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how much did you pay for them?
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I'd choose a set transferred by someone who cares about the movie over a profit driven bootlegger any day of the week, but what we all really need to see is a screenshot comparison. I can host the images, if that's any incentive.

TR47, I've tried contacting you via PMs and email, but I've yet to recieve any reply. Shall I try again, or are you just not interested in dealing with a Brit?
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I paied $70.00 for the dvds themselves and an additional $10.00 for shipping and handling. I also boght a "Revenge of the Jedi" podster that was pretty cheap, but I am out of cash right now.
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Are any of these boots truly anamorphic? The question keeps getting asked but there hasn't been a definitive answer.
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All you new guys need to upload some personalized icons, I'm getting confused who is who.
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I don't think Jay has fixed that feature yet.
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Mine are 16:9. I wouldn't call them true anamorphic because I believe that is a special process that only the major studios can do. Also, I don't think you gain a lot of vertical resolution. You do end up with black bars that look much better than the LD ones because they are pure black and there is no analog noise in them. This method would also work for VHS. I would not use this method on pan&scan sources though. Just use widescreen.

Here is what I did and anyone can do if they have an encoder capable of 16:9 support:

1. Captured the video at 720x480 (Mine are NTSC). If you have PAL, you would capture at 720x576.
2. Took video after editing and loaded into TMPNGEnc Plus encoder and chose 16:9 for the aspect ratio of the output video. I left the source video at 4:3 525 Line (NTSC). Others I know used 4:3 525 Line (704x480 NTSC). I don't think there is much difference between the two because the image is going to be converted.
3. Also in TMPNGEnc, I chose Full Screen (Keep Aspect Ratio) for video arrange method. This keeps the aspect ratio of the video without distorting it.
4. I went to the clip frame filter in TMPNGEnc and clipped all of the black bars off of the top and bottom.

By doing those steps, I achieve an image that is 16:9 and retains the 2.35:1 aspect ratio of the movie when played on a 16:9 TV. I've tested my DVD-R on a 16:9 TV and the results were that the image was displayed correctly just like on my 4:3 TV. On the 16:9 TV there were no black bars on the sides (only the top and bottom).

The image is correctly displayed on a 4:3 TV because there is a flag set by the encoder that the player follows depending on how it is set up. If you have a 4:3 TV, make sure your DVD Player is setup to play 4:3. If you have a 16:9 TV, make sure the player is set to 16:9. So basically, the DVD Player will convert the image according to how it is set up so that it will display the image correctly. However, you will also need to have a video that is output for 16:9 to play it correctly on a 16:9 TV. If you don't, the image will not fill the sides without using the zoom function or stretching the image.

I could post some screenshots if I have a space. I also need to figure out how to do it again. I've tried to take snapshots in Windows Media Player, but they don't come out right in Paint. There's a way to do it. I just have to read up on it.

I do encourage people who have the equipment to try and make their own DVD's instead of purchasing bootlegs. It is a pain to do at first, but the results are satisfying when it all comes together. Mine have the movies spread across two discs each. However, I plan to go back and make single disc versions when I can get the audio compressed with a lossless codec like AC-3. I'm also looking at the possibility of buying a dual layered DVD Writer when they come out and prove theirselves. There is talk of those writers coming out, but no one knows exactly when.

I was wondering if we could have another section of the forum to post all of this technical information. I would also encourage everyone to check out www.dvdrhelp.com for technical questions that require lengthy answers. That way, we aren't using up too much of Jay's bandwidth here.

Patrick
"When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk." - Tuco from The Good, The Bad And The Ugly
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Is there any chance that you can share those DVDs with others? Like myself? I can't make them myself since I don't have a LD Player or a capture card, otherwise I sure would. Getting them in Anamorphic (sort of) Widescreen would be a dream come true. Which version did you use? The Definitive Collection?
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I'm not sending outside the US at this point, I posted something about this on another topic. If you want a screenshot comparison between my set and the crappy asian set, check it out: (I'm sure you can figure out which is which)

http://atlas.imagemagician.com/images/tapix/swshots.JPG


Originally posted by: terryhan
I'd choose a set transferred by someone who cares about the movie over a profit driven bootlegger any day of the week, but what we all really need to see is a screenshot comparison. I can host the images, if that's any incentive.

