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not sure if anyone has this but looking at the links on this page, it certainly does exist!

Seems there was a bootleg VHS tape some time ago that features Sam Jones original voice before it was dubbed over by a mysterious actor when the star and director fell out and Sam didn’t get called in for post production.

Links are here -> https://sites.google.com/site/flashgordonmovie/flashgordon–dubbingmystery

I’d love to get hold of that audio track on the tape and give it a listen

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Weird thing is, I saw Sam Jones promoting the movie on Nickelodeon's teen oriented talk show LiveWire at the time, and I didn't pick up on any vocal disparity with the clip they ran. (I think it was the football with Ming's men scene.) When I saw him decades later on the SciFi channel series, his real voice being different was obvious.

It was really funny when an audience member got the movie mixed up with Flesh Gordon.  Wish there was clip on youtube!

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Stumbled across this on youtube today. I'm hard pressed to hear the difference in Sam's voice, but there are noticeable differences in other spots.

http://youtu.be/NaKFbsHnbVg

I'm wondering about the early video releases now.

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I have it on VHS (ex-rental, I think), but I doubt it would be the same audio as the HBO recording.

Very interesting.

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My VHS, the tape itself says it's from 1985, but the box says 1993. MCA Universal. Stereo HiFi.

I need to watch it some time.

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The video description says the HBO airing started with an EMI logo instead of a Universal logo. EMI was the film's distributor in the UK, So could the sound mix from the HBO airing possibly have also been used for the UK theatrical release?

I know HBO sometimes received, and sometimes even commissioned, alternate transfers. (For example: They were unhappy with the pan-and-scan in the official transfer of Supergirl, so they paid for TriStar to make a new transfer for them.)

And actually, if the HBO print came from EMI, perhaps this track could be on the original, pre-cert UK video release from Thorn-EMI? Just a thought...

(I'm thinking back to the original UK VHS of The Muppet Movie, which not only had extra scenes, but also an entirely different sound mix, one which seems to my hear to have superior clarity and fidelity to the standard mix!)

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bigrob said:

SilverWook said:

This is getting interesting! Anyone got a PAL VHS deck handy?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VHS-Video-1980-FLASH-GORDON-Sam-J-Jones-Ornella-Muti-Brian-Blessed-Queen-/390713746670?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Videos&hash=item5af85aa4ee

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I have a copy of this now. Planing to capture it shortly

Any updates?

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ookamikaze said:

It is this version on VHS that has the audio with the Sam Jones original voice?

http://www.videocollector.co.uk/flash-gordon-1980/13909

 

Yeah that's the one

time to capture it is a bit limited at the mo due to the new addition to the family but soon as it's done and uploaded to the spleen, I'll provide an update

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I thought it was shown theatrically with the changed audio?