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Originally posted by: Mr Bungle
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I have never read the novel, was Anakins turn longer and different, I know the book was much more intense than the movie

It would have been a good idea for a 3 hr Star Wars, (but would Lucas want it too run that long) as this was the most important film in the prequel maybe saga as it covered Anakins descent and turn in to evil (which was considered weak by some- people) and the other important points such as The Rebellion scenes etc


It would have been interesting to see it as an "R" (i assume your highest rating) with the scenes but would the key SW audience be unable to attend(I am not to sure on the American Rating System) and it would definatly play on Lucas/Lucasfim mind, I know they had problems with the U.K censors over AOTC they had problems with a headbutt(Jango and Obi Wan) and were offered it uncut at a higher rating, but took the slightly lower rating with the headbutt cut out


Yeah, the book sets up Anakins turn earlier and it therefore seems like he gets to think about things for a while. Palp and him have more discussions than the movie. Hell, the way those conversations went, I was almost on Palpatines side. Intense....maybe, but more believable yes.

A 3 hour star wars is OK in my book. An R-rated SW is ok with me too. He should make a directors cut (I guess he had the final say anyways but...whatever) that is catered toward older audiences just for the sake of seeing it a different way.....who knows, most of you'd like it I'm sure. Yes, R is our highest rating in the US that gets any sort of audience. NC-17 is higher but thats basically commercial suicide and rarle gets to a theater. Most theaters I know block people under 17 from going to R movies (without a parent), especially popular ones so yes, the target audience woulda been screwed.

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"Even Episode III, with the gruesome immolation of Anakin--that fits pretty well with the old Aesop's fables and Grimm's fairytales sort of stuff that had darkness and violence in it."

But those stories, while intended for children, weren't intended to entertain them. They were told to children to scare them - morality lessons and so forth. Most of the versions we now know today are quite sanitized versions of the originals, or have lost the original meaning. Some other examples that come to mind are the "Ring around the rosie" chant that apparently refers to the plague, and "Rock-a-bye Baby", where the cradle falls to the ground. This last one is funny, because as pretty as it sounds when sung to a child, it's not the kind of ending a parent would wish on their child.

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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They were told to children to scare them - morality lessons and so forth.


Very true, but I don't see how this doesn't also apply to Star Wars. Lucas said they were not only entertainments, but lessons for kids, the kind of stark black and white type of morality plays that kids weren't getting then, with everything noirish and in shades of gray. I think kids SHOULD be scared that the kid they identified with (Anakin) ended up burning up next to a lava river--that's what happens to bad kids who ignore their teachers and get impatient. Those tales were told to scare children, yes, but they were also told to entertain as well. It wasn't exclusive--the learning sticks better if you entertain them. Grimm and Aesop knew that very well.

But yeah, I've always thought Rock-A-Bye-Baby was sort of macabre, but then again, that's the sort of neurotic thing only adults really worry about. Kids seem to handle those kinds of suggested horrors a lot better than adults do.

But R-Rated Star Wars is an oxymoron, to me.
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Not that I disagree with you, but the original Grimm stories were even worse depictions than "I think kids SHOULD be scared that the kid they identified with (Anakin) ended up burning up next to a lava river--that's what happens to bad kids who ignore their teachers and get impatient.", which, in itself, is quite an extreme example of a possible consequence of not paying attention to one's teacher (who did, BTW, admit he had failed Anakin, but I digress. ) If you ever get a chance to read them, it's almost appalling what these kids were being told back in the day. Not that the message was bad, but the delivery was very startling. There's a reason why they were called the "Brothers Grimm. I wonder which versions the new movie chose to tell.

And actually, I always wondered about Rock-a-bye baby even before I had kids (or even a girlfriend.) That being said, I saw "A Beautiful Mind" after my daughter was born, and I remember finding myself almost jumping out of my seat when they showed the baby almost submerged in the bathtub. I don't think my reaction would have been nearly as strong had I not been a father.

