JURASSIC PARK 35mm 4K scan + 35mm 4k scans of many trailers Mega Project including the rare Spiderman Twin Towers Teaser, Blade Runner, Pretty In Pink and numerous, some rare, others, see post (WIP - 6.5K scans of JP and trailers complete. Scan data now in hand! Funding of the project is a little past half-way now. Contributor only project for feature. I can't publicly distribute it. Small preservation project.) — Page 2

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fmalover said:

MonkeyLizard10 said:

fmalover said:

My biggest issue with the first 35mm scan of Jurassic Park is how washed out the colours are. This print has more vibrant colours which I approve.

The new sample frames have a subtle yellow tint, so watch out for that.

blindly applied my newest calibration for the scanner (based on comparison to 35mm print for TPM trailer) which I think is getting to be pretty close (at least for the other stock) and they look a touch less yellow now:

Gorgeous!

These are supposed to be lesser quality then the official studio prints remastered the same way. why am I having a hard time believing this. other then the line and actually having film grain which is an improvement the line not at all. this doesn’t look remotely like lower stock.

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As with most such projects, this project gotta be available to contributors only and no general release.

Interesting that a lot of scenes are somewhat closer to the original blu-ray release colors (but still fairly different) than to the 3D or UHD, but then the colors of the cars on that goat shot are much closer to the UHD…
although again keep in mind this is just early beta color calibration and may change somewhat

MonkeyLizard10 said:

As with most such projects, this project gotta be available to contributors only and no general release.

So if I donate some time down the line will it be made available to me?

I just saw the uk blu ray caps a holic shot of this shot is the blown out highlights and it being out of focus on the print the fault of the print or it need to just be adjusted a bit?

https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?go=1&a=0&d1=11848&d2=11849&s1=116773&s2=116787&i=1&l=0

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Fullmetaled said:

I just saw the uk blu ray caps a holic shot of this shot is the blown out highlights and it being out of focus on the print the fault of the print or it need to just be adjusted a bit?

Any detail difference is probably OCN scan (would have a lot more detail) for official releases vs release print scan differences.
The bright canyon edge stuff, not sure yet, have not checked back to the print itself yet. Possibly it is like that on the print, not 100% sure.

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MonkeyLizard10 said:

fmalover said:

MonkeyLizard10 said:

As with most such projects, this project gotta be available to contributors only and no general release.

So if I donate some time down the line will it be made available to me?

So long as the total funding target for costs has not been met yet.
At this point it’s a ways to go still.

I’m afraid that means I’ll miss out, then.

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MonkeyLizard10 said:

A few more samples:

Hi, I’ve noticed that you are cropping some image from the corners. There should be more image on the top and right that is missing from these pics of your scan. Also, there is a sliver more image on the left and bottom of the prints than your pics show. Are the pics representative how your scans will finally look, in terms of framing? The original 35mm “Super Wide open matte” scan that we have, possess a slightly wider and taller image than the pics you show. So, I’m sure the prints have a larger image that you can use. I guess you are cropping out the top and the sides because of the vignetting (rounded corners), but it might be wise to leave them as is. The viewers might wish to see the entire frame without any cropping at the edges, even if slight.

I also noticed that you are cropping the VFX shots a tiny bit at the edges. As far as I have studied, the VFX shots are in varying ratios. Some in 1.75:1, some 1.78:1, some closer to 1.66:1, and two shots in [roughly] 1.89:1 (both closeups of Grant in the Brachiosaurus scene).

MonkeyLizard10 said:

I think it would be best to leave them as is with the full frame and allow the viewer to make their own adjustment if they wish. That’s just my suggestion. Please don’t take it otherwise.

As for your colours, they look really nice. I prefer the yellowish tone of the screenshots as it creates the warmth of the sunlight missing in the previous scans (V1 and V2), and adds to the “tropical island” feel. All the best for your project.

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Thanks for the reply.

My suggestion would be to preserve the full image and release an initial grindhouse-type version for those that want to see the entire image, edge corners included.

For others, you can do a second release with fixed 1.78:1 or 1.85:1, or as you wish.

The widescreen VHS, Laserdisc, DVD, Blu-ray and the UHD are all in 1.85:1. All of them crop out image from the top and the left and right sides, but not the bottom as much. The theatrical 35mm framing was higher and included more headroom. This was done so that the heads of the dinosaurs don’t get cropped out. In the 35mm projections, the dinosaur heads always remain inside the frame, whereas in the Blu-ray (2D and 3D) and the UHD versions, they almost always get cropped out, especially during the VFX shots. The home video editors did not pay attention to the original projected framing, nor the colours. Which is why those releases are revisionist and dull-looking.

Another thing is both the blu-rays and the UHD are pushed towards the left side, cropping the right. This creates problems in composition of the VFX shots. Those shots are centred and right-leaning in the 35mm projected image and the Widescreen Laserdisc/WS VHS, but not in the high-def releases. When the T.rex roars in the Visitor’s centre lobby after killing the raptor, she is pushed towards the extreme right in the blu-ray and the UHD. This creates the unintended side effect of leaving a large negative space on the left side, while cropping out the right edge, which if retained, would have otherwise balanced the composition.

