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As with The Best of Roger Rabbit, uncensored Laserdiscs of The Rescuers did escape the Mouse police. ;)

Where were you in '77?

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link343 said:

Doctor M, I was thinking about this last night. Have you taken in account the topless woman controversy into consideration when finding a purist version of The Rescuers? I know it's an extremely minor point, but I think it's worth pointing out. 

I know when Disney released it on Home Video for the second time, they caught the frames and recalled the VHS. I don't think the frame was in the first DVD release.

I know nothing of this... at all.  It was not taken into account, do you have links with more details?  Is there an available version besides some non-recalled VHS that can be recommended for purists?

Edit: A quick Google tells me the nudity as added in post production... so NOT the intent of the animators.  Probably Tyler Durdan's father having some fun then.

Can the nude frames be considered more accurate or less?  How badly has Disney edited to remove them?

Dr. M

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IMDB Wrote:

On 8 January 1999, Disney issued a recall of 3.4 million copies of the home video version because two frames included an "objectionable background image", probably inserted without permission during production as an in-joke. The offending frames appear in a scene featuring a pan across an apartment: in one of the apartment windows, a picture of a topless woman can be glimpsed. This scene was intact for the original theatrical release in 1977. However, it was not in the 1992 video version because that was "made from a different print" according to a Disney spokesperson.

I assume some prints had these controversial frames. And the '99 release used one of these prints. I guess there was a LD release along side the VHS release. 

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   Remember I was looking for a PAL dvd ( presumably uncut ) with the Portuguese track? Well, it seems the Spanish DVD version on a public tracker is being seeded (on and off) again. If I were to download it, connectability issues would be keeping me from getting it, and I imagine any help would be nice ( that is, more people in the swarm ).  It's the "Melody Time Disney Classic" one, at 4,37 GB and which specifies the Portuguese audio on its description. Since this forum does not support piracy, I'm not gonna mention the tracker's name, I'm afraid I'm gonna have to keep you AT BAY yet again...

 

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Thanks for this. On  a whim, decided I should finally finish the animated canon, and immediately went to this list. Happy about this. I come here to open my mind, particularly because I don't feel I care about film preservation enough. Now I'm gonna end up ordering Walt & El Grupppo for an uncensored movie. 

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I've recently been rewatching all Disney animated films (more or less in chronological order) and on a bigger TV than ever before.

I'm also seeing thing I haven't seen before.

Tonight I sat through Pete's Dragon (Gold Edition, which is possibly the same transfer/restoration as all DVDs).

Besides the obvious over scrubbing of grain, I saw something I'm hesitant to claim as true.

Did they regrade it to orange/teal or try to?  Most white areas seemed pushed to bluish and a lot of people seemed sunburned.

My problem is I no longer have any older editions to compare it to.
Can anyone confirm or deny this?
Does the newest transfer (BD) look better?  Did they use less DNR.

Is there something that I should be recommending as a 'purist' version?  The problem is, I know all older versions are severely cut down.

Btw, did anyone else see the mention that Disney is planning a non-musical reboot of this film?  Ugh.

Dr. M

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^I remember once Harmy made a comment about how the teal/orange shift that everyone complains about nowadays turned out to be a pretty regular thing with film in the '70s. He even cited Star Wars, particularly - as I recall - a version of this screenshot taken from his Despecialized Edition. I really wish I could find that post now...

note-source comes from zombie84's "corrected" version on the savestarwars website. I can't find the original screenshot comparison thread anymore... guess it was unstickied.

A Goon in a Gaggle of 'em

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There is an issue with the current Little Mermaid Blu-Ray (here are the details). However, just today Disney announced a replacement program for at least the first two main errors. As for the others - I don't know if they justify a preservation effort.

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The fade during Scuttle's first scene has apparently been fixed in the Amazon digital copy, so it's to be expected that will be fixed in the replacement disc too. Good news they're putting any effort in it at all though.

Also, hello, new here. Between this and the other fairly long Disney thread, I can't quite figure out what projects people are currently working on. There are some mentions in this threads opening post, but the Song of the South 16mm thread seems to have come to a standstill (?), and I remember reading a Cinderella 35mm scan was supposed to be happening too? 

