjohan: I hope that you use this in your edit! 😉
I second this, its really good.
This is all coming together really nicely. It’s amazing what one guy can do that a multi-billion dollar corporation can’t.
I feel like https://streamable.com/ngan0x is vastly superior to the mud that the writers made us trek through in the show. Well done! The only small off-putting thing in the episode is how the lightsabers didnt feel like lightsabers and felt like rods instead of plasma/lasers.
I felt something was off as well, just couldn’t put my hand on what it is.
TBH, I’m not a huge fan of how this whole sewer thing is working out. Also not a big fan of the music change during the final duel as well. But, that’s just me.
What do you think is not working? I ask because say you saw this for the first time … what is and is not working?
Well, for starters, I think the shots of the “fish” in the tanks is kind of weird and off putting. They just seem like they’re arbitrarily there. I feel like the beginning of the sewer section would be better if it just goes from Kenobi checking out the doorway to underneath the city and then it cuts to him swimming.
I also don’t think communicators work underwater so hearing Kumail talk to Obi-Wan while he’s swimming is also something I’m not a fan of. Maybe have him talking in Obi-Wan’s ear through the communicator while he’s checking out the door to establish that’s the doorway to the underbelly of the city and leads into the sewer system of the building that Leia is being held up in.
Another nitpick I have, which I will admit is something that Anjohan can’t really do anything about is the clothing discrepancy between the two scenes. The whole disguise thing of Obi-Wan and Leia when they leave the doorway works since you’d think they’d have to change after swimming back. But the clothing he wears in both of these scenes is vastly different and causes some continuity errors.
And finally… I’m just not a fan of putting this rescue so early in the series on a conceptual level. I think someone else already kind of said this but having him go full Jedi action hero to rescue Leia really undercuts the moment later in this episode where he uses the Force for the first time to save her when she falls off the building. I can honestly tell it’s a tricky situation since this is one of only a handful of big action moments in this series in an episode that’s entirely superfluous. But personally speaking, if I had the choice between just cutting everything from the Nur rescue or trying to implement key moments from it into the second episode, I would go with the former.
This is something I put together in the other Kenobi redux thread, just in case it could be relevant to this project in some way:
I was one of those suckers who was actually really excited for Obi-Wan Kenobi (2022) because Deborah Chow and Kelley DIxon’s work on Better Call Saul and Breaking Bad fuckin’ rule. Needless to say, that was a bit misguided.
I don’t think I’m going to do the whole show, but it was just a fun little experiment. The edit isn’t supposed to be like BB/BCS fwiw, just approaching the material with some of the storytelling philosophy I learned from them.
At the very least, Deborah Chow’s sensibilities as a director were still conducive to being arranged in this way so at least some of my excitement wasn’t unfounded
This is really great!
Anjohan: I hope that you use this in your edit! 😉I second this, its really good.
+1,tbh,I cannot imagine a better and more climatic opening for this movie.
Bte, Since you changed the title to “Kenobi:A Star Wars Story” are you gonna make a custom title card as well?
Preferred saga:
EI (DVD version) • EII (Blu-Ray) • CW (DVD) • TCW (smudger9’s fanedit) • ROTS (Octorox’s Extended version) •RO, Solo (originals) • Andor (smudger9’s episode I and EddieDean’s ep. 3-4) • OT (2004’s DVD) • Mando (s01: smudger9’s fanedit, s02: original) • TBOBF (smudger9’s) • TFA, TLJ (originals) • TROS - HAL’s edit
What I’m trying to say is the opening promises a whole different type of feel then the rest of the series does. If I am to use the whole opening, I would have to do some more, new sound mixes myself and totally remove music at certain scenes and rather “build up the score” throughout the film. Because we can’t go from this amazing, intriguing, but finally lonely opening, to music->music->music->.
That being said! I could definitely do that, but the edit would probably be pushed back another week or two.
This leaves us with two choices:
I’ll respond some more and start editing some more very soon now.
I’ll look into smoothing out the escape (and doing things suggested for the entrance).
WHAT HAVE I DONE?
The Ancient Lore
Kenobi: A Star Wars Story
Harry Potter Revisited
Game of Thrones Film Edits
Titanic Restructured
… and more.