TR47, I've tried contacting you via PMs and email, but I've yet to recieve any reply. Shall I try again, or are you just not interested in dealing with a Brit?


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If the picture you posted matches the one you have on DVD your framing is about 2.55:1 and the Asian is about 2.33:1 which is a lot closer to the original 2.35:1. Do you have the item available in 16:9 Widescreen or with some extras?
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This is what mine looks like. It doesn't look as TK47's because I used a lighter setting when I encoded.

http://www.geocities.com/krycek1205/cap003.jpg

I do think mine looks better than the Asian set with the exception of the dot crawl on the planet.

Here is a picture of what my subtitles look like.

http://www.geocities.com/krycek1205/cap005.jpg

Mine aren't perfect by any means, but they will get me by without having to buy the SE only DVD Set.
I may go back and redo them when I get a few things figured out. I like TK47's image. What was used to capture the video with? I have an ADVC-100.

I tried by putting the pictures up on a Geocities page, but I see they are still not working here.
If you want to see them, you can follow this link. Pictures

Patrick
"When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk." - Tuco from The Good, The Bad And The Ugly
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I don't know if it is the same with the rest on this forum but I can't see the pictures from Patrick R.
Can you copy your DVDs and sell them to me Patrick R.?
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Patrick, you need to upload your images somewhere for us to see them. From what I can tell, you've given us the address of where they're stored on your D:/ drive, which no-one, apart from you, can access.
If you can't find anywhere to host them, I could do it for a while. My email address is in my profile.

TR47, yours do look much improved over the bootlegs - it's a little difficult to tell about the cropping, since it looks like the two shots were taken at slightly different times. TR47, sorry about me emailing you, btw. I didn't realise you weren't sending the discs overseas. I hope you reconsider sometime, though

dcsantangelo2005, if there's any way for you to show us some pictures from your bootleg copy (if it's different from the one TR47 has access to), I'm sure we'd all be interested to see them. Again, if hosting is a problem, my offer of hosting applies.
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The cropping/framing is the same, they were taken in different file formats originally then combined into 1 JPG by me. I didn't capture the pictures so I can't offer any other info about them. I have seen every asian set of Star Wars in existence and they are terrible in comparison to what the actual LDs look like, especially the 2 non SE versions out there. The "5 star" version is ok but they cranked the brightness and contrast and because of that they look poor. Trust me, my set is far better than the one DCS bought. As far as extras I have a 4th DVD with all the extras from the '93 LD set, so it is complete. PM me if you are interested.
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I hope everyone can see the pictures now. Sorry about that earlier. I can also resize them if they are too big.


Patrick


"When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk." - Tuco from The Good, The Bad And The Ugly
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Hey everyone I just went to ebay and the ORIGINAL 77, 80, and 83 versions are up for sale!! There are four or five of them and they are $60.00, if you want to get them just type in star wars dvds and they should come up. Don't miss your chance to own the TRUE versions of these movies!!
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I wish I had money, because that works out to like $90 Canadian
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this could be an idea...
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Is member 'Luke Skywalker' still planning on making DVDs for everyone?

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im not sure...
"The ability to speak does not make you intelligent."
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I've got the Asian one's with the bad lip sync on ESB and a little on ROTJ. I'll be getting a dvd writer soon and I'll certainly supply copies for a fair price if anyone is interested. I might even try re-encoding them and sort the lip sync at a later date as well. Stay tuned.
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Was anyone able to go to the link and see my pictures?


Patrick
"When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk." - Tuco from The Good, The Bad And The Ugly
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I can see your pix on the thread and through the link now. Thanks for uploading them.
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id be interested eros.
"The ability to speak does not make you intelligent."
Qui-Gon Jinn (R.I.P.)