 

 

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   I'd love to see a 16mm ( or even 8mm ) of the segment with the censored scenes from "Fantasia" show up, now THAT would be nice. All I've seen are very low-res videos.

   And if some of the more technically-gifted fans were to clean it up and re-insert it in the segment, that would also be great, wouldn't it?

 

   Now a real treat: What if Disney showed its past some respect and released it uncensored, even if that meant a big disclaimer which can't be skipped?

 

   By the way, does anyone know if there are any pics of the scene in "Snow White" that was replaced soon after released? The one where Dopey was crying after they find her dead, but his crying made people laugh , so it was removed? They mention that scene on the DVD extras.

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I've tried to link in the first post any preservations that have a home here on OT.

There is an analog preservation site that several members here belong to with additional projects.  You might want to check it out.

Dr. M

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Has anyone with skillz tossed together a 2-disc Restored Edition Melody Time/Make Mine Music cover?

Dr. M

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Doctor M, where could I find the edits you make? Looks like you do an amazing job preserving these classics.

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http://sd.caps-a-holic.com/vergleich.php?vergleichID=659

Doctor M, this would prove Pinocchio 2003 & 2009 are different restorations, right? Does anyone have both? I´d like to see a PE vs. SE comparison, to me, PE looks pretty good, but I prefer the SE color scheme (not saying it´s accurate), to me the perfect blend would be PE´s luma and SE´s chroma. 

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Screenshot 4 shows exactly what is wrong with the Platinum Edition restoration.

There was no R1 release in 2003, but the screenshots appears to be very similar to the 1999 Limited Issue/2000 Gold DVD.

Also, with Disney replacing TLM Diamond BDs, are we actually calling this an actual successful restoration?  I'm finding it really hard to believe.

I will be updating the first post when I can find my notes.  Most importantly I will be demoting the Great Mouse Detective Mystery in the Mist disc.  Got to watch it recently and it is an eyesore.

Dr. M

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Wait... what happened to the blue bird in the following frame? http://i.ebayimg.com/t/SNOW-WHITE-AND-THE-SEVEN-DWARFS-reissue-35mm-LPP-Fuji-feature-Disney-/00/s/MTE0NlgxNjAw/z/opYAAOxyWmxSZzLz/$(KGrHqV,!qEFJN-jc1wQBSZzLyv20!~~60_57.JPG

Didn't Disney take individual photographs of each frame?

A picture is worth a thousand words. Post 102 is worth more.

I’m late to the party, but I think this is the best song. Enjoy!

—Teams Jetrell Fo 1, Jetrell Fo 2, and Jetrell Fo 3

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Weird... I wonder if that was a computer glitch in the Disney scanner?

Something to remember, and not to disagree with you Doctor M, but I don't think that is what SW is supposed to look like. Scanning was in its infancy, and Disney even admits they changed the palette a bit. I agree that it looks good, but from a preservationist/archivist standpoint "good" does not always equal "correct."

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I just sent a message to the seller to ask if the print was created before or after the 1994 digital restoration.

A picture is worth a thousand words. Post 102 is worth more.

I’m late to the party, but I think this is the best song. Enjoy!

—Teams Jetrell Fo 1, Jetrell Fo 2, and Jetrell Fo 3

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ww12345, feel free to disagree.

My opinion was based on the grain and the more muted colors.  It feels more like I remember it.

Btw, don't you already have Snow White on Fuji stock ('84?)?

As far as the blurry bird, there are many frames in Snow White like that.  I don't think it was the restoration, but a flaw in the original photographing of the cells.

I previously posted a similar frame: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/The-Vaultbreakers-Collection-Disney-Preservations/post/642540/#TopicPost642540

Note that Snow is the ONLY thing in the frame not blurry.  Probably some sort of double exposure.

Dr. M

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Fuji and LPP put it at least after 1983... Interesting use of the word "reissue," as well. That makes me think that it is a restored copy. From some polls I've read on different film-collecting fora, the reissue/remastered early '90s copy is the print most collectors seek out.