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twooffour said:

Gaffer Tape said:

Yeah, geez, Frink.  Haven't you learned by now that if you or anybody or anything or any idea ever has any kind of conflict or problem or disagreement with twooffour, the problem is never him, it's you.  Always, always, always, always you.  Never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever him.  Geez, it's SO OBVIOUS! 

I'M STILL TRYING TO WIN THE INTERNET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

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TV's Frink said:

Oh man, now I realize my sarcasm joke fail too!  I hate myself even more!!!1!!

Hey, if a few laughs at your temporary density are enough for you to seek refuge in over-defensive (and completely toothless) sarcasm, then whatever floats your boat.

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twooffour said:

TV's Frink said:

Oh man, now I realize my sarcasm joke fail too!  I hate myself even more!!!1!!

Hey, if a few laughs at your temporary density are enough for you to seek refuge in over-defensive (and completely toothless) sarcasm, then whatever floats your boat.

Zaboo says:

http://www.blogcdn.com/wow.joystiq.com/media/2009/01/theguildzaboonoodles.jpg

Bookmark'd.

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TV's Frink said:

twooffour said:

Gaffer Tape said:

Yeah, geez, Frink.  Haven't you learned by now that if you or anybody or anything or any idea ever has any kind of conflict or problem or disagreement with twooffour, the problem is never him, it's you.  Always, always, always, always you.  Never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever him.  Geez, it's SO OBVIOUS! 

I'M STILL TRYING TO WIN THE INTERNET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Was that supposed to be somehow biting? Sharp? Humorous?

Oh, like, I'm now sooo ashamed for replying to this laughable accusation in such a way, I now see I shouldn't try to win the internet so much, oh no i hate myself so much crycrycrycry...
I mean, whatever.

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twooffour said:

TV's Frink said:

twooffour said:

Gaffer Tape said:

Yeah, geez, Frink.  Haven't you learned by now that if you or anybody or anything or any idea ever has any kind of conflict or problem or disagreement with twooffour, the problem is never him, it's you.  Always, always, always, always you.  Never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever him.  Geez, it's SO OBVIOUS! 

I'M STILL TRYING TO WIN THE INTERNET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

STILL TRYING!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

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The events depicted here are entirely imaginary.

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TV's Frink said:

I POST BORING, UNFUNNY COMMENTS BECAUSE I CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING ELSE. BUT I THINK I'M SO BITING AND FUNNY!!1

So boring.

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twooffour said:



TV's Frink said:

I POST BORING, UNFUNNY COMMENTS BECAUSE I CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING ELSE. BUT I THINK I'M SO BITING AND FUNNY!!1


STILL!!!!

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twooffour said:

Gaffer Tape said:

Yeah, geez, Frink.  Haven't you learned by now that if you or anybody or anything or any idea ever has any kind of conflict or problem or disagreement with twooffour, the problem is never him, it's you.  Always, always, always, always you.  Never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever him.  Geez, it's SO OBVIOUS! 

Wherever you got that idea from, Gaff.

Speaking of unintentional irony (once more, duh), here's a question:
You're having a debate with somebody, and your opponent bluntly tells you that you're wrong.
Which is the more pleasant thought, that he just happens to treat you this way because of the specifics of the discussion, or that he treats everyone like this, independent of the specifics, at all times?

Which one rather conveniently excludes the possibility (in your mind) that the "problem" may, at least partially, be on your part?

Yep, you're right.  It is "easier" to believe the person is just always like that, regardless of the situation.  But considering that pretty much everyone who has weighed in in this thread has come to the exact same conclusion, independently, through individual conversations with you... doesn't that tend to make you wonder if maybe, just maybe, that at least some of the problem lies with you?  Or are you the one who would rather take the more pleasant thought?

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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Gaffer Tape said:

twooffour said:

Gaffer Tape said:

Yeah, geez, Frink.  Haven't you learned by now that if you or anybody or anything or any idea ever has any kind of conflict or problem or disagreement with twooffour, the problem is never him, it's you.  Always, always, always, always you.  Never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever him.  Geez, it's SO OBVIOUS! 

Wherever you got that idea from, Gaff.

Speaking of unintentional irony (once more, duh), here's a question:
You're having a debate with somebody, and your opponent bluntly tells you that you're wrong.
Which is the more pleasant thought, that he just happens to treat you this way because of the specifics of the discussion, or that he treats everyone like this, independent of the specifics, at all times?

Which one rather conveniently excludes the possibility (in your mind) that the "problem" may, at least partially, be on your part?

Yep, you're right.  It is "easier" to believe the person is just always like that, regardless of the situation.  But considering that pretty much everyone who has weighed in in this thread has come to the exact same conclusion, independently, through individual conversations with you... doesn't that tend to make you wonder if maybe, just maybe, that at least some of the problem lies with you?  Or are you the one who would rather take the more pleasant thought?

Well, some fault certainly lies with me, as I often tend to play up the "dismissive jerk" schtick on purpose (in tone, not in content).
It's a bit more fun to put down a post in this manner, rather than "I respect your opinion, but here's mine" style. Having that said, I don't do that if I think there is a legitimate point (or opinion) to it.

I also tend to "get involved" in arguments against something stupid (in my mind, but then again, who else's) more often, because if I see people discuss something that's clearly two heads above me, I usually tend to shut up and listen.


