Gaffer Tape said:
twooffour said:
Gaffer Tape said:
Yeah, geez, Frink. Haven't you learned by now that if you or anybody or anything or any idea ever has any kind of conflict or problem or disagreement with twooffour, the problem is never him, it's you. Always, always, always, always you. Never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever him. Geez, it's SO OBVIOUS!
Wherever you got that idea from, Gaff.
Speaking of unintentional irony (once more, duh), here's a question:
You're having a debate with somebody, and your opponent bluntly tells you that you're wrong.
Which is the more pleasant thought, that he just happens to treat you this way because of the specifics of the discussion, or that he treats everyone like this, independent of the specifics, at all times?
Which one rather conveniently excludes the possibility (in your mind) that the "problem" may, at least partially, be on your part?
Yep, you're right. It is "easier" to believe the person is just always like that, regardless of the situation. But considering that pretty much everyone who has weighed in in this thread has come to the exact same conclusion, independently, through individual conversations with you... doesn't that tend to make you wonder if maybe, just maybe, that at least some of the problem lies with you? Or are you the one who would rather take the more pleasant thought?
Well, some fault certainly lies with me, as I often tend to play up the "dismissive jerk" schtick on purpose (in tone, not in content).
It's a bit more fun to put down a post in this manner, rather than "I respect your opinion, but here's mine" style. Having that said, I don't do that if I think there is a legitimate point (or opinion) to it.
I also tend to "get involved" in arguments against something stupid (in my mind, but then again, who else's) more often, because if I see people discuss something that's clearly two heads above me, I usually tend to shut up and listen.
Other than that, no, I'm afraid no.
I can certainly suspect something to be wrong with myself, if 5 people at the same time tell me that I'm being way too arrogant.
But a suspicion has to stand up to scrutiny, and that's where it fails. It's all about the specifics.
See, when you're arguing with someone, there are some rather reliable indicators for having the high ground (in the given situation). Things like:
-the other dude declaring to not read, or only skip, your posts (as CP did).
-the other dude blatantly ignoring, or going over something you've written (more than once, even)
-the other dude not getting some logical conclusion, statement, or irony. You have to be able to explain how. And he unable to retort.
-the other dude asking you to explain something that you've explained to him 5 times on the same page.
-the other dude not responding to anything you say, but rather commenting your post with some worthless remark.
So imagine you're in a forum, having some heated discussion against a handful of complete idiots (I mean, that's in that imaginary scenario; not decent people like here), employing each example from the list above.
You point them out, repeatedly, and consistently, but you can't get through to them.
Would YOU start doubting your sanity, and concede being a pompous jerk among wisemen, just because they all agree?
Now, you might say this is a scenario straight from Idiocracy, and can't possible happen in real life.
Okay, I'll make this real easy for you, then: IMAGINE BEING ON THEFORCE.NET. Need I say more?
Let's see, CP repeatedly admitted to be just trolling me for more "hilarious quotes", I'm called a pompous ass while CP gets away with doing it first (page 1 of this thread), Frink says stuff like "I stopped reading after you said you liked the Jabba scene" and then quotes my response as an example of my "bad attitude", and RedFive wants to accuse me of confusing fact with opinion without providing a single example.
Then I apparently "argue against the dictionary" by quoting the dictionary.
With you, I think I found it pretty funny how you thought I was insisting on those Asian accents being "offensive", while all I was saying is that they were hard to do without "catching one's eye", as opposed to everyone talking the audience's language. Among other things.
So what am I supposed to think when someone just can't be bothered to look at my post, and then gets offended when I point that out?
Give me ONE reason to think it's somehow all on me. Just ONE.