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Yay!  For some reason the upload failed the first time, and I was about to blow a gasket, but it worked out this time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx2BqHTE_XY

Again, thanks, guys, for all the support, and I hope you enjoy it!

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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That film looks like such an ego booster. Apparently I've lived in houses better than Wayne Manor several times in my life. Wow!

"Fuck you. All the star wars movies were excellent. none of them sucked. Also, revenge of the sith is the best."

- DarthZorgon (YouTube)

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Nice. Good work, you really have the lighting situation worked out well. And I see you found a solution to your chair problem, most clever indeed!

That was pretty cool, I had never even heard of this particular incarnation of Batman before. Now I am going to have to dedicate some time to tracking down a copy.

Sorry to hear making the thing gave you fits, hopefully you have all the kinks out of your system now and will experience smoother sailing next time.

"Every time Warb sighs, an angel falls into a vat of mapel syrup." - Gaffer Tape

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Heh, thanks.  I find it funny that I fixed the lighting problem only to make a video that I immediately cast into black and white and added film deterioration to.  And, yeah, apparently the squeaky chair won't be my thing.  I replaced it with a piano stool this time (which also served as a convenient place to keep all the video cases I kept pulling out).  Oh, and I downloaded VLC thanks to your advice, and it served as an excellent tool for getting screen grabs from Batman.  Unfortunately, I was using my editing software to get grabs from Batman and Robin, and that was a much more complicated process.  Never gonna do that again!

Just so you know, I'm not planning on doing a fifteen part review of this (I think a synapse in my brain just exploded thinking about that!).  When you get right down to it, it's essentially a four hour movie!  My original plan was to make it two parts, one for the first half, and one for the second half, but as I sat down to write the script last night, I had already had enough trouble just getting all the elements to work in the first place that I just decided to start out with Chapter 1, with a retrospective of the first serial, and then, hopefully have 2-7 for part 2, and 8-15 for part 3.  But we'll see.  ^_^

And, yeah, it always surprises me how few people have heard of these earliest entries into the Batman film franchise.  Since I got the first Batman tape when I was about 5 or 6, I've been aware of it nearly my whole life, so it seems strange that other people don't.  But, yeah, it shouldn't be too hard to find.  I just got my DVD copy of Batman and Robin a few months ago!

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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I like the ROTJ vid. Gaffer makes it fun. But I still don't see why ROTJ needs to be logical, as long it's strong on imagination, fun, acting and character interaction. And it is all those things. Good enough for me.

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Gaffer Tape said:

Well, I just can't ever let this thread die, can I?!  But I have a good reason for resurrecting it again.  I actually just finished editing together a video version of my original argument!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tlx2ItNLeFM

It's a bit premature for me to be posting this since it hasn't processed yet as of this writing, but I'm just too excited to wait.

Ooh, wait!  It's ready!

Thanks for posting that link, I've posted it on the ESB/ROTJ Wishlist thread because some of the points he brings up might be fixable in a re-edit project and it would be great to hear any suggestions in that direction over there.

 

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Hey, awesome!  Thanks!  I'm always up for more exposure to an interested audience!  ^__^

And I'm sorry if I've totally derailed my own thread into a self-wanking glory fest for myself.

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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The depths of problems like this are beyond fixing via editing. This is reconceptualize and rewrite level stuff. The problem with this whole fanedit craze is we decide that everything wrong with a twenty year old film can and should be fixed, and the end result is a hacked up film. Just take a look at all the ROTJ fanedits who tried to "fix" the Ewoks in Return of the Jedi by removing them...

Sometimes good enough ought to just be left alone. Fanedits work when you take something crappy in hopes of making it into something bearable (though this begs the question: what is the point?). But fanedits of decent or good movies is something hard for me to get my head around.

"Every time Warb sighs, an angel falls into a vat of mapel syrup." - Gaffer Tape

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Yeah, I agree.  I think making a fanedit would be a fun experiment and fun experience for aspiring editors.  And while it's certainly not as damaging as an official re-edit, I still can't see it as anything but the same mentality going into both.  It's amazing the power that editing has, and it would be interesting to see if an edit could "fix" this problem.  But that's not why I made the video, and it's not why I made this thread.  I still think the rescue plan is stupid and poorly written, but I think the prequels are stupid and poorly written, and I still don't advocate any changes in them either.  It doesn't mean I don't enjoy watching the beginning of ROTJ.  I could have enjoyed it more had these issues been addressed before the film was made, but I accept that it is what it is, and that it's too late to do anything about it.  C3PX joked with me when I first posted my video that I'd better be careful not to let my argument influence George into doing something about it, after all.  ^_~

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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C3PX said:

The depths of problems like this are beyond fixing via editing. This is reconceptualize and rewrite level stuff. The problem with this whole fanedit craze is we decide that everything wrong with a twenty year old film can and should be fixed, and the end result is a hacked up film. Just take a look at all the ROTJ fanedits who tried to "fix" the Ewoks in Return of the Jedi by removing them...

