logo Sign In

Jesus Cartoon controversy

Author
Time
I realise everyone here is so far removed from this that it wouldn't matter much, but it matters to me, so I'm writing about it anyway.

The Sheaf, the student newspaper at my university, got caught up over the whole Mohammed cartoon controversy. There were letters to the editor and debate back and forth about whether or not to print the cartoons in question or not. Eventually, a few weeks ago, they decided to play it safe and not print them (unlike the UPEI paper, which got halted when they did print them), and instead write a whole section filled with a series of articles and columns about the controversy. While I agreed with their decision not to print the comics, I didn't think they needed to tell us over and over that they weren't printing them, and this whole section was essentially flogging a dead horse. The editor-in-chief resigned because of this. He strongly believes in free speech, and felt the best thing to have done would have been to print the comics and bring the controversy to the forefront, rather than kill it with these articles. Bad enough.

But the controversy didn't stop there.

This past week, a cartoon was printed depicting Jesus Christ fellating an anthropomorphated pig (HERE). This has sparked outrage across campus and around the city. Peter Mackinnon, the president of the University, has made a public statement against the cartoon, and it hasn't stopped there. I'm suprised this hasn't hit the local news, but it probably will by Monday, and it might even go national. It's almost too bad Petey Mack hadn't been the Supreme Court nominee (as was rumoured), because then this would definitely get national coverage!

But this has caused huge outrage on campus, particularly from the Catholic college, and from many christians on campus. Already, two more writers have resigned. Many people have called for boycotts of the Sheaf and its advertisers (which, in my opinion, can't be blamed yet. They don't know what was to be published). Personally, I didn't find the comic particularly offensive, and I actually laughed at it. I can understand how offensive some people would find this, though. What I can't believe is the insane hypocrisy of the Sheaf, first refusing to publish the Mohammed cartoons so as not to offend, and then turning around and offering this. I can't believe it. I think I too will be boycotting the Sheaf, which is unfortunate, because it was the best toilet paper on campus.

EDIT: I forgot to mention that the cartoon was published under a pseudonym, so few people know who actually drew it. I do.
Author
Time
I'm so glad nobody has an opinion on this. It makes mine so much easier.
Author
Time
I'm certainly not thrilled about it, but it's a cartoon. What can you do? They have a right to post it just like the Danes had a right to publish what they did.

See, this is a difference between the terrorists and everyone else. Americans shrug and go "that's disgusting"... THEY get angry and go out and kill people.

http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/4905/bigmo8ij.jpg
How can anybody kill a man over something this hilarious?

Another element of the Danish cartoons is that they were actually TRUTHFUL. They made a point, and they were, IMO, quite humorous. This pig cartoon you mentioned was just for shock value, it seems. There is no underlying "hidden" honesty in Jesus effing a pig. It's just crass and stupid. But, well, not all, but especially the one above DOES point out a ridiculous element to the suicide bombers.

4

Author
Time
I agree with Chaltab. The Jesus cartoon seems to come out of nowhere, while the previous cartoon actually had some basis behind it.

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

Author
Time
Something I learned from Rush Limbaugh: for such a joke to be funny, there has to be at least some degree of truth to it. I have no idea what the artist of this Jesus cartoon is trying to say. I know EXACTLY what the Danish cartoons mean:

http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/3951/behead1wi.jpg

4

Author
Time
The artist says that he drew the cartoon because he felt that they were right to not publish the Mohammed cartoons, and never expected them to publish this one either. I just wanted to get the whole thing off my chest, and maybe start some discussion.
Author
Time
I really don't think that many people are rioting. It just seems like that because the damn news are just every where.
Author
Time
Originally posted by: sybeman
The artist says that he drew the cartoon because he felt that they were right to not publish the Mohammed cartoons, and never expected them to publish this one either. I just wanted to get the whole thing off my chest, and maybe start some discussion.


Well, it can certainly be argued that publishing the Mohammed cartoons wasn't RESPONSIBLE, but it was in no way, shape, or form ILLIEGAL. Those that did riot have no ethical or legal grounds to stand on whatsoever; I don't care what is taboo in your religion--you DON'T start killing people over it, not in a civilized society.

