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GOOSE -

I've watched your first "Executor Boxset" Extras DVD and I must say I'm impressed with these VHS transfers, the moment you drop the DVD into your player your greeted with the words A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away. . .

The motion menus were some of the coolest I've seen from any of the extras DVD's, the PAL VHS capture was a wonderful surprise (having done a few captures myself I know VHS can be tricky) very clear image on my set but please keep in mind this is a PAL set so my DVD player did downconvert it to NTSC so I'm sure that a PAL playback setup would look MUCH better as it would not have the vertical squeeze. Goose this is a great first outing and I would LOVE to see a complete set!

Drop me an email tonight or so I'd like to run a few things past ya

(SO SO sorry to hear about the bad tape )

“My skill are no longer as Mad as the once were” RiK

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Hi Rikter,

Thanks for the kind words- PM and email on the way....
I'm sorry, I hate it when it does that.....
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I'm confused though...

Aren't the masters for the making of specials all 16mm? The quality will always be pretty poor...no matter what the mastering...no? I can't believe that they would have made different masters for this release.
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You're right in that the quality of this stuff is average at best due to the source material- I'm pretty sure that's why these weren't considered for the official DVD release.

However, it's nice to have the original, contemporary documentaries and trailers preserved in the best possible transfer, because no matter how "made-for-TV" those docs and features were, they're what we remember watching from our childhood days, and I guess that's why a lot of us are here on these forums in the first place.

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However, it's nice to have the original, contemporary documentaries and trailers preserved in the best possible transfer, because no matter how "made-for-TV" those docs and features were, they're what we remember watching from our childhood days, and I guess that's why a lot of us are here on these forums in the first place.


No i completely understand.

my point is that from release to release...the transfer quality is probably not going to be different at all. For instance, I have the Classic Creatures VHS from it's original release (Playhouse video, I believe) and it's still in great condition. Burned to DVD and should be seeded eventually. But I doubt you're ever going to get it in much better condition unless something official comes out. I can't believe the difference in PQ from NTSC to PAL would be that different.
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Well, if you're in a native PAL country (as I am), then the difference between NTSC and PAL is quite noticeable- see Moth3r's transfers, for example.

But you are right to think that the different VHS versions probably don't differ from each other that much in terms of quality.
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Well, if you're in a native PAL country (as I am), then the difference between NTSC and PAL is quite noticeable- see Moth3r's transfers, for example.


Fair enough. Having never seen native PAL I wouldn't know the visual difference. All I know is that the AUDIO difference is enough to drive me crazy. That's why I don't use pal and convert what I have to NTSC.
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I dunno if my transferring method would be ideal for you or not - but I have some really nice results when transferring some VHS tapes to DVD already. I would be transferring them straight from the VHS onto a standalone Liteon LVW 5005B DVD Recorder. I would only transfer in either 1, 2, or 3 hour mode - I wouldn't go beyond these times as it can pixelate pretty badly after this point.


I also have this recorder and have had good results recording from SKY Digital and from PAL VHS. I would stick with 2 hour mode at the most as the 3 hour mode tends to lose a bit of quality.

I have the 5 main releases of the OT and SE (91, 93, 95, 97 and 00) in Wide and Full screen which I intend to preserve to DVD at some point in the future.

The Star Wars Executor Boxset VHS (1995) would make a fine addition to my future efforts.

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Right - I've done a quick transfer of 'From Star Wars To Jedi' to my standalone recorder. Had a quick look at the VHS as it was copying - doesn't look as though the VHS is the nicest source material I've ever seen. This has been recorded in 3 hour mode - and (I think) for the quality of the source, and being recorded in 3 hour mode that the quality isn't too bad.

If anyone can be bothered, then please have a look and let me know what you think. I have posted a 1 minute sample at YouSendIt - filesize is 20MB. Clip can be found here - http://s42.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2LP6YKIBB28G2233HQO4U3K6V3

Cheers,

Rebel Scum.
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Reblescum - I'm new to the boards so this question might be an old one, but what is so special about the rare french laserdisc english sountrack?
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Originally posted by: Goose
...the difference between NTSC and PAL is quite noticeable- see Moth3r's transfers, for example. The difference between the DC set and the French laserdiscs cannot be fully attributed to the difference between the NTSC/PAL format - they are both from different masters, and whoever did the PAL transfer from the film print made a better job of it than his NTSC counterpart.

Doctor M & Citizen have shown that there is still a noticeable difference between an NTSC version direct from the DC transfers and an NTSC version converted from PAL.

Originally posted by: Observer
...what is so special about the rare french laserdisc english sountrack?
The set is not exactly rare, just very expensive. They are the only discs that contain the English soundtrack for the original trilogy at PAL speed in PCM form. (And they are still missing a few frames at the end of side 1 of ANH )

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Rebel scum-

Thanks for upping the clip. The transfer looks soft but possibly slightly better in terms of colour and brightness than mine (the poor colour and levels are also evident on my VCR playback, not specifically my captured footage). I suspect that the VHS is just a bad transfer of a lousy source, but your copy may just be that little bit better than mine.

Would you be able to put up a different clip? There is an early scene during filming in Jabba's palace when Mark Hammil and Carrie Fisher are leaning back against Jabba, joking for the camera. That is particularly bad for colour and brightness on my tape, whereas RowMan's is much better in those respects but much, much softer- there is very little detail visible at all. It would be interesting to see a snippet of that sequence from your capture (might I suggest that you recapture in 1 or 2 hour mode- blank DVDs permitting.... ) and so compare a number of sources.

Thanks,

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Originally posted by: Goose
You're right in that the quality of this stuff is average at best due to the source material- I'm pretty sure that's why these weren't considered for the official DVD release.


maybe it's a bit of that, but i'd suggest it's also on account of lucasfilm's apparent mandate to rewrite its own diaries. they'd prefer to edit the old stuff into newer docs, rather than continue to circulate old promotional materials that contradict G.L.'s more recent statements at practically every turn. :-P
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I just bought this one on ebay. Is it worth transfering ? I'm watching ANH right now and a lot of the preservations look better than this VHS :-)

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pittrek said:

I just bought this one on ebay. Is it worth transfering ? I'm watching ANH right now and a lot of the preservations look better than this VHS :-)

What kinda price did you get, if you don't mind me asking?

For the posterity of your collection you might want to do straight transfers so you can keep the tapes in good shape.  You know what would be awesome of you?  If there is any way you could do hi-res scans of the artwork for the VHS boxes....that would be SO very cool as I have quite the archive of Star Wars artwork for DVD, Bluray, and VHS ..... sadly, I do NOT have these in it.

Hint, hint ......

:)

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Quite cheap, 26 pounds. The shipping was more expensive :-)

I'll see what I can do about the scanning. However I will definitely NOT scan the book, I would ruin it

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pittrek said:

Quite cheap, 26 pounds. The shipping was more expensive :-)

I'll see what I can do about the scanning. However I will definitely NOT scan the book, I would ruin it

No problemo ..... I can live with your decision.

:)

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pittrek said:

Quite cheap, 26 pounds. The shipping was more expensive :-)

I'll see what I can do about the scanning. However I will definitely NOT scan the book, I would ruin it

I need some quick money so I was thinking of selling my Executor boxset, but for £26 it's hardly worth it.