Info: my Star Wars Episode III - Russian TC — Page 2

Author: Video Collector
Time: 19-Jun-2015 3:16 PM
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towne32 said:

Looks decent! Is it... available anywhere?

So the audio is english, are there hard russian subs over it?

AFAIK its no longer "out there". I just hung onto it as bootlegs have a certain historical significance and I try to keep them for posterity. I'm sure one of the other pack rats on here will have the full DVD files stored away somewhere. None, I'm looking at you :-)

There are no russian subs, but I don't know if this was originally dubbed in Russian and just had its audio replaced from a different source.

The end credits are all English too.

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Author: jaksic
Time: 20-Jun-2015 9:48 AM
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Yeah thats it Thanks! (The screenshots) I'll keep this forever! Got the disc for it and i uploaded it on to my computer for backup! Do you have any other VCD's for any other movies?

Author: towne32
Time: 20-Jun-2015 10:10 AM
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jaksic, please check your PM inbox on a completely unrelated note. :)

Author: kuul7
Time: 29-Jun-2015 12:36 PM
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has someone a screener/workprint of revenge on his pc and can upload or seed it? looking for years for this!

thanks

Author: towne32
Time: 2-Jul-2015 7:22 AM (Edited)
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Anyone else have it?

Author: satanika
Time: 2-Jul-2015 2:24 PM
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Interested parties can PM me and I will try to fill your Russian telecine needs.

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Author: towne32
Time: 2-Jul-2015 8:19 PM (Edited)
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Interestingly, the Russian TC is lacking the single change said to have occurred between the theatrical and DVD release (mentioned here: http://www.dvdactive.com/editorial/articles/star-wars-the-changes-part-four.html?post_id=79063&action=report ). This could be because this is a workprint. Or it could be due to misinformation/misremembering the theatrical release.

It is also possible that the wipe was added fairly late in the editing process and they accidentally reverted to the earlier version for the DVD release. But if this was first introduced for the Blu-ray, the DVD/HDTV is 100% identical to the theatrical release. Not only that, but it's the only case where this is true for the six Star Wars films, GOUT aside.

edit: the entire order of shots may actually be different. Don't have the DVD on hand.

Author: kuul7
Time: 5-Jul-2015 12:22 PM
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??? The Wipe IS there in both the workprint and the russian tc!!! and wheter the dvd (wipe is missing) nor the bluray (wipe is now in but there are clones talking on utapau and there are things on the wookierooftops) are the theatrical cut...

Author: Jetrell Fo
Time: 5-Jul-2015 1:46 PM
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Is there a visual quality difference between the Russian TC and the Workprint?

I have the workprint so maybe I need to check out this Russian TC.

Author: Video Collector
Time: 11-Jul-2015 5:35 AM
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I've just compared Satanika's files to the ones I have.

We both have the film split into two AVIs which fit on a CD-R. They both have the same resolution and frame rate.

When comparing the two versions side by side, Satanika's is quite a bit sharper. Satanika's version seems to have better compression with less macroblocking too.

The files are split differently, but cut off the end credits in the same place.

These are obviously different encodes from the same source.

Here are a few screengrabs. Mine top, Satanika's bottom:

The very last frame of both sources:

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Author: pittrek
Time: 11-Jul-2015 7:25 AM
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A dumb question - is this in any way different than the official release? I thrashed my copy 10 years ago because I thought it's the same as the official DVD except the wipe

Author: John Doom
Time: 11-Jul-2015 9:27 AM (Edited)
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Yep: this is supposed to be the theatrical version. Just minor differences, though.

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Author: jaksic
Time: 11-Jul-2015 9:32 AM
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They both look great! Both has slightly colour changes! Thanks for photos!

Author: towne32
Time: 11-Jul-2015 11:24 AM
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kuul7 said:

??? The Wipe IS there in both the workprint and the russian tc!!! and wheter the dvd (wipe is missing) nor the bluray (wipe is now in but there are clones talking on utapau and there are things on the wookierooftops) are the theatrical cut...

Strange. Perhaps I was looking at the wrong shot?

Author: jaksic
Time: 12-Jul-2015 9:30 PM
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So for my first time watch of Episode III should I watch the Russian TC or the Blu - Ray? I know I'm watching the TC on a 42 inch so quality won't be the best! But I heard the Blu - Ray changes a lot of thing!

Please let me know which one is better!

Author: towne32
Time: 12-Jul-2015 11:50 PM
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Definitely the Blu-ray for III. They've changed essentially nothing in this film, compared to the other Star Wars movies. I've seen that film on lists of "reference quality" blu-ray discs. I don't know how to qualify such a thing, and my own setup isn't good enough for something like that to matter. But the picture quality is good and they haven't messed with the color/plot/cgi/etc this time. When someone buys the "Complete Saga", this is probably the only disc they're getting that's decent. Assuming they don't hate the film. :)

Author: jaksic
Time: 13-Jul-2015 6:28 AM
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Thanks! I was going to go with the TC since its the theatrical but ah well i guess its the blu ray!

Author: Skippy The Jedi Droid
Time: 13-Jul-2015 3:22 PM (Edited)
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jaksic said:

Thanks! I was going to go with the TC since its the theatrical but ah well i guess its the blu ray!

Here are all the changes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiCn0O4aF_8

Author: JayArgonaut
Time: 2-Aug-2015 4:17 AM
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I've got this version and to me, it seems more like a Telesync rather than a TC. I watched it till an actual telecine came along and then kept it for historical curiosity.

It's been a while since I've viewed it but from memory, the audio suffers at one stage from what sounds like wow-and-flutter and at another point, from interference caused by a cellular phone. The framing isn't correct either and when compared with the telecine and retail DVD, it appears that portions of the image have been cropped.

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Author: jaksic
Time: 2-Aug-2015 5:34 AM
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Yeah I bet they're heaps of them out there! Thanks for the comment!