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ADM is the man,and also Doctor M's idea to use DVD-Rebuilder Pro, its very easy to use and also lets you filter,resize,and keep the menu's and extra's and DVD9,I did my PAL and NTSC set and they look friggin great,best OUT so far.
DJ
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Sounds like plenty of successes turning the GOUT into an anamorphic format.

No one has attempted to tackle the occurances of aliasing and interlacing/jaggies distortion?
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I obtained DVDRebuilder Pro, but when I convert to anamorphic (letterbox or pan-n-scan) it merely squishes the image. No good. Maybe I'm missing some checked box in an options list.

I know I’ve made some very poor decisions recently.

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I found out something really interesting about TMPGEnc ... it will read .avs scripts so you don't have to do the extra step of converting to AVI first. Lots of time wasted in the past has been saved on my upconvert.

Before you start, get the latest Gordian Knot rippack from Doom9.

Do this:
1) Open up DVD Decrypter. Change mode to IFO.
2) demux the audio and the english ac3 file as separate streams. Unless you're doing something custom to the AC3 file (as I did) just leave it alone and re-mux it with the changed file.
3) Using the latest rippack of Gordian Knot, launch dgindex.
4) File/Open/the M2V file you demuxed. Click OK.
5) Save the D2V file. Go do situps for about five minutes. When it is done saving:
6) Launch the actual Gordian Knot program. Click the "open" button in the lower left corner. Point it to the .D2V file you created above.
7) Click "Save and Encode" ... this will bring up another window ... just hit SAVE (not Save & Encode) on this window. This will create an AVS file. That's just a simple text file that you'll edit with notepad. Close Gordian Knot.
8) Open the AVS file. Change the line with the crop command to this:
crop(0,0,720,480)
and change the line with the Lanczos resize to this:
Lanczos4Resize(720, 480)
Save the file.
9) Launch TMPGEnc. Select at 16:9 NTSC project. Load the modified .AVS file into it. Set the Average Video Bitrate to 8000. We'll recompress after muxing, but this will ensure the best quality recompress from the source file to the anamorphic file. This will create a new M2V file and a WAV file. The wave file will be empty junk you'll delete when you're done.
Let this run overnight.
10) Load the new M2V file, the original AC3 file, the chapter points, and the subtitles (see my earlier post for the ones from ANH so you don't have to rip them) into DVDLab Pro. I think you know what to do from here. If the result is larger than a DVD-DL, you can use Nero to recompress to DL or SL. With the AC3, you may not need to recompress.

I know you can do this. Let me know if you have any questions about any of these specifics.
I am fluent in over six million forms of procrastination.
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Oops, nevermind. I had downloaded DVD*remake* pro, rather than DVd rebuilder.
I will give it another shot and let you know how it goes.

I know I’ve made some very poor decisions recently.

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lets us know if it works for you,DVD-RB is very very cool,now all it needs to do is convert PAL to NTSC and vice versa.
DJ
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ADigitalMan, I used your method and I was able to make ESB animorphic. Thanks for your step by step process.


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So if I just get the DVD onto the hard drive via DVDShrink and run it through DVDRebuilder Pro with the "convert to anamorphic" checked.... it should be okay?

I know I’ve made some very poor decisions recently.

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Originally posted by: Hal 9000
So if I just get the DVD onto the hard drive via DVDShrink and run it through DVDRebuilder Pro with the "convert to anamorphic" checked.... it should be okay?



Yep. You may want to go in and just pick the main movie title to be converted to anamorphic. The menus are fine. Not sure what would happen if you converted the entire disc.
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Originally posted by: Marvolo
ADigitalMan, I used your method and I was able to make ESB animorphic. Thanks for your step by step process.


That was fast! You must have a much better machine than mine (which is entirely probable).

Currently trying to upload seventiesfilmnut's sound files currently (for the umpteenth time). I promised Darth Mallwalker I'd get them up, and I keep trying.
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They've already been upped haven't they?

“I love Darth Editous and I’m not ashamed to admit it.” ~ADigitalMan

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On usenet, which is only good for those with usenet. This is just a little digital PiF.
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I have previously written a guide (based on someone else's poorly constructed guide) on how to down rate an audio track.

Theoretically you could use the method to add/replace audio tracks on a full disc keeping the menus and disc structure intact.
You'd have to get your new audio track to sync before adding it of course, and you'd only have access through the 'audio' key on your remote (unless you replaced an existing track and can remember that say french is your mono). I suppose you could rebuild the menus too... but then you might as well just rebuild the whole disc.

If anyone is interested I'll upload the guide somewhere.

Dr. M

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Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
Originally posted by: Marvolo
ADigitalMan, I used your method and I was able to make ESB animorphic. Thanks for your step by step process.


That was fast! You must have a much better machine than mine (which is entirely probable).

Currently trying to upload seventiesfilmnut's sound files currently (for the umpteenth time). I promised Darth Mallwalker I'd get them up, and I keep trying.


My machine isn't that fast. When I said I used your step by step process I meant I used the older process from your "Guide to Editing" thread. The only difference was that I skipped the VirtualDub step as you later tated in your updated step by step process in this thread. Hope that makes some kind of since.


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Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
I found out something really interesting about TMPGEnc ... it will read .avs scripts so you don't have to do the extra step of converting to AVI first.


I thought this was common knowledge... otherwise I would've told you years ago.
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Originally posted by: Laserschwert
Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
I found out something really interesting about TMPGEnc ... it will read .avs scripts so you don't have to do the extra step of converting to AVI first.


