Info & Idea: Star Wars DTS Cinema tracks in 6.1

I knew that the Prequel Trilogy was originally shown in DTS-ES 6.1, even The Phantom Menace.

Now, what I found was that the DTS Cinema discs are oddly only in 5.1.

I think this may be a minor screw-up since I think the .wav filer are actually supposed to be encoded into DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 ES Matrix which can be matrixed to 6.1.

The official Blu-rays are in discrete 6.1. And there are many Blu-rays with discrete DTS-HD Master Audio 6.1 like Harry Potter 1 and 2 Ultimate Edition, The Lord of the Rings Extended Edition Trilogy and the Japanese Blu-ray of Spirited Away.

I don’t know which Blu-rays are only DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 ES Matrix (which can be matrixed to 6.1) but I do know that the Japanese Blu-ray of Howl’s Moving Castle had this, which was a contrast to the other Ghibli 6.1 Blu-rays (Spirited Away, Tales from Earthsea, Ponyo on the Cliff by the Sea) which were all discrete 6.1.

And if we decode the matrixed channel to a PCM file. Maybe we can recreate the DTS Cinema audio in discrete 6.1.

I know the only Star Wars movies in 6.1 are the prequels but we might as well do it for the Special Edition of the Original Trilogy as well.

I can’t actually do this since the conversion might be too much for my weak laptop and I don’t know where to get the files themselves, even in the Spleen, they are very rare.

If someone is going to do this and follow my idea. Then be my guest.

Avatar_Emil_Borg said:

Well, at least that would explain why 1-6 has 6.1 surround on Blu-ray.

No, they were discrete 6.1.

As far as I know, the prequels were never mixed into matrix DTS. TPM was the premiere movie for Dolby EX matrix and DTS later premiered their ES variant.
I don’t think the discrete ES version was ever used theatrically, as it was primarily designed for home video. Neither system really took off and became more of a marketing gimmick for video. Then THX discovered a flaw that caused the ear to miscue sound and necessitated the reconfiguration into 7.1.

I’ve tried the prequels in the various decoders and they work fine. The OT being 6.1 is evidence of how lazy they are. The awful DVD mixes were in DD EX and then these were decoded back to 6.1 at the source before being further bastardized.

captainsolo said:

As far as I know, the prequels were never mixed into matrix DTS. TPM was the premiere movie for Dolby EX matrix and DTS later premiered their ES variant.
I don’t think the discrete ES version was ever used theatrically, as it was primarily designed for home video. Neither system really took off and became more of a marketing gimmick for video. Then THX discovered a flaw that caused the ear to miscue sound and necessitated the reconfiguration into 7.1.

I’ve tried the prequels in the various decoders and they work fine. The OT being 6.1 is evidence of how lazy they are. The awful DVD mixes were in DD EX and then these were decoded back to 6.1 at the source before being further bastardized.

But AOTC had the DTS-ES logo on the end credits.

And apparently, some of the Studio Ghibli films like Spirited Away were DTS-ES 6.1 in the theatrical release.

And the reason why some of these Ghibli films are 6.1 is because they were theatrically presented in 6.1 and Studio Ghibli usually frowns upon remixing audio for surround and will always use the theatrical audio, even if it’s mono or Dolby Stereo. But they are still generous enough to give lossless audio, though.

Also, Spirited Away has one of the best 6.1 mixes ever, probably even beating the Star Wars movies.

nafroe said:

Swift S. Lawliet said:

captainsolo said:

As far as I know, the prequels were never mixed into matrix DTS. TPM was the premiere movie for Dolby EX matrix and DTS later premiered their ES variant.
I don’t think the discrete ES version was ever used theatrically, as it was primarily designed for home video. Neither system really took off and became more of a marketing gimmick for video. Then THX discovered a flaw that caused the ear to miscue sound and necessitated the reconfiguration into 7.1.

I’ve tried the prequels in the various decoders and they work fine. The OT being 6.1 is evidence of how lazy they are. The awful DVD mixes were in DD EX and then these were decoded back to 6.1 at the source before being further bastardized.

But AOTC had the DTS-ES logo on the end credits.

And apparently, some of the Studio Ghibli films like Spirited Away were DTS-ES 6.1 in the theatrical release.

And the reason why some of these Ghibli films are 6.1 is because they were theatrically presented in 6.1 and Studio Ghibli usually frowns upon remixing audio for surround and will always use the theatrical audio, even if it’s mono or Dolby Stereo. But they are still generous enough to give lossless audio, though.

Also, Spirited Away has one of the best 6.1 mixes ever, probable even beating the Star Wars movies.

The original DVD of Gladiator had DTS-ES 6.1 and sounded excellent.

Yes, I knew that. Also, The Lord of the Rings Extended Trilogy was DTS-ES 6.1.

I am not sure which movie should be my top 1 and if it should be the LOTR: EE Trilogy as a whole or Spirited Away.