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The Austria BD of the Argento Cut of Dawn of the Dead really looks.. bad.

(Okay the French BD looks not really good, either.) (Here is a comparison)

 

In Hong Kong and Germany are BDs of Bruce Lee Movies released.

Here (at caps-a-holic) is a comparison between the UK Platinum DVD and the German BD of 'Fist of Fury' (others will follow). The Hong Kong BD looks exactly the same. The HK just is region coded A  but differs in Audio and subtitling:

BDInfo says:

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description    
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DTS-HD Master Audio             Chinese         2434 kbps       7.1 / 48 kHz / 2434 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit)
Dolby TrueHD Audio              Chinese         1820 kbps       7.1 / 48 kHz / 1820 kbps / 16-bit (AC3 Embedded: 5.1-EX / 48 kHz / 640 kbps / DN -4dB)
Dolby Digital EX Audio          Chinese         640 kbps        5.1-EX / 48 kHz / 640 kbps / DN -4dB
Dolby Digital EX Audio          Thai            640 kbps        5.1-EX / 48 kHz / 640 kbps / DN -4dB

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description    
-----                           --------        -------         -----------    
Presentation Graphics           English         16,674 kbps                    
Presentation Graphics           Chinese         23,886 kbps                    
Presentation Graphics           Thai            20,995 kbps

"I kill Gandalf." - Igor, Dork Tower

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I was just looking for Bruce Lee movies on BD, but I do not want them if they do not have English Dub, and if they look no different than the DVD.

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The German BDs have english Dub, but no english sub. And I would say that the BDs not look like the DVDs.

Here is a comparison between german BD and UK DVD for "The Big Boss" the upcoming comparison may be "Game of Death"

The same look have the BDs from Hong Kong and the BDs from Germany of "Game of Death", "Fist of Fury", "The Way of the Dragon" and "The Big Boss"

"I kill Gandalf." - Igor, Dork Tower

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Thanks MrBrown, So the German BD's have English Dub just no subs(which is fine by me, I do not read my movies LOL) and it does look like there is a big difference between the DVD's and BD's, so this Set here should do me good, and it says it is uncut, I wonder what was cut before? the only thing is, it is missing Enter The Dragon, but I have the US release of that already.

http://www.amazon.de/Bruce-Lee-Kollektion-exklusiv-Amazon/dp/B0055IYUYE/ref=sr_1_1?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1315147732&sr=1-1

Thanks for being SO helpful in these non US releases.

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"The Big Boss" is still as cut as worldwide releases are.

"Enter the Dragon" is not in this set, because it is distributed by Warner not Universum Films. I ordered the german Warner BD also, just to check if the HK BD is different...

The four Bruce Lee movies where long time "inidziert" in Germany, no sale to persons under 18, not allowed to be put in normal Warehouses, where minors cut see, even just the boxes. The Versions where also heavenly cutted, and for the first time they are uncuted on digital media in Germany. So the big "uncut" textings are just regarding to german releases ;)

Now the uncut Versions are rated "FSK 16" in Germany.

 

Its quite funny, last year some old Movies which where indiziert long time are from the list and often with a lower rating than 18.

"I kill Gandalf." - Igor, Dork Tower

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It has been a LONG time since I watched any of these, what was so bad that the Germans had to cut out? do you remember? so in your opinion the German Box Set is pretty good deal? because it seems to be the only one that offers English.

1 more thing, do you have that German Box Set? and if so, are you certain that the English audio is indeed on them? Thanks again.

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I never saw the movies before I got them on blu, so I never saw the cutted versions. But In the time the movies came out it was very common to cut asian movies in germany. Often it where some hits in fights. Some cuts in the Bruce Lee Movies where just ridiculus. Like at the end fight in "Way of the Dragon", where a shot of the little kitten is missing, while the two are warming up.

Don't try to understand german cutting or rating. :)

I own the german BD Box set and the Hong Kong BD Box Set, so I can assure that the image quality is exactly the same, and that all 4 in the german Box set contain english audio. (All except Game of Death have english 2.0 mono. Game of death has english 7.1 DTS-HD MA)

There is just a HD Trailer before menu starting.

The only extras are SD Trailers of the movies.

I don't know if there are english menues avaible, but if not and you have problems with the settings, just ask ;)

 

With the price about 35 € for 4 BDs it was not a bad deal. (Okay, I had no shipping costs due to living in Germany :D ) For me the point was having german audio, I bought the HK Box few month before it was announced in germany. Regarding quality, I think there will not be a better Version out soon, if ever. The only thing I miss are good extra features.

 

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now the "Game of Death" BD vs. DVD comparison ist avaible.

