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Info Wanted: Need advice on recombining b/w color records of a 2 color cartoon!

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Hello list…

I need advice!

I’m working on recombining an old Cinecolor cartoon. I’ve transferred the 2 b/w records of the film (one red color, one blue/green). I’ve been taking the two sections into after effects, but so far I haven’t figure out how to combine them successfully- and get the adjustment to match the original look. Any suggestions on how to combine two color records effectively?

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I've read about early color experiments (amazingly colorful -- much more than one would expect!) but no experience with them. Could you post a few sample stills (i.e.: target color, your B&W sources, and your present results) and what technique(s) you are trying?

Just off-hand, I'm thinking one would use a standard R-G-B recombine. Red obviously is from your B&W-red-separation while Green & Blue (being identical) are from your B&W-green-blue-separation. Thereafter, just work on the R-G-B channels, remembering to duplicate all Green settings to Blue.

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Sounds cool- but how do I *do* this? I'm working in after effects. So- does anyone know how to take 2 b/w channels, combine them and have an adjustable color for each channel?

 

I've been playing with channel mixer a bit- and am able to bring both files together and give them a color- but the adjustments are  on ONE of the two color layers, with no indication of how to change my color levels...this is new territory to me!

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I  haven't used After-Effects, so no help there.

As for color manipulation, I directly adjust the individual R-G-B channels in a R-G-B Histogram function for simple corrections. If things look more complex, a R-G-B Curves function allows more hands-on precision (for the more experienced). Of course, always use an eye-dropper tool to see the exact, resulting R-G-B numbers -- very good for source-target comparisons.

Other functions, like your mention of the Channel Mixer, only hide what they do to the R-G-B (or in your case R & G-B). That's really hit-or-miss, puts secondary adjustments where you don't want them, or/and damages the correction with crush & blow-out. So I don't use them.

[If you need an example, my recent demonstration http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/THX-1138-preservations-Italian-Cut-available-see-1st-post/post/667478/#TopicPost667478 should give an idea of what's involved.]

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Zip Doodah said:

Hello list...

 

I need advice!

I'm working on recombining an old Cinecolor cartoon. I've transferred the 2 b/w records of the film (one red color, one blue/green). I've been taking the two sections into after effects, but so far I haven't figure out how to combine them successfully- and get the adjustment to match the original look. Any suggestions on how to combine two color records effectively?

 

Remember that the original cinecolor process was Cyan and Red so in after effects bring them in as two different video sequences on the timeline and colour each accordingly.

Then put your sequences on top of each other using the "Add" blend mode.

Depending on your colourspace management you may need to change your settings for the blend mode. See here: http://help.adobe.com/en_US/aftereffects/cs/using/WS61A9D13D-919A-4010-A3A2-00477A81FDB0a.html#WS2A3CEB0E-F1A1-4035-9C62-CFF4A0527B11a

 

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