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Recent Lucas Comment Regarding Esp. #7...

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Recently, George Lucas told CBS that "The Saga is Complete... there is no number 7."

However, this is contrary to a comment he made in the 1980s; and, for someone who has been carefully watching some of the comments made by Skywalker in the first two Esp., might not entirely be true.

Sometime in the 1980s (I'm not sure on the exact date), George Lucas told the USA today that the "Star Wars Saga is about the Life and Death of Darth Vader... and his Resurrection."

At the end of the 6th installment, we see Yoda, Obi-Wan, and Skywalker--all now on the side of Light, as ghosts... not quite dead. (We also now see some JEDI as Ghosts as well in Esp. #3--this is because the "force is not in balance"; remember, the whole premise of bringing Skywalker into being was to 'bring the force into balance.)

If we remember a comment Skywalker made to Portman during the second show, he said... "One day I'll be the most power _JEDI_ of them all... I'll even be able to stop people from dying."

At the end of the Sixth installment, he has now returned to the side of the light, so he is once again a JEDI.

In the Third Show, the Chancellor tells Skywalker that "The dark side offers many powers many consider to be unnatural...but they cannot be learned by a JEDI."

This offers a VERY SCARY meaning to the title for The Sixth Installment: "Return of the Jedi"; what if Lucas wasn't talking about Luke Skywalker as the JEDI to return, but rather VADER---as he returns to the side of LIGHT at the END of the movie (see below); that would be the TRUE "return" of THE JEDI.

Whether Lucas admits it or not, he has remained true to his originial ideals, setting the frame work in the three most recent installments for numbers 7, 8 and 9: The Ressurection of SKYWALKER... his ascention as the most powerful JEDI of them all.

Because, what is the only way to "Bring the Force Back into Balance"... but to bring BACK TO LIFE those Jedi now resident as "ghosts".

It offers many possibilities, but while at odds with Lucas most recent comment to CBS that there IS no #7; well, frankly, that's against his DREAM for Star Wars, and what he has now set the framework for for well over 30 years.


Comments anyone? I found this amazingly intriguing. I can't be the only one to have noticed this----or remembered the 1980s comment by Lucas!


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wow never really thought of it like that but that is a unique view on the title. though i still dont believe lucas will direct 7-9 if they will actually be movies.
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Back in the 1980's, he originally was going to make nine Star Wars movies. But, he has since changed his mind.
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While I think alot of the reasons he has decided against a 7-9 Star Wars is the flack he has caught off of Ep 1 and 2, I think if 3 is recieved well.....he might, just might changes his mind. Highly unlikely though.
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While I think alot of the reasons he has decided against a 7-9 Star Wars is the flack he has caught off of Ep 1 and 2, I think if 3 is recieved well.....he might, just might changes his mind. Highly unlikely though.


I think his age may have something to do with it, too. He's in his mid 60's, I think. He was like 27-29 when he made episode IV. And, last time I saw him he did not look like he's aging well.

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Also, while some of what you wrote was confusing...from what I could pick out, I think you were giving away some spoilers.

As someone who is attempting to avoid spoilers (beside what I've learned from the other films), people that do this without warning anger me. And you won't like me when I'm angry.
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"This offers a VERY SCARY meaning to the title for The Sixth Installment: "Return of the Jedi"; what if Lucas wasn't talking about Luke Skywalker as the JEDI to return, but rather VADER---as he returns to the side of LIGHT at the END of the movie (see below); that would be the TRUE "return" of THE JEDI.

Whether Lucas admits it or not, he has remained true to his originial ideals, setting the frame work in the three most recent installments for numbers 7, 8 and 9: The Ressurection of SKYWALKER... his ascention as the most powerful JEDI of them all. "

Actually, Vader was originally supposed to die at the end of ANH. The "third installment" was going to focus on Luke, his sister (not Leia at this point), and finally meeting the Emperor in Episode 9. Lucas decided to wrap things up by showing Palps in ROTJ, and making Leia Luke's sister.

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<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

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I know that the way Lucas claims he came up with the whole story is a not so white lie. So tell me how was it supposed to go down, what did he change and why?
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Gary Kurtz, the producer of ANH and ESB, spoke at the Sci-Fi Expo in Plano, TX this weekend along with his daughters Tiffany and Melissa (as children they played Jawas in ANH). He shared with the crowd about meeting Lucas, leaving the Star Wars films and the original plans for the entire saga.

Back in the early 70s, Kurtz was looking to use the new Technoscope technology in an upcoming film. Francis Ford Coppola hooked him up with George Lucas who had recently filmed TXH-1138 with Technoscope. Kurtz became interested in Lucas' planned American Graffiti and the partnership was born.

When the time came to produce ROTJ, Kurtz was unhappy with the story direction Lucas was taking. He felt that it was too much of a rehash of the first films with no real challenges. At the same time, Jim Henson was inviting him to produce his experimental film, Dark Crystal, which he chose instead.

