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Interview with LucasArts President: "Right now there is no story in games."

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Hey, I just stumbled across this interview and would like to know what you guys think about it:
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LucasArts Interview [Source: boomtown.net]
In this exclusive interview, we discuss the future of gaming with LucasArts President Jim Ward.


Jim Ward is President of LucasArts and Vice President of Marketing and Distribution at Lucasfilm. He began his career in advertising and was responsible for the promotion of Apple's Powerbook. Now heading LucasArts, he's responsible for bringing such franchises as Star Wars and Indiana Jones to the gaming public. In this exclusive interview, we ask Ward how LucasArts aims to succeed in the current market, where the future of gaming lies and how the company views the next generation of consoles.


Coming from the movie industry, you must be pretty happy about what the new gaming consoles can do graphics-wise?

I'm more excited about what the next generation consoles allow us to do in what we are focused on which is revolutionizing the ideas of storytelling and character development. With the raw power and capacity that those consoles have, that will allow us to do our job better.


Is there still room for a revolution?

Oh, absolutely. Right now there is no story in games. Gaming right now is about button management, basically. Take for instance Grand Theft Auto, a great game, I love it and play it, a fantastic game. But the story of that is just simply a broad context, you drive around some places and shoot people. But there is no real compelling story telling, very rarely you see this in good games.

In Half-Life, there was an attempt. But we need to infuse story into those games and make them compelling because every kind of entertainment, if it's a movie, a play, whatever it is, is all based on story and characters.

We need to figure out ways in which to make the story compelling in terms of humour and suspense. So that maybe whatever I'm wearing has an impact on that storyline and ripples through and changes on an infinite branching base what the story meant to be.

And then on the character side, tell me the last character you played that you fell in love with. That happens very rarely, right? It's not like going to a movie. So we have to change that and there are a couple of levels to that. One is on a more mechanical level, where the character has to, through AI, feel real. And the other is a more Turing level AI, so if you interact with a character, they ARE real. This is the Holy Grail and we've got to achieve that. The next generation platforms will help us along the way.


Isn't it much more difficult to tell a story in a game than in a movie because you have to tell an infinite number of stories in a game?

Absolutely, but that doesn't mean it cannot be done. There are some noble attempts. But that's the question, what does story mean in interactive games? We have to figure that out. And that's why we take this to be an art form and make it even more compelling and more engaging. That doesn't mean to reduce gameplay or action.

But my gosh, people want to have a great story, people want to play a game because that character is so fun to be around. Today we have NPCs that say five words and then they are gone - as the gamer you don't relate to that, you don't develop a relation to them. [...]
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Oh ok, games have no story. That's pretty freaking ironic, since Lucasarts cancelled the only games that actually HAD good stories and characters, Lucasarts' adventure games such as Sam & Max 2 and Full Throtle 2, so they can focus only on producing SW-related crappy games.

He thinks that GTA and Half Life have no story? Uh is he paying attention to those games? Does his TV/PC have sound? Is he playing it with his EYES OPEN?
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This is what you get when you let stupid people speak.
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What an idiot!

THIS MAKES ME MAD!

WHO IS THIS GUY!?!?! NO STORY!?! HAS THIS GUY EVER FREAKING PLAYED KOTOR!?!

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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
What an idiot!

THIS MAKES ME MAD!

WHO IS THIS GUY!?!?! NO STORY!?! HAS THIS GUY EVER FREAKING PLAYED KOTOR!?!



This guy has got his head WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY up his ass.

Then again, this dude also explains why KOTOR 2 was such a giant fuck up.
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The appearence of a story does not make it a good, deep one. I've played GTA, and if it was a movie...I'd walk out. The gameplay is great, but the dialogue, and storyline is boring as all get out.

I'm sure there are games out there with good storylines, but I haven't really played one in awhile.
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Which GTA? San Andreas and Vice City both have very complex stories.

As for other games with humorouss, good, and/or complex stories:

Final Fantasy 7
Final Fantasy X
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
Metroid Fusion
Metroid Prime
Halo Series
Paper Mario 2
Metal Gear Solid series (or so I've heard)
The Legend of Zelda series
KoToR
Jade Empire
Resident Evil 1-3
Resident Evil 4
Golden Sun (And the Lost Age)
Mario and Luigi, Supestar Saga
Freedom Force Series (PC)
Starcraft
Warcraft Series


I'm sure I missed a bunch. Saying there is no story factor in videogames is so ridiculous, especially from the president of the company that published Knights of the Friggin' Old Republic, which has one of the BEST video game plot twists EVER.

If not THE best.

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Wasn't Jim Ward our friend at Lucasfilm that said that the green lightsaber in the 2004 ed. of SW was a "deliberate creative decision"?

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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
Which GTA? San Andreas and Vice City both have very complex stories.

As for other games with humorouss, good, and/or complex stories:

Final Fantasy 7
Final Fantasy X
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
Metroid Fusion
Metroid Prime
Halo Series
Paper Mario 2
Metal Gear Solid series (or so I've heard)
The Legend of Zelda series
KoToR
Jade Empire
Resident Evil 1-3
Resident Evil 4
Golden Sun (And the Lost Age)
Mario and Luigi, Supestar Saga
Freedom Force Series (PC)
Starcraft
Warcraft Series


I'm sure I missed a bunch. Saying there is no story factor in videogames is so ridiculous, especially from the president of the company that published Knights of the Friggin' Old Republic, which has one of the BEST video game plot twists EVER.

If not THE best.



Alot of those games you named are over 5 years old. "Right now there is no story in games." Vice City had a pretty good storyline, but really it was just a rehash of the Scarface and a couple other 80's movies/tv shows. SA isn't very good, plot wise, at all.
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There's no need to argue.

I'm just saying the point he was making is that (paraphrasing) "Right now games don't tell stories well, but new tech will help us tell them better."

That's bull crap. Games are telling stories now better than they ever have, and it's been on an upward drive ever since 1997.

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Originally posted by: Hardcore Legend
The appearence of a story does not make it a good, deep one. I've played GTA, and if it was a movie...I'd walk out. The gameplay is great, but the dialogue, and storyline is boring as all get out.

I'm sure there are games out there with good storylines, but I haven't really played one in awhile.



Well GTA3 told a more personal story of betrayal/revenge.

Vice City was a slick good catchy story with a twist.

San Andreas sucked ass and to me never captured the heart of the first two games.
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At least the Main Character in San Andreas is a semi-decent person.

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This guy is stupid, there are plenty of game with good stories. The final fantasy series comes to mind, metal gear, zelda and knights of the old republic. Just because games are betting better at becoming more like interactive movies does'nt mean there has to be no story. I think this guy at lucasarts must just have no story on the brain because the prequels were like a video game with no story.

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