Sometimes good enough ought to just be left alone. Fanedits work when you take something crappy in hopes of making it into something bearable (though this begs the question: what is the point?). But fanedits of decent or good movies is something hard for me to get my head around.

There are a lot of creative approaches to the Ewoks than just cutting them out (giving them more realistic facial movements, fleshing out their culture making them more like real alien people than cuddly teddy bears who take down the Empire without prior experience etc).

My personal bag with them is that they never feel real enough to believe in.

The idea of a shorter than average tribal community fighting along side the Rebels being the deciding factor in a ground battle is perfect (it shows that the Empire like it's leader underestimates the power of individuals and over estimates the power of it's technology).

The execution currently doesn't work but that possibly is fixable.

It's certainly worthy of discussion.

But I conceed not on this thread so I'll scuttle back from my little vacation away from the topic.

 

 

 

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No need to say that.  I, for one, always welcome a good discussion.  I mean, this is a forum.  That's what we're supposed to do, right?

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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Gaffer Tape said:

No need to say that.  I, for one, always welcome a good discussion.  I mean, this is a forum.  That's what we're supposed to do, right?

Don't get me wrong I love a good natter especially along these lines but this thread is about the Jabba plan as it currently stands, suggestions about how to change it in a fanedit (and other aspects of ROTJ) are for the ESB/ROTJ Wishlist thread.

And if you want chew the cud about these and other possible tinkerings please pop on over there, it's a lot of fun and creative too.

I just wanted to thank you for putting the video up here so I could add the points you raised there.

 

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After a bit of a break, I'm back!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTjmKwklF-Q

More Batman and Robin goodness... or badness.  Anyway, come on by and stroke my ego!

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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Awesome!

"Every time Warb sighs, an angel falls into a vat of mapel syrup." - Gaffer Tape

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Well, here I am again! Hope you guys like it. I tried a few more complicated things in this one, so I hope it worked out okay. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8ioR0HneF4

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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Whooohooo! More Don Gaffer video reviews!

Dude! You're getting high tech. Nice stuff.

"Every time Warb sighs, an angel falls into a vat of mapel syrup." - Gaffer Tape

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Thank you!

Heh, I had to make use of your vixy link in order to get some stuff off YouTube.  That was my biggest challenge this time around.  Sometimes it would work, sometimes it wouldn't.  Most of the time it would get the video but not the audio, and the audio was the only thing I wanted!  Ultimately, I just had to download the desktop version, and that finally did it, but only after about an hour of screaming at my computer failed.  ^__^

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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Back again.  Like Queen?  Like Batman?  Then maybe you'll like my new video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BGvvbUxDSU

Sadly, despite my best efforts to watch for them, my computer's poor framerate at editing let a few tiny flaws get by, unfortunately.  But hopefully you'll enjoy it.

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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Whoa! Words cannot describe... I like it. Very creative. Makes me feel light I really ought to go out and buy the DVD for the 1943 Batman. Love the opening and closing bits.

"Every time Warb sighs, an angel falls into a vat of mapel syrup." - Gaffer Tape

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Yay!  Thank you.  I've actually gone back and fixed all the tiny frame mess-ups.  I just couldn't watch it without flinching.  I'll be replacing the original (I know, right?) as soon as I can.

But, yeah.  That's my tribute to the '43 serial.  It's a lot of fun.  You should definitely check it out.

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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Here we go.  Fixed it!  This is the new version.  The old version is dead.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weqJJZ3XfMA

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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Noooooooo! Is the old version at least availible on VHS? Or non-anamorphic DVD?

"Every time Warb sighs, an angel falls into a vat of mapel syrup." - Gaffer Tape

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That was just a rough cut.  I'm sorry to all the people who fell in love with a rough cut, but I took a hammer to every single copy in existence... except the one in my personal archives.

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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Dammit! Now my life's ambition will be to break into Gaffertapes personal vault to retrieve that video. I may even make a couple of movies about, one will be a crappy unfinished controversial student film about a guy wanting to kill Gaffer Tape, and the other one will be a cheap low budget film that a big studio takes a liking to and completely rewrites it into a nonsensical typical teen sex comedy, then somehow it will revert more or less to its originally intended state before being released stright to DVD. The future will be disappointing for fans of Gaffer's original upload of his Batman tribute, but they will not suffer it alone.

"Every time Warb sighs, an angel falls into a vat of mapel syrup." - Gaffer Tape

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And I will spend my entire life saying that the version that's out now is what I really intended and assemble an army of yes-men and fanboys to defend me on that, constantly dragging through the mud the fans of the original version.

(And, in all seriousness for anybody who's not paying much attention ie. everybody but me and C3PX, there's absolutely no content difference between the two aside from missing those random frames of shots that accidentally snuck by my keen eye due to frameskipping playback)

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.