The projected framing shows more image on the right and less on the left because the left side is covered by the soundtrack. The film gate masks the soundtrack at the left edge, which is why you see less on that side, but the right is mostly left uncropped because there is no soundtrack to cover and the aperture already masks the image to the intended widescreen shape.

The laserdisc is the most balanced framing because it includes almost the entire width of the 35mm frame and is also right-leaning, like the 35mm.

So, that should be the reference while planning a restoration.

Papai2013 said:

Thanks for the reply.

My suggestion would be to preserve the full image and release an initial grindhouse-type version for those that want to see the entire image, edge corners included.

Possibly I could toss out a copy like that directly from Resolve, it wouldn’t have super correct colors though. I’ll see, it would take a fair amount of time to carry out since this is not ProRes based.

For others, you can do a second release with fixed 1.78:1 or 1.85:1, or as you wish.

The widescreen VHS, Laserdisc, DVD, Blu-ray and the UHD are all in 1.85:1. All of them crop out image from the top and the left and right sides, but not the bottom as much. The theatrical 35mm framing was higher and included more headroom. This was done so that the heads of the dinosaurs don’t get cropped out. In the 35mm projections, the dinosaur heads always remain inside the frame, whereas in the Blu-ray (2D and 3D) and the UHD versions, they almost always get cropped out, especially during the VFX shots. The home video editors did not pay attention to the original projected framing, nor the colours. Which is why those releases are revisionist and dull-looking.

Another thing is both the blu-rays and the UHD are pushed towards the left side, cropping the right. This creates problems in composition of the VFX shots. Those shots are centred and right-leaning in the 35mm projected image and the Widescreen Laserdisc/WS VHS, but not in the high-def releases. When the T.rex roars in the Visitor’s centre lobby after killing the raptor, she is pushed towards the extreme right in the blu-ray and the UHD. This creates the unintended side effect of leaving a large negative space on the left side, while cropping out the right edge, which if retained, would have otherwise balanced the composition.

The projected framing shows more image on the right and less on the left because the left side is covered by the soundtrack. The film gate masks the soundtrack at the left edge, which is why you see less on that side, but the right is mostly left uncropped because there is no soundtrack to cover and the aperture already masks the image to the intended widescreen shape.

The laserdisc is the most balanced framing because it includes almost the entire width of the 35mm frame and is also right-leaning, like the 35mm.

So, that should be the reference while planning a restoration.

Thanks, this stuff is very helpful! I will keep that in mind when I do the cropping.

MonkeyLizard10 said:

Papai2013 said:

Thanks for the reply.

My suggestion would be to preserve the full image and release an initial grindhouse-type version for those that want to see the entire image, edge corners included.

Possibly I could toss out a copy like that directly from Resolve, it wouldn’t have super correct colors though. I’ll see, it would take a fair amount of time to carry out since this is not ProRes based.

For others, you can do a second release with fixed 1.78:1 or 1.85:1, or as you wish.

The widescreen VHS, Laserdisc, DVD, Blu-ray and the UHD are all in 1.85:1. All of them crop out image from the top and the left and right sides, but not the bottom as much. The theatrical 35mm framing was higher and included more headroom. This was done so that the heads of the dinosaurs don’t get cropped out. In the 35mm projections, the dinosaur heads always remain inside the frame, whereas in the Blu-ray (2D and 3D) and the UHD versions, they almost always get cropped out, especially during the VFX shots. The home video editors did not pay attention to the original projected framing, nor the colours. Which is why those releases are revisionist and dull-looking.

Another thing is both the blu-rays and the UHD are pushed towards the left side, cropping the right. This creates problems in composition of the VFX shots. Those shots are centred and right-leaning in the 35mm projected image and the Widescreen Laserdisc/WS VHS, but not in the high-def releases. When the T.rex roars in the Visitor’s centre lobby after killing the raptor, she is pushed towards the extreme right in the blu-ray and the UHD. This creates the unintended side effect of leaving a large negative space on the left side, while cropping out the right edge, which if retained, would have otherwise balanced the composition.

The projected framing shows more image on the right and less on the left because the left side is covered by the soundtrack. The film gate masks the soundtrack at the left edge, which is why you see less on that side, but the right is mostly left uncropped because there is no soundtrack to cover and the aperture already masks the image to the intended widescreen shape.

The laserdisc is the most balanced framing because it includes almost the entire width of the 35mm frame and is also right-leaning, like the 35mm.

So, that should be the reference while planning a restoration.

Thanks, this stuff is very helpful! I will keep that in mind when I do the cropping.

You are welcome. Over two decades, I have inspected each and every frame of Jurassic Park’s home video iterations, having owned several copies across formats + the different 35mm releases. This has helped me learn a thing or two about the original framing and the colours before they were ruined by the DVD, Blu-ray[s] and the UHD. Hope I don’t sound like I am bragging too much, ha ha. That certainly wasn’t my intention.

Another suggestion I’d give is, try and erase the yellow scratch line at the right edge with Topaz or other software before cropping, if possible. It appears on some, if not all the frames. Such noticeable scratch lines harm the viewing experience.

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LOL at the screenshot of Kirsten Dunst.

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