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JF_Sanderson said:
Q1: better choices for soundmix on these two movies?For Aladdin the best sounding audio is from the 35mm scan. You can find a version of that synced to the UHD. For TLM, probably one of the LDs.
Hmm I found a 35mm film scan of Aladdin, with 2.0 optical and 2.0 Laserdisc audio. I’ll compare them when I can use my hifi. The optical still has the censored lyric.
Little Mermaid and Aladdin were orignaly Dolby stereo. Everything since then is an upmix.
I do know the Little Mermaid had a surround up/re-mix for the theatrical re-release and that track was included on the first DVD. After that you start getting Disney’s crap home theater mixes instead.
I’m not sure about the history of Aladdin, I’d assume it’s identical since the 35mm transfer is also a 5.1 DTS track.Most of the audio coming from the from would be the most accurate.
Btw, I’ve seen the 35mm audio track of Aladdin, but where I found it they don’t have it synced to any video because of site rules (or something). You may have to sync the track yourself, but it’s worth it since there were lyric and dialog changes. Little Mermaid, afaik, doesn’t suffer from that.
Have not found the Aladdin theatrical 5.1. On an old laserdisc site I read mention that it did have some 5.1 theatrical presentations, not just Dolby Stereo, and this 5.1 carried over to LD and the first DVD (which also had a separate home theater 5.1 mix.)
I could sync it myself if I had it available. So anybody feel free to pm me. My only real frame of reference (besides the 7.1) is the vhs and old cassette soundtrack. I suppose what I’m seeking is a version of the film as dynamic as the soundtrack album, but I don’t know of one exists.
As for Little Mermaid, it wasn’t just heavy fronts, it was the mono vocals coming out all the speakers. I read Lion King had that same 7.1 remix problem but haven’t seen/heard it.
Little mermaid had 4.1 dolby 6 track stereo/70mm surround sound mixes in addition to dolby stereo 4.0 matrix for its original theatrical run in 89. the dolby stereo was a matrix downmix without the extra base of the 70mm track. only the dolby stereo was ever released on LD
for aladdin and the little mermaids 5.1 laserdisc tracks(and limited issue dvd little mermaid release) their 5.1 was the 98 and 97( respectively) theatrical re-release ac3 remixes, those laserdisc’s dolby stereo track is a downmix of said remix. so if you want the original dolby stereo for them you need the original laserdisc/vhs release not the 2nd release from the late 90s.
That said i personally prefer their theatrical re-relese ac3 and have the little mermaid’s sycn’d to the 4k release even. Since those are discrete and still faithful to the original release but have kick butt base