I thought this was common knowledge... otherwise I would've told you years ago.


Well, AVISynth is a frameserver, so in theory, you can use an AVS file with every program that can read AVI.
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Originally posted by: iRantanplan
Well, AVISynth is a frameserver, so in theory, you can use an AVS file with every program that can read AVI.


If only it were so... but there are many programs that don't support AVS files. I guess AviSynth won't work with programs that read the files literally (I don't know the technical details of AVI files or the code used to parse them, but it would be great if someone else could follow up on this). That's why we need to use a plugin in order to use AVS files in Premiere.
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How exactly do I setup DVD Rebuilder Pro to convert to anamorphic? I tried it with "no compression" mode but the end result was 100% identical to what I started with.

I know I’ve made some very poor decisions recently.

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Yeah I don't think it will let you do that without an encoder to work with.

“I love Darth Editous and I’m not ashamed to admit it.” ~ADigitalMan

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Originally posted by: Hal 9000
How exactly do I setup DVD Rebuilder Pro to convert to anamorphic? I tried it with "no compression" mode but the end result was 100% identical to what I started with.


You go into Settings, then Options, then AVS Options, then AVS Expert Options, then "Convert from LB 4:3 to 16:9". Check which video titles you want it applied to.

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Originally posted by: Doctor M
I have previously written a guide (based on someone else's poorly constructed guide) on how to down rate an audio track.

Theoretically you could use the method to add/replace audio tracks on a full disc keeping the menus and disc structure intact.
You'd have to get your new audio track to sync before adding it of course, and you'd only have access through the 'audio' key on your remote (unless you replaced an existing track and can remember that say french is your mono). I suppose you could rebuild the menus too... but then you might as well just rebuild the whole disc.

If anyone is interested I'll upload the guide somewhere.


One vote for this guide.
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Originally posted by: ChainsawAsh
Originally posted by: Doctor M
I have previously written a guide (based on someone else's poorly constructed guide) on how to down rate an audio track.

Theoretically you could use the method to add/replace audio tracks on a full disc keeping the menus and disc structure intact.
You'd have to get your new audio track to sync before adding it of course, and you'd only have access through the 'audio' key on your remote (unless you replaced an existing track and can remember that say french is your mono). I suppose you could rebuild the menus too... but then you might as well just rebuild the whole disc.

If anyone is interested I'll upload the guide somewhere.


One vote for this guide.


I agree. I'd be intrested in this.
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This is my first post here after reading this forum for the last few weeks. You guys seem to really know a lot about DVD authoring. I'm hoping someone can help clarify something for me.

I have a widescreen LCD tv and the Oppo 970 upconverting dvd player. I want to make anamorphic versions of the unaltered trilogy from my letterbox discs in order to take advantage of the upconverting feature of my dvd player. I thought I would be fine with zoom function on my tv, but that seems to cut off some of the subtitles. My dvd player has a zoom feature that doesn't cut off the subtitles, but there is no zoom scale that fits the tv perfectly. So my questions are these:

Will converting these discs to anamorphic make it look better than the tv's zoom function?

Will converting to anamorphic make it look better than the DVD player zoom function?

Is there a way to use DVD rebuilder to convert to anamorphic while not decreasing the output to DVD-5? I know you have to re-encode to do the letterbox to anamorphic conversion, but I can't find an option that allows me to have a target size for DVD-9.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thank you.
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Originally posted by: Shelton
This is my first post here after reading this forum for the last few weeks. You guys seem to really know a lot about DVD authoring. I'm hoping someone can help clarify something for me.

I have a widescreen LCD tv and the Oppo 970 upconverting dvd player. I want to make anamorphic versions of the unaltered trilogy from my letterbox discs in order to take advantage of the upconverting feature of my dvd player. I thought I would be fine with zoom function on my tv, but that seems to cut off some of the subtitles. My dvd player has a zoom feature that doesn't cut off the subtitles, but there is no zoom scale that fits the tv perfectly. So my questions are these:

Will converting these discs to anamorphic make it look better than the tv's zoom function?

Will converting to anamorphic make it look better than the DVD player zoom function?

Is there a way to use DVD rebuilder to convert to anamorphic while not decreasing the output to DVD-5? I know you have to re-encode to do the letterbox to anamorphic conversion, but I can't find an option that allows me to have a target size for DVD-9.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thank you.


I believe you have to purchase the PRO version to use DVD-9. The free version does not offer that feature.

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Ok I upped a zip file containing the web doc and a folder of images for the guide: http://rapidshare.de/files/35010977/Downrating_Audio_Guide.zip.html

As I said before, I can't take full credit for the guide. The original had poor english (making it difficult to understand), and a few holes in the steps.
I just cleaned it up.

Anyway, it's original intent is to allow you to take a DVD, extract an audio track (usually PCM), re-encode the audio to DD and then add it back without any other changes to the DVD. It's pretty slick really.

My theory here is, if you go though this, but skip the audio re-encoding step (unless you want more compression on it), when you rebuild the disc, just add any additional audio tracks you were wanting (and leave out any you don't). Just make sure you know the order of the audio tracks because it will effect the audio selection menu.
You'd probably have to shrink/reencode the video to make it fit on a disc when you're done, but it'll get you a fully function disc with menus AND that mono track you want on there (or whatever).

Dr. M