Info: Star Trek HD Caps — Page 8

Alt.Binz is what I use.

I have located the Skycaps for Generations, First Contact and Insurrection. If anyone would like the file names just PM me.

Also Jonno your inbox is full.

Many thanks dlbsyst!

Just back from seeing the current DCP of Wrath of Khan. Despite my misgivings, it turned out to be absolutely beautiful; authentic colour and pleasing grain. Outside of a freshly-struck 35mm print, it's hard to imagine a better presentation of this film. Catch it if you ever get the chance.

Is the DCP from the same master as the Blu-Ray, or is this another case of a new 4K version debuting as a DCP long before it gets a home release?

It's hard to tell - it may originate from the HD remaster/restoration done for the Blu (before all the questionable colour work was done), but since that's 6 years old now, and the DCP looked better in pretty much every respect, I'm inclined to think it's a do-over.

Interesting. Have you ever seen a 35mm print?

Jonno said:

It's hard to tell - it may originate from the HD remaster/restoration done for the Blu (before all the questionable colour work was done), but since that's 6 years old now, and the DCP looked better in pretty much every respect, I'm inclined to think it's a do-over.

 I have it was a while back tho 

TServo2049 said:

Interesting. Have you ever seen a 35mm print?

Sadly no, so my views are solely based on having seen the home video versions (albeit a fair few of them!)

Darn. Wish you could see the print I saw, but I don't think studios ship repertory prints overseas.

As I said, the Director's Cut is closest, but of course contrast was higher since it was a print, the colors on this 35mm seemed punchier (the green paneling on the turbolift actually had some saturation to it, the phasers and photon torpedoes had more saturation, etc.), and there was more orange/blue or orange/cyan in certain scenes (not orange/teal, and not the overcooled Blu-ray palette).

Now I just wish I could see a print, or even a new DCP, of Star Trek VI. The Blu-ray transfer was an atrocity, I'm so glad we don't see much of that horrible waxy degraining anymore. The push for 4K/UHD future-proofing seems to be leading to transfers that either aren't degrained, or are degrained less harshly, and then regrained to have a more "filmic" look. (Of course I prefer the former, but hey, either way stuff like STVI, Predator, Spartacus, etc. are going to look exponentially better when we get inevitable 4K remasters...)

I do have some caps from EPIX2 that PDB was nice enough to send me.  I don't have all the films .... I'm missing TWOK, TFF, TUC, and  no Next Gen movies.  They  might be of some help.

Here is MediaInfo from TMP:

Format                         : MPEG-PS
File size                      : 9.51 GiB
Duration                       : 2h 19mn
Overall bit rate mode          : Variable
Overall bit rate               : 9 724 Kbps
Law rating                     : R

Video
ID                             : 224 (0xE0)
Format                         : MPEG Video
Format version                 : Version 2
Format profile                 : Main@High
Format settings, BVOP          : No
Format settings, Matrix        : Custom
Format settings, GOP           : Variable
Format settings, picture struc : Frame
Duration                       : 2h 19mn
Bit rate mode                  : Variable
Bit rate                       : 9 146 Kbps
Maximum bit rate               : 18.0 Mbps
Width                          : 1 920 pixels
Height                         : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio           : 16:9
Frame rate                     : 29.970 fps
Color space                    : YUV
Chroma subsampling             : 4:2:0
Bit depth                      : 8 bits
Scan type                      : Interlaced
Scan order                     : Top Field First
Compression mode               : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)             : 0.147
Time code of first frame       : 00:00:00:00
Time code source               : Group of pictures header
Stream size                    : 8.94 GiB (94%)

Audio
ID                             : 189 (0xBD)-128 (0x80)
Format                         : AC-3
Format/Info                    : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension                 : CM (complete main)
Format settings, Endianness    : Big
Muxing mode                    : DVD-Video
Duration                       : 2h 19mn
Bit rate mode                  : Constant
Bit rate                       : 384 Kbps
Channel(s)                     : 6 channels
Channel positions              : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate                  : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth                      : 16 bits
Compression mode               : Lossy
Delay relative to video        : -1s 199ms
Stream size                    : 384 MiB (4%)

Flexicon9 said:

Is Star Trek III hdtv still on Usenet?  Any kind soul who might point it out via pm would be greatly appreciated... thanks in advance!

 Maybe, but these are awfully old. Any one who still wants them better get them quick. Flexicon9, I will get you the file name when I get home from work.

Flexicon9 said:

Many thanks, dlbsyst... Wrath of Khan is still alive and kicking.  It looks great... correct color-timing.

 Your welcome. PM sent.

So are there still plans to do something with the sky captures?

I would LOVE to see an archive set of all these HDTV releases .... for alternative viewing purposes of course considering we have LD audio captures that can be synced to these for a broader experience.

:)

Very interested in getting my hands on the Sky HD version of TMP.

skyjedi2005 said:

I would be interested in seeing what the color timing is on the HDTV release of Star Trek II.

The blu ray is restored from the negative.

Are there screenshots of the color of the uniforms Kirk and his crew wear?

In the blu ray some shots are almost orange or brown like the source the negative was faded.

While some of the earlier home video versions had the film overly red with the colors blown out but the uniforms were red.

Before I even look at the screenshots to muddy my mind… from my childhood memory they were deep to dark red, almost maroon but not quite that dark.

EDIT: Checking the screenshots… Jesus what is up with the crazy color timings we get from blu ray releases? This one is closest to my memory:
http://s166.photobucket.com/user/adzez/media/Star Trek/fbc133be.png.html

Thanks for sharing the HDTV II on myspleen. Would definitely be interested in the other SkyHD caps of the other films, though I realize they might need to be shared via a non-spleen method.

towne32 said:

Thanks for sharing the HDTV II on myspleen. Would definitely be interested in the other SkyHD caps of the other films, though I realize they might need to be shared via a non-spleen method.

OMG YES that wasn’t there when I posted this morning! Thank you so much!

I think it’s very unlikely that these files will still be accessible, even with a usenet subscription with incredible retention. They seemed to be barely accessible when you guys were discussing it three years ago. However, if anyone has nzbs for the ideal releases of each (no station logo, etc) I would definitely like to try. I can’t even find the relevant releases with usenet search engines.