4

Author
Time
they are just cartoons they dont bother me, plus the kosher part come on that is funny
Author
Time
Originally posted by: segaflip
they are just cartoons they dont bother me, plus the kosher part come on that is funny
Yeah, that made me laugh too, and I am Catholic (or at least raised catholic - now I'm just a generic believer in God/Jesus). But I agree with Chaltab - this cartoon has no substance, it's just going for shock value. The perpetrators should be castrated and beheaded for crimes against intelligent humour.

War does not make one great.

Author
Time
That sounds retarded to me. the mslim cartoons weren't depicting mohammed being degraded sexually. What a bunch of scardy-morons whoever made the jesus cartoons. that is pure suckage if you ask me. but they should be able to print anything they want...but what's the genesis? a bunch of pussies, i think.
Author
Time
yep it went head to head with super nintendo, came out after the SMS, aka sega master system
Author
Time
Just an update. I know everyone here seems to agree that it's just a comic, and nothing to be worried about, and, for the most part, I agree with them. But that hasn't stopped it from being big here. The issue was on the local news yesterday, provincial news yesterday, the newspaper today, local conservative talk radio yesterday and today, and the former editor has been interviewed by the CBC for a national story.

And that's just mainstream media. Countless bloggers have quipped about it, and blogs have sprung up both in defense of the comic and calling for the boycott of the Sheaf and all its advertisers. It's crazy. Many of those blogs were mentioned on the radio this morning by a caller (after the host, John Gormley had to explain to listeners what a "blog" was).
Author
Time
Hey Sybe, what's say I phone one of the national tabloids here, thereby promoting the story to international status and inciting further racial/religious division and conflict? I'll split the money with you.

War does not make one great.

Author
Time
Sweet!

I realised, though, that I was bein ghypocritical myself, so today, I also linked to the Muslim cartoons.
Author
Time
Did I find the cartoon offensive? Yes. I also felt it was inflammation for inflammation's sake. In other words, typical of the "oh-so-enlightened" attitude that seems to exist at every student-run newspaper in the country; the attitude that says, "Let's see who we can piss off this week and then hide behind the rubric of freedom of the press."



What a bunch of idiots.

Princess Leia: I happen to like nice men.
Han Solo: I'm a nice man.

Author
Time
I think I'm with Gundark on this one. It seems like it was just shock for the sake of shock.

Plus I'm pretty sure the Muslim cartoons didn't show Mohammed performing any lewd sexual acts.

http://i.imgur.com/7N84TM8.jpg

Author
Time
Originally posted by: GundarkHunter
Did I find the cartoon offensive? Yes. I also felt it was inflammation for inflammation's sake. In other words, typical of the "oh-so-enlightened" attitude that seems to exist at every student-run newspaper in the country; the attitude that says, "Let's see who we can piss off this week and then hide behind the rubric of freedom of the press."



What a bunch of idiots.


Makes you angry, I'm sure. But do you plan to riot or kill anyone over it? Yes, that was rhetorical. I

It's hard to make a poltical statement when you've done nothing but attempt to shock people.

4

Author
Time
What pisses me off, is that Christians didn't have anything to do with this Mohammed cartoon, and the response has been to draw an offensive comic of their God and Saviour. The guy who drew it obviously had no dirt on Jesus either, and had to make up that disgusting sexual act in order to slag him off.

I'm sure any true Muslim would tell you that killing people is not the answer to anything. From what I understand of Islam, peace is one of their highest ideals, and the only instance in which violence is acceptable is in self-defense.
MTFBWY. Always.

http://www.myspace.com/red_ajax
Author
Time
I think this one was on the S.A.T.'s:
Violence and conquest are to Mohammed as unconditional love is to Jesus. I could be wrong.

I just thumbed through the Gospels and didn't find anything about him encouraging buggery. I did note that Jesus was a Jewish Rabbi. Pigs are considered unclean animals in Judaism, so I'm pretty sure this wasn't even an unspoken issue.
I am fluent in over six million forms of procrastination.
Author
Time
I think it's kind of misinterpreted a bit. Mohammed was apparently a great general at some point, but the only times he engaged in warfare were in defense of Mecca and Medina. I'm pretty sure that's right. So it wasn't 'turn the other cheek' material, but it was at least Yoda-style combat teachings:

A Jedi uses the Force for knowledge and defense, never for attack.

A Jedi being a Muslim, of course, and the Force, being, erm, Islam...
MTFBWY. Always.

http://www.myspace.com/red_ajax