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Info Wanted: Has anyone tried capturing the 1992 LD 4:3 pan and scan copies?

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I am new here so not shore if any one has thought of this. Most people seem to be capturing the letterbox copy’s Has any one tried capturing the 1992 LD 4:3 pan and scan copy’s. I understand that the 4:3 pan and scan is cropped but would it not have more vertical resolution in the part it had? And isn’t most of the action in the 4:3 pan and scan copy? My thought is this. take the letterbox copy put it in you editing software and scale and crop to be Anamorphic Then take the 4:3 pan and scan copy, put it in your editing software and overlay it on top of the letterbox copy and scale it to match the letterbox copy. Then the hard part, make the 4:3 pan and scan copy Scan with the action to match the letterbox copy.

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The 1992 are from the same masters as the earlier releases before the THX remastering, so even though they don't have the rot problems of the earlier releases and have digital sound, they don't look spectacular.  Though they do look better than the VHS tapes from the same era.

The 1995 pan and scan faces VHS looks a lot better, but they cleaned up the picture with Digital cleanup.

Both have been preserved in the past by dark jedi as preservations.

I cannot be of any help to you however since all my copies are now rotten.

“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.

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If anyone could point me to a place to download a good quality 4:3 version of the movie(s), I would be glad to work on this project.  I don't have a laserdisc player, so I am just looking for something that has already been captured.  I used to have the faces VHS tapes, but gave them to my sister.  They probably aren't any better than the GOUT anyway because they are on VHS.

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I put together a proof of concept.  You need to right click on them and select View Image to see the whole picture.  Of course I slightly missed the alignment in the final image, but you get the point. :)  Edit: I replaced it with a better aligned version.  It is not possible to get it perfect due to the low resolution unless I upscaled it further.  Making it 1280 wide might do the trick.

Widescreen DVD resolution:

Fullscreen DVD resolution:

Widescreen upscaled to 480 vertical resolution:

Final version with fullscreen version overlaid onto upscaled widescreen version:

See the detail starting at Leia's eyeball and looking to the right.

The final resolution is 1126x480.  Not that far from 1280x720p.

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You would need the CAV versions of SW and ESB for this to work. The CLV versions were time compressed to fit the films on one disc, and would be impossible to synchronize with anything else.

Where were you in '77?

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Unless you were to slow them down to the proper speed... that is an easy process, is it not?

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the problem is none of the 4:3 laserdisc releases were that good of a transfer.

If there had been a pan & scan THX on laserdisc (or somebody stole the master that LFL used only for the VHS) or if there had been a fullscreen version of the special collection, then it might help.

But I think even the X0 guys mentioned only the THX and Japanese Special Collection were good enough to work with.

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Seems like the only way to feasibly do this would be to have something similar to the gimp image registration plugin(it automatically resizes, scales, and aligns similar images according to a reference image), but I don't know of anything like it in avisynth.  Anybody know of something like this?

I'm not really interested in overlaying the pan & scan versions with the widescreen but I would like to overlay the jsc, gout, and se using the jsc chroma information to be able to mix and match the gout and se dvd's without having to worry about color correction.  Unfortunately the cropping on each edition is different so the only way I can imagine to do this would be to register the images together before transfering the chroma.

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