James Bond 007 Thread — Page 4

EyeShotFirst said:

Goldeneye Never Say Never Again  re-scored  project

This. SO MUCH THIS. The SD edit was nice, but I'd love an HD one. NSNA's score is so much worse and un-Bond than GE's.

captainsolo said:

I've come to the conclusion that either it's all the result of different US and UK mixes (which is unlikely) or an abandoned 70mm 6 track mix (even more unlikely).

Interesting theories. It's too bad that the alternate mix is the only one on the BD/DVDs. I'm definitely glad that the first 5.1 alternate mix was used on the BD rather than the botched UE DVD one.

Has anyone made a preservation of the original track from the LD? I can't find the LD and would love to hear it. It should sync to the SE DVD easily.

Indeed. I've only seen a 720p version and it is the best looking version of the film despite the cropping (which isn't too far off from what could be cropped theatrically.)

The HDTV version's ridiculously better than the BD. I appreciate the intent to restore the original framing but using the master for the SE DVD then DVNR'ing it wasn't ideal. The HDTV master is better quality wise, being done far more recently.

Over on AVS they go into the application of fake grain layers to cover up the intense sharpening and removal of detail done by the processors.

The fake grain Lowry allegedly uses is unfortunate. It also takes away from the film look of the movies. All the Bonds look pristine but none have completely natural looking grain structure for their respective vintages... Ah well.

It may be possible to restore more of the original color, as has been shown on the half-hearted attempts on the recent BD issues, but I don't know if these will ever look the same.

They'd probably be able to do a relative approximation with shot-by-shot correction as Harmy did for his Despecialized, but, due to the random variables of the Technicolor process, one general setting probably won't work. OHMSS's color correction looks pretty spot on though, likely the best one that required CC; pity that they contrast boosted it to hell.

Should have been Bond :

If it wasn't a bad commercial I probably wouldn't mind.

http://www.totalfilm.com/news/could-idris-elba-be-the-next-james-bond

Could Idris Elba be the next Bond? I certainly hope he is. Here's why:

"A black Bond! How could that possibly be the same person?" you ask. For awhile now I have looked at the Bond films from a new angle. There's this theory going around that each actor that plays Bond is playing a different person entirely, who has just assumed the alias 'James Bond' as part of his being a secret agent. I think the films work better this way. The continuity otherwise is strenuous. Bond is killing bad guys and banging chicks in 1962 AND 2002? Yeah, no. After Casino Royale, the Bond movies have kind of decided to keep continuity, for once. The second they recast Bond, that continuity is, again, strained. But, if they cast Bond as a black man, they will have no choice but to explain that it is, in fact, a different agent. And that would be awesome.

"Blond Bond was bad enough, but now black? Why does everyone have to be so politically correct these days?" you may ask. Well, this isn't about political correctness. Idris Elba is a great actor, and I believe he could create a Bond like we've never seen before (I'm talking characterization here). If there were to be a black Bond, he would be my first choice.

"But why should we even make Bond black?" Well, why shouldn't we? There have, so far, been six white Bonds. I mean, seriously think about it. Six different white actors have given their spin on the character of James Bond. Wouldn't it be interesting to see a different take on it?

"But Ian Fleming created Bond, and he created Bond as a white man. If Bond was black, that would be going against how Ian Fleming described the character." Well, you know what? Ian Fleming never described the character as driving an invisible car. Films shouldn't have to adhere 100% to their source material, especially if there have already been 23 films derived from that source material, many of which have completely original stories. I mean, seriously. We've already had 23 (25 if Craig fulfills his contract) movies starring a white Bond. Why not some with a black one?

"Making Bond black would be like making George Washington black." James Bond is a fictional character.

"Yeah, but you wouldn't make Shaft white." No, because that would be rather insensitive. You have to realize that there are very few famous black characters in the media. If you made them white you would helping this problem grow. Also, stuff like this has been done before. Orson Welles played Othello once.

"Yeah, but... um." You're done? Okay, thanks.

PS: Sorry, this is mostly a response to some of the comments I've seen online and from my friends, I just wanted to present the information and get my entire argument out of the way just in case someone were to disagree with my opinion. 

a black Bond?  sorry to be politically incorrect, but no.  

Warbler said:

a black Bond?  sorry to be politically incorrect, but no.  

I don't think you read my post.

Tyrphanax said:

DominicCobb said:

"Yeah, but you wouldn't make Shaft white." No, because that would be rather insensitive. You have to realize that there are very few famous black characters in the media. If you made them white you would helping this problem grow. Also, stuff like this has been done before. Orson Welles played Othello once.

Double standards?

What I was trying to say is that the history of black people in the media is very different than the history of white people in the media. Black people have barely any action icons as is, so making one of them white would just be helping the unbalance. 

SilverWook said:

A lot of people have been considered to play Bond over the decades, even an American bloke or two. Even if Mr. Elba does a screen test, nothing may ever come of it. Just ask James Brolin and Sam Neill. ;)

I don't know for sure if he will actually be the new Bond, I just hope he is. I would like to point out, too, that there is a reasonable con to my argument, and that is that if Elba is Bond, Michael Fassbender will probably never have a chance.

No way... I had no idea that series existed. Must watch immediately!

SilverWook said:

IIRC, Entertainment Weekly was floating that idea back in the 90's, suggesting Denzel Washington play 007.

The idea of Bond being the "Dread Pirate Roberts" of spies was part of the plot of the 1967 Casino Royale movie.

But Bond needs to be able to speak with an English accent, could Denzel do that? 

DominicCobb said:

Warbler said:

a black Bond?  sorry to be politically incorrect, but no.  

I don't think you read my post.

I read your entire post.  

Warbler said:

DominicCobb said:

Warbler said:

a black Bond?  sorry to be politically incorrect, but no.  

I don't think you read my post.

I read your entire post.  

Weird. I explained why it wasn't a matter of political correctness.

I realized you weren't arguing to make black man Bond, just to be politically correct.   I was thinking that maybe I was being politically incorrect. 

Warbler said:

I realized you weren't arguing to make black man Bond, just to be politically correct.   I was thinking that maybe I was being politically incorrect. 

I get it now. And I understand that you're one of those guys who thinks movies should adhere to source material. Agree to disagree.

bkev said:

^Warb's a Bond purist. He's still mad that M is played by Judi Dench.

yep.  Especially since this is supposedly a reboot.   If this is supposed to Bond at the beginning of his career,  why not have the original M?   I am also pissed they did away with the traditional Bond opening scene, and that the in Casino Royal when Bond was asked whether he wanted his martini shaken or stirred he said "do I look like I give a crap?"  I mean were they intentionally trying to piss off the original Bond fans?  Of course, I don't think M should ever have been a woman.  That was purely a politically correct move to try to please the feminists.    Thing is,  there is no way to please the feminists, and still allow Bond to be Bond.   Its like trying a run Miss American contest that would please the feminists.  Its impossible.     

As far as I am concerned, James Bond died sometime after the events of The Living Daylights and the movies after that never happened.