Other than that, no, I'm afraid no.
I can certainly suspect something to be wrong with myself, if 5 people at the same time tell me that I'm being way too arrogant.
But a suspicion has to stand up to scrutiny, and that's where it fails. It's all about the specifics.


See, when you're arguing with someone, there are some rather reliable indicators for having the high ground (in the given situation). Things like:
-the other dude declaring to not read, or only skip, your posts (as CP did).
-the other dude blatantly ignoring, or going over something you've written (more than once, even)
-the other dude not getting some logical conclusion, statement, or irony. You have to be able to explain how. And he unable to retort.
-the other dude asking you to explain something that you've explained to him 5 times on the same page.
-the other dude not responding to anything you say, but rather commenting your post with some worthless remark.

So imagine you're in a forum, having some heated discussion against a handful of complete idiots (I mean, that's in that imaginary scenario; not decent people like here), employing each example from the list above.
You point them out, repeatedly, and consistently, but you can't get through to them.
Would YOU start doubting your sanity, and concede being a pompous jerk among wisemen, just because they all agree?



Now, you might say this is a scenario straight from Idiocracy, and can't possible happen in real life.
Okay, I'll make this real easy for you, then: IMAGINE BEING ON THEFORCE.NET. Need I say more?

Let's see, CP repeatedly admitted to be just trolling me for more "hilarious quotes", I'm called a pompous ass while CP gets away with doing it first (page 1 of this thread), Frink says stuff like "I stopped reading after you said you liked the Jabba scene" and then quotes my response as an example of my "bad attitude", and RedFive wants to accuse me of confusing fact with opinion without providing a single example.
Then I apparently "argue against the dictionary" by quoting the dictionary.

With you, I think I found it pretty funny how you thought I was insisting on those Asian accents being "offensive", while all I was saying is that they were hard to do without "catching one's eye", as opposed to everyone talking the audience's language. Among other things.
So what am I supposed to think when someone just can't be bothered to look at my post, and then gets offended when I point that out?



Give me ONE reason to think it's somehow all on me. Just ONE.

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Ziggy Stardust said:

Dude, shut up.

That's one.

This style of posting is the number one reason why boards have an ignore function.
I like the irony of this.

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I also like how this single post is probably much "ruder" than anything I've ever posted on this board. (Aside from calling Moth3r a "dunce". Except even that wasn't as bad. Except I didn't even call him a dunce, I just asked whether I could say the word. Except of course with the implication that he was one. But that was then.)

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Ok, it's time for everyone reading this thread to choose a side. Is the problem twooffour, or everyone else? NO FENCE SITTING.

I will keep score.

I vote for twooffour.

CURRENT SCORE:

twooffour - 1 (Frink)
everyone else - 0

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TV's Frink said:

Ok, it's time for everyone reading this thread to choose a side. Is the problem twooffour, or everyone else? NO FENCE SITTING.

I will keep score.

I vote for twooffour.

CURRENT SCORE:

twooffour - 1 (Frink)
everyone else - 0

Truth isn't decided by popular voting, but feel free if that makes you feel better.


EDIT: I see how now you're obviously taking this nonsense into other threads where I'm posting, as well.
So that would be the first vote, and it's already as self-contradictory and hypocritical as it possible gets.

But yea, whatever floats your boat.

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twooffour said:

Truth isn't decided by popular voting, but feel free if that makes you feel better.
I think that was a vote for "everyone else."

CURRENT SCORE:

twooffour - 1 (Frink)
everyone else - 1 (twooffour)

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Okay, I do want to start out by saying that twooffour's last post in the politics thread was actually on-topic, relatively well-constructed, and wasn't the least bit insulting, condescending, or arrogant.  I have no problem calling him out when it's necessary, but there's really no reason to go after his posts when he's actually behaving like a decent poster.  In my opinion, it just devalues the criticisms that he actually deserves.

But all that said, I have to cast my ballot for twooffour.

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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Gaffer Tape said:


I have no problem calling him out when it's necessary, but there's really no reason to go after his posts when he's actually behaving like a decent poster.  In my opinion, it just devalues the criticisms that he actually deserves.
Yeah, that's fair. Post deleted.

CURRENT SCORE

twooffour: 2 (Frink, Gaffer)
Everyone else: 1 (twooffour)

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Gaffer Tape said:

Okay, I do want to start out by saying that twooffour's last post in the politics thread was actually on-topic, relatively well-constructed, and wasn't the least bit insulting, condescending, or arrogant.  I have no problem calling him out when it's necessary, but there's really no reason to go after his posts when he's actually behaving like a decent poster.  In my opinion, it just devalues the criticisms that he actually deserves.

But all that said, I have to cast my ballot for twooffour.

Thanks for pointing out the obvious, but as it seems, I've been talking to a brickwall in my last response to you.

Why did you even ask?
I challenged you to provide a REASON for me to think that I "deserve" this criticism, and what do I get? Some flabby "vote". Anyone can vote, much fewer can justify their votes.


So basically, as far as I'm concerned at this stage, all your "criticisms" are just hot air and entirely worthless, and I have no reason to take any of them seriously.

Thanks for providing the second worthless vote, after the first one :D

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CURRENT SCORE

twooffour: 3 (Frink, Gaffer, Ziggy)
Everyone else: 1 (twooffour)

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EDIT: Oops, sorry. Left to go check on laundry and came back to find a cat snuggled up on my keyboard and a newly made post on the screen.