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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I had no clue what a beautiful mind was about when I watched it - Now that was one helluva twist (yes, I know it's a true story, but it was so well done. I thought the movie ws actually about a clever guy who was hired by the CIA as a codebreaker until that twist hit me in the face).

But anyway, yeah, Star Wars 3...Meh. It's the best of a bad bunch, but I'm not buying the DVD unless they bring out a 6 movie saga boxset including the theatrical cuts of the OT, then I will buy it. Otherwise, I just can't justify it - it's not like I'm gonna watch it, so why buy it?

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HaHa. Yeah, that too. Nah, like I said, I'll buy the box set when it comes out (which it will).

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I will go ahead and buy ROTS, just to complete my PT set, but it will likely go unwatched.

The only times I watched TPM and AOTC were for the sake of research - discussions on TF.n or some such.

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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Originally posted by: MeBeJedi
I will go ahead and buy ROTS, just to complete my PT set, but it will likely go unwatched.

The only times I watched TPM and AOTC were for the sake of research - discussions on TF.n or some such.

HahahAH - That says it all. You have no desire to watch these movies as entertainment.

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Hey, I initially made the effort to watch them, and simply don't find them as enjoyable enough to rewatch as the OT.

Besides, ROTS was decently entertaining after Grevious died.

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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Yeah, I'll be buying this too when it comes out. And I'll watch it occasionally with the rest of the PT. It is, however, the last Star Wars movie I'm buying (since there should be no more new ones), so no more crappy rehashes or special editions or magic CG Yodas.

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C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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in truth you guys should boycott anything by lucas since he hasnt released the o-ot. have you guys forgotten that?
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I've not forgotten anything. You presume such an act would make any kind of difference - either to us or to Lucas.

I can cause more of an effect continuing my work on the X0 project. That's a name you should remember.

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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It doesnt matter to George if all of us here on O.T.com didnt buy Sith or any S.W product ever again


but my own little protest does extend to not buying any future version of the Classic Trilogy other than O.O.T including the proposed six film box-set, not that George is worried, but least I will have the Classic Trilogy in my collection the way I want to see it and not in a version I will not like and believe was not necessary, and I will have cash for other things, but that protest does not extend to Revenge of the Sith.....
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Although I doubt you'd buy any re-releases of Sith once you own this, right?

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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"so youve given up in other words"

No, you're a moron, in other words. I've spent years and thousands of dollars putting the OT on DVD. Hardly "giving up", as you would like to believe.

You go right on ahead pretending to have some higher moral ground, but not buying ROTS hardly counts as activisim, in comparison to what I and many others on these boards have done.

And in case you're wondering (or perhaps you've already made up your mind in regards to this as well), but I have not bought the CT on DVD, nor do I ever intend to.

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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No, i wont need another version of Sith, I probably am gonna get Clone Wars vol 2 for the collection(I hated the first but get it for the collection) I dont really buy much else, never bought an E.U book ever, and I am not gonna renew my Hyperspace subscription(now Sith has been completed) the only thing I can think of SW im gonna buy is the miniture figure and magazine collection here in the U.K and the Star Wars poster book at the moment.and I will buy the T.V series DVDs in the very distant future,
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"and I will buy the T.V series DVDs in the very distant future,"

Regardless of the quality? (Just asking)

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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I have to be honest just complete my own personal little SW collection,

I will also be honest it was the only reason I bought things like The Holiday Special The Clone Wars Vol 1(I had no real interest it because it was Animation but brought it because it was SW and hated it) and the Ewok Adventures(found very cheap),
though the how good the TV series is will probably depend on how much I pay if it is good I will pay the full price, but if its crap I will be in no hurry and prepared to wait for a suitable cheap price
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Bungle, what Figurine magazine is that then? Is it similar to the one Marvel have out at the moment? If so, I'm gonna run to the shop right now because those Marvel figures are sweet.

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