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Info Wanted: German HDTV rip — Page 2
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And you could have not used the word "YOU". You could also stop making a horse's ass of yourself on these boards.
"Here we go again...".
Don't worry too much about it, TheSessler. Rikter and I have about had it with these boards anyways.
<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>
<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>
<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>
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Sorry, I didn't take it as such, I'm just sick and tired of all this unnecessary anti-American/anti-Capitalism bashing, and there appears to be no end in sight. There are plenty other boards to go to - it's just sad to see one extremely biased person being allowed to overun these boards.
Ironically, I actually talked Rikter out of not leaving this forum, but it's almost not worth it anymore.
<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>
<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>
<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>
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And you aren't doing much better. This MeBeJedi vs. DanielB $h!t is getting old and frankly I'm sick of it making it's way to every single thread you two post in. MBJ, there are more tactful ways to respond to this guy's crap than to turn everything he says into a debate over racial stereotypes and what capitalism means. Quit taking all his bait and learn how to stay on topic.
I know of a few people who are going to leave these boards pretty soon if Jay doesn't put you in line soon.
Well you can add me to the list. This place just hasn't been the same lately and I'm sick of it. I'm gone for a while.
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Just accept that people have different viewpoints!
And DanielB dont critisize peoples efforts let them do what ever they want with their different sets, if you arent making one yourself be glad that there are people who do. The time and money that is invested in a good transfer is huge!
So please dont alienate the contributers of the diffrent set that are out. I like them all, I have the OT, SE and SE2004.
Without the members of this forum I would be stuck with my old VHS tapes.
I want to thank all forum members who have and will do new SW sets.
I would even get a SW set where they had edited out C3P0, because I still have a couple of sets of the OT already!
Do not cut the hand off that feeds you............ that is plain stupied!
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MBJ refuses to acknowledge any of this. And he still doesn't want to admit that if he signed the petition to have the unaltered trilogy released then it is hypercritical of him to then not release the unaltered trilogy himself. That it is saying "Do as I say, not as I do" - and that he is like Lucas in that he wants to be able to make the changes he wants, and expects everyone else to be fine with it.
THAT is my argument. Forget the strawmen MBJ has come up with, that's all I've been arguing. I know there are people here who do agree with me. MBJ says, and continues to say that there are not. He is saying this to make my side seem stupid to believe in. Just like what happened to Pos and Fleischmann. Although anyone who actually listened to them knew that they didn't claim to have discovered cold fusion, and that they were simply commenting on their observations - "the other side" made up of people who experimented with multi-million dollar fusion equipment said they could not reproduce the results and that it was a fraud. They got the government on their side, and so who listened to Pons and Fleischmann?
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IN ANY EVENT...
My question was about the HDTV capture, and since NEITHER of you have said a WORD about it for two pages. Kindly SHUT THE FUCK UP AND TAKE IT ELSEWHERE.
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It is a better source for material than the SE LD. Basically it is the same content, but with better quality video.
Don't let the PAL thing throw you off, as it is an easy recompile back to 24fps to use as a DVD master.
It could be a good place to get some of the orginal frames back etc. that were lost in the DVD release. It's a shame its not the original OT, but it is less bastardised than the DVD release, and so some recovery is possible.
SO by combining the two, you could get something that was closer to the original trilogy than the DVD is, with better video quality than the laserdiscs.
As for using it to splice into the original laserdiscs, the effect is so jarring as to be unwatchable. I don't quite understand the reasoning behind doing it.
On one hand you could argue that you are putting the best available frames into the original trilogy. But what is the reason for doing that?
I agree (kind of) that it doesn't change the film *theoretically* (i.e. you have the same frame count, and the same things happen on the same frames) , but in reality you get something that is just plain weird, and is unwatchable as a film. So really you end up with something that is much further away from the experience of watching the OT, than just watching the laserdiscs, or a straight laserdisc transfer to DVD. You are much closer to the original just watching the laserdisc.
If the laserdisc and the DVD and the HDTV version were the only copies of the film in existence anywhere, then it would kinda make some sort of sense to do it from a historical viewpoint - but it's simply not the case, the film has been archived at the AFI and other places, and on VHS in many versions and on LD in many versions - so I don't really see the point of it.
And before we get too pedantic, we should all realise we are archiving the Laserdisc release of the film (which has been modified from the theatrical release) and not archiving the film itself.
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Originally posted by: INv8r_ZIM
Dude, YOU'RE the one who bitched about colour correction ....
No I didn't complain about colour correction. LD man yes I agree, however I think if you can restore the LD frames to the best possible quality then the drop in quality won't be too noticible. Try watching Manhunter the Restored Director's Cut. It doesn't take you out of the film. Dude, YOU'RE the one who bitched about colour correction ....
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Originally posted by: Karyudo
Well if that's the case, then there's a good possibility there's almost zero difference. I have two copies of the German DTV broadcast: one purportedly from DigiBeta, and one a direct rip. They're nearly identical in terms of sharpness, etc., but the DigiBeta-sourced one looks to be 16-235, whereas the rip looks to be 0-255.
Well if that's the case, then there's a good possibility there's almost zero difference. I have two copies of the German DTV broadcast: one purportedly from DigiBeta, and one a direct rip. They're nearly identical in terms of sharpness, etc., but the DigiBeta-sourced one looks to be 16-235, whereas the rip looks to be 0-255.
I totally agree. There is no real visible quality difference. I only have one version of the german rip, but this is the same quality as the reivax version although bitrate is much lower.
Never heard of a second german rip though. Where did you get it?
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Here is the info I got from the DVD
NEW - The 1997 Special Edition Trilogy - The “GKar” Edition
- 3 DVDr’s
- Source - German DBS transfer
- Anamorphic Transfer
Tech Specs
- 3.71gigs, 3.68gigs, 4.29gigs
- Interactive Menus
- Video - 3.8-4.5 Mbps (average bitrate)
- Anamorphic Widescreen Enhanced for 16x9 Monitors
- Audio 1: German - Dolby Digital 5.1 (448 Kbps)
- Audio 2: English - Dolby Digital 5.0 (448 Kbps)
- Audio 3: English - Dolby Digital 2.0 (256 Kbps
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“My skill are no longer as Mad as the once were” RiK
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