 

Edit #2:

With "With the price about 35 € for 4 BDs it was not a bad deal." I meant, I considered it a good deal. ;)

"I kill Gandalf." - Igor, Dork Tower

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Thanks a TON for all that very helpful info, now to figure out how to get these bad boys the cheapest, I think that is the only German interest I have at the moment, besides the VERY COOL Fast & Furious 5 SteelBook, and I just scored a MINT SteelBook of RZ's Halloween for cheap, now I just need to get the UK version of H2 for the Theatrical of that.

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After a note at form at blu-ray.com, I checked:

Fist of Fury german BD has a defect in the english audio: the first (exactly) 7 minutes of the english audio track are not in english, but in chinese :( I just checked into the movie after credits, so I missed it, and just listened to minutes after.

I Wrote a Message to Universum Film, if a corrected Version is planned... I will Inform you if they answer...

Regarding RZ H2: I got the Austria Limited BD with both Versions on One Disc, but I may not Tell, if quality between UK and AT differs or is the same, because I have no Version to compare... Could you check Bitrate with BDInfo, if you get it?

"I kill Gandalf." - Igor, Dork Tower

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regarding Bruce Lee Movies:

I have to apologize!
It was my fault, that this was stated Region ABC!
I don't know what I mixed up in my mind, I am still sure I saw ABC Logo on the Box or Cover! Don't know what my mind was up to :( If I didn't just checked, if they where playable in English without subtitling, I would still believe in Region ABC :(

My PC is still saying, that he could not get any Region information.

"I kill Gandalf." - Igor, Dork Tower

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Anyone actually ever see the official DVD of the legend of billie jean, it got a region 2 dvd in 2009 in Spain.

Supposed to be open matte 4:3 and in English mono as a second track.

Somewhere i have a rotter of the HD2DVD Dark Jedi made, that was widescreen 1:85:1 i think.

“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.

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skyjedi2005 said:

Anyone actually ever see the official DVD of the legend of billie jean, it got a region 2 dvd in 2009 in Spain.

Supposed to be open matte 4:3 and in English mono as a second track.

Somewhere i have a rotter of the HD2DVD Dark Jedi made, that was widescreen 1:85:1 i think.

Why not download a 720p or 1080i demux of this movie and make a Blu-ray or AVCHD out of it? Don't want to and too lazy? TOO FUCKING BAD CHAP!

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skyjedi2005 said:

Somewhere i have a rotter of the HD2DVD Dark Jedi made, that was widescreen 1:85:1 i think.

How do you store your DVD's?  I don't think I've ever had a burned disc go bad.

Dr. M

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Again I have still to apologize for my out of brain day, when I assume, the german Bruce Lee Box would be egion B. I still don't know how I even thought of it. Not to mention, that I was so sure, I would have vowed an oath on this.

 

But back to topic:

I compared the german (european) BD of "Enter the Dragon" with the Hong Kong release:

Hon Gong release features the original Chinese written intro, DTS-HD Chinese Audio. A bit more screen. But:

The image quality is someway worse than the Warner BD:

Loosing details in darker scenes. Colors seem a bit odd. General a bit worse details...

It is just a nice to have because of the chinese intro sequence, but definitly no upgrade in quality to the european BD :(

 

The only thing is that the HK does not suffer from the fine jaggies , the european Bd suffering from.

 

Both BDs far away from being perfect...

..so for your own judgement: A comparison (the jaggies in europea, warner version, best shown in screen #07)

"I kill Gandalf." - Igor, Dork Tower

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I dont' know if "Cemetary Man" (Dellamorte Dellamore) is out on blu in USA, but I think it is not.

Well, there is a german BD from '84 Entertainment with English and german audio and german subs and no bonus, and there is a Bd from italy with english and italian audio and much italian languaged bonus features.

Both Discs are region B.. and.. the German Disc hat real bad PQ.. compared to the italian BD.

IF you want to buy the movie, don't buy the german disc!

"I kill Gandalf." - Igor, Dork Tower

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The Italian Blu of "The Big Lebowski" ist not so DNR'ed, like the german (european) BluRay from Universal. Maybe Universal using the same BD Master worldwide, but the Italian Version is more like the older, better looking HD-DVD.


The italian Bd seems to be Region free also. It just contain italian subs, but english and italian audio.

"I kill Gandalf." - Igor, Dork Tower

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While the US BD of Hellraiser 3 is not avaible, yet, as far as I know, the japanese BD Box set with the first 3 movies is.

I hope that the US will get a new transfer of Hellraiser 3 movie, and not, as the Hellraiser 1 BD, a more filtered one than japan.

Additionally: Hellraiser 3 jap. BD is just 93 min. running time: that point towards the r-rated Version.