Kurtz gave TPM a mixed review as he was clouded by plans made for Episode 1 back in the early 70s. As someone involved with Star Wars from the initial concepts, Kurtz revealed the original intentions for the nine films as they were laid out BEFORE 1980. Very interesting.

# EPISODE 1: Was to focus on the origins of the Jedi Knights and how they are initiated and trained

# EPISODE 2: Introduction and development of Obi-Wan Kenobi

# EPISODE 3: Introduction and life of Vader

# EPISODE 4: There were seven different drafts of the film. At one point, they pursued buying the rights to Hidden Fortress because of the strong similarities. At one point, Luke was a female, Han was Luke's brother, Luke's father was the one in prison (interesting point for some debates) and the film featured 40 wookies

# EPISODE 5: Once written, the screenplay of Empire is almost exactly what is seen on screen. The only cut scenes were those involving wampas in the rebel base (cut because of time and unsolved technical glitches) and about two minutes of Luke/Yoda Jedi training with no real dialog.

# EPISODE 6: Leia was to be elected "Queen of her people" leaving her isolated. Han was to die. Luke confronted Vader and went on with his life alone. Leia was not to be Luke's sister.

# EPISODE 7: Third trilogy was to focus on Luke's life as a Jedi, with very few details planned out.

# EPISODE 8: Luke's sister (not Leia) appears from another part of the galaxy.

# EPISODE 9: First appearance of the Emperor.

Gary Kurtz Reveals Original Plans for Episodes 1-9

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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While I think alot of the reasons he has decided against a 7-9 Star Wars is the flack he has caught off of Ep 1 and 2, I think if 3 is recieved well.....he might, just might changes his mind. Highly unlikely though.


I think his age may have something to do with it, too. He's in his mid 60's, I think. He was like 27-29 when he made episode IV. And, last time I saw him he did not look like he's aging well.


I think your math is faulty. He was directing ANH in like 1976-1979, right? If he's in his "mid-sixties" now, that would make him forty years older...

It's kinda hard to age forty years in a twenty-year period.

Unless he took up smoking.
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And drinking...

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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the novels that come after ROTJ are way better stories than any of the movies, in fact i think of star wars as a series of books with a few movies. its already clear that lucas has no regard for the novels, which is a shame because those authors are better writers than he is.

i would be very upset if he ignored the novels and comics in making ep. 7-9.
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George Lucas created the Star Wars films. They are his story. Any novels or comics are interpertations or varations of his stories, per his approval. Should George Lucas chose to disagree with them, so be it, prey he doesn't alter the deal any further.
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the novels that come after ROTJ are way better stories than any of the movies, in fact i think of star wars as a series of books with a few movies. its already clear that lucas has no regard for the novels, which is a shame because those authors are better writers than he is.

i would be very upset if he ignored the novels and comics in making ep. 7-9.


I tried to read the Expanded Universe, starting with the much-hailed Thrawn Trilogy. I couldn't get into it, and after awhile I didn't really care.

I must say that I preferred the novelizations of the original trilogy, in some ways, to the original trilogy itself.

To me, Star Wars is the original trilogy and only the original trilogy. Anything else is just an optional expansion that need not have any bearing upon that universe.

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I liked the Thrawn Trilogy, but not the subsequent Duology. The EU can be hit and miss as well - the Jedi Academy Trilogy being an abysmal failure in my eyes. I love reading the novelizations to see what could have been, as well as for extended explanations of onscreen events.

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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Originally posted by: someonelse
the novels that come after ROTJ are way better stories than any of the movies, in fact i think of star wars as a series of books with a few movies. its already clear that lucas has no regard for the novels, which is a shame because those authors are better writers than he is.

i would be very upset if he ignored the novels and comics in making ep. 7-9.


Still, that is like asking people to use fanfiction as canon. Because all EU novels are essentially glorified fanfiction.

Some of them are really good fanfiction, mind you, but nonetheless. Episodes based on the Thrawn Trilogy would be so awesome, though. That would rock the SW fandom's collective socks.

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I don't want an episode 7. Period.
I'd like a qui-gon jinn please with an Obi-Wan to go.

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Don't worry. It's not going to happen.

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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Don't worry. It's not going to happen.


It could, in TV format. It would basically be a television series that makes up the seventh episode. Of course, no one knows what the TV show is to be about.
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As far as I know, the TV series takes place between ROTS and ANH.

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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As far as I know, the TV series takes place between ROTS and ANH.


What I've heard is that Mark Hammil is in talks to play Skywalker in it, which would put it after Jedi. That would be cool, IMO as it would be nice to see some of the fall out from the destruction of the Empire.

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It's on TF.n, it takes place between ROTS and ANH, involves a spinoff character, will be written and directed by Lucas the first season and filmed all at once, and then broken up into 1 hour increments.
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