To be honest: the japanese Bd of Hellraiser 3 is not worth to buy:

comparison: ger DVD vs. jp. BD

 

Oh, and why I mentioned that the US BD of Hellraiser 1 is a bit more filtered:

comparison: US BD vs. jap. BD

The jap. BD instead has some scratches which where filtered away in the US release...

"I kill Gandalf." - Igor, Dork Tower

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OK MrBrown, new project added to my list of BD projects LOL, I just got my German Bruce Lee Box Set, so I am obviously going to use the video from this Set, and the DTS 2.0, but then I am going to add the DTS 5.1 from my DVD Box Set, and fix that 7+ minute audio error you mentioned on the Game of Death BD, so then I will be 100% happy with my Bruce Lee BD's.

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do you need the english subtitles for this movies? I could rip them from the Hong Kong set.

 

Regarding Scream: Until now there are no words that the new release won't be the unrated. I preordered the trilogy set, so I may tell for sure after they are released...

"I kill Gandalf." - Igor, Dork Tower

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Thanks, but I won't need any subs, never will use them anyways, I hate reading movies.

I thought that the uncut version of Scream was a separate German release, I didn't think it would be the same version in the Trilogy release, but either way, Thanks for keeping me posted.

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If all informations on the upcoming Scream release are correct, we will have a single Disc Edition with the unrated Version of Scream 1, also a 3 Disc Edition with the trilogy. Containing the new unrated Disc and a "remastered" Scream 2 Disc.

Both will be released in December.

After the second scream was messed up on BD in germany (wrong aspect ratio), the second Scream also gets a remastered version in germany (maybe they use the US master, or they do a new..).

 

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The FSK stated, that the Running time of the Scream release will be  106:41 Min. (but it don't tell if DVD or BD.. but it seems to be the PAL speeded upped DVD..)

"I kill Gandalf." - Igor, Dork Tower

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Well that sounds good, you said you are getting the Trilogy? let me know if it is truly the uncut version, I ordered the Kinowelt DVD years ago with the understanding it was the uncut version, and when I got it, it was not, so I am not going to make the same mistake twice, I will wait and see what you say, so if I understand you correctly, you ar saying that the Trilogy will have this,

Uncut version of Scream (so if this is true, finally uncut version is good quality)
Remastered version of Scream 2 (this should look a lot better than our US version correct?)
Scream 3 (probably same version all releases have)

also any extras on this Set?

Thanks again MrBrown, you are very helpful!

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Scream 3 seems to get the same release as everytime.

Scream 2 is stated to be remastered. But AFAIK the GERMAN Disc was messed up with the aspect ratio. So it is rematered according to the old german Disc. that could be, that they just use the US master. So we have to wait for the release. I will post pics after I got it.

Scream 1 is a bit hard to sort out. "Uncut" just says, that one official Version is not additionally cutted. The r-rated Version is also an uncut Version in germany. The "cut" version was FSK 16, also there was a cutted FSK 18 Version in Germany. the uncut r-rated Version WAS indiziert Kinowelt also released the unrated Version, wich was also indiziert, but did nod had an FSK rating.

After some reorganisation Movies rated FSK18 now can nopt be indiziert. Old FSK18 rated movies still could be indiziert.

Scream 1 was deleted from the list of the indizierten movies in 2011, and NOW the uncut Version with following running times:

at 25 fps:106Min. 41Sek.
at 24 fps:110Min. 34Sek.

is now rated FSK16

So you have really be carefull wich Version you order, if you order ;) The old Verisons are released by "Kinowelt" the new release in december is from "StudioCanal" and has the red FSK18 logo, due to some bonus features, which got no FSK16 rating.

The Set contains the same extras as the normal single releases, nothing more.

I pay about 26 € for the trilogy set, while Scream 1 single Disc is for about 16 €, also I need the better Scream 2 Disc, because I just own the old german BD.

The extras seem to be the extras from the old releases, nothing new. :(

"I kill Gandalf." - Igor, Dork Tower

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Thanks again for all that info, as I said, I will wait until you verify that it is uncut or not, which really only amounts to seconds LOL, because like I said above, I got burned buying that Kinowelt DVD, it was definitely not uncut, as I was thinking, but was probably uncut for that particular Country.

I ordered a Total Recall SteelBook a while back, and they claimed it was uncut, well I learned then that it was truly uncut for that Country, but it was the same cut that We in the US have always had, so I have learned that just because a Foreign Country claims their release to by "uncut" or "uncensored" this does not necessarily mean it is this for us in the US, and I am thinking that is exactly what the deal is with Scream, but I hope you prove me wrong.

Thanks