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Unless it is against the rules and I will be banned for doing so, I will continue to use BR, I despise the acronyms BD and BRD.

Please note, I'm open to being convinced (but not flamed) otherwise, however just a few days ago I solidified my opinion on BR vs BD vs BRD.

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skoal said:

Just in case anyone's interested Moonwalker was released on BR in NA, in censored form.

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Moonwalker-Blu-ray/15956/

 I looked through the screenshots over there and they are amazing. Looks like it was given a proper transfer and I'm trying to figure out why you state that the release is "in censored form" as that's not mentioned anywhere in the reviews. Am I missing something here or are you aware of something they missed?

EDIT: nevermind the question... sorry... forgot google is my friend;o)

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skoal said:

Unless it is against the rules and I will be banned for doing so, I will continue to use BR, I despise the acronyms BD and BRD.

Please note, I'm open to being convinced (but not flamed) otherwise, however just a few days ago I solidified my opinion on BR vs BD vs BRD.

Official Website:

http://blu-raydisc.com/en/Industry/BDLicensing/BDLogoLicensing.aspx

BD-RE white paper:

http://www.blu-raydisc.com/Assets/Downloadablefile/BD-RE_Part3_V3.0_WhitePaper-18193.pdf

This document describes the overview of "System Description Blu-ray Disc Rewritable Format Part 3: Audio Visual Basic Specifications Version 3.0" (hereafter BD-RE Part 3 V3.0)

Recordable Blu-ray discs are BD-Rs

Rewritable Blu-ray discs are BD-REs

Advanced authoring using Java is known as BD-J

Internet connectivity is marketed as BD-Live

You will also come across references to BD-ROM, BDMV, BDAV...

HTH.

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It was released on Blu-ray in censored form in the UK, not North America. I don't believe the U.S./Canada ever got a Blu-ray (hell, did we even get a DVD?!)

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Unfortunately, you're wrong, Moonwalker BR was released in NA (Mexico) in censored form.

TServo2049 said:

It was released on Blu-ray in censored form in the UK, not North America. I don't believe the U.S./Canada ever got a Blu-ray (hell, did we even get a DVD?!)

 

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Oh, I see. I get it, I guess they just got the same version as the UK.

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The Moonwalker NA/Mexico censored BR release is probably the same as the UK, however I'm not 100%. If you haven't already guessed, I have the NA/Mexico BR release. Cheers!

TServo2049 said:

Oh, I see. I get it, I guess they just got the same version as the UK.

 

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skoal said:

Please note, I'm open to being convinced (but not flamed) otherwise, however just a few days ago I solidified my opinion on BR vs BD vs BRD.

I'm not sure what issue you may have with “BD,” but your use of “BR” as an acronym for blu-rays is, quite simply, factually incorrect. The acronym is “BD,” and has been since the inception of the format.

Every single commercially available Blu-ray has a stylized “BD” logo on it somewhere. It looks like this.

“That’s impossible, even for a computer!”

“You don't do ‘Star Wars’ in Dobly.”

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StarThoughts said:

skoal said:

Please note, I'm open to being convinced (but not flamed) otherwise, however just a few days ago I solidified my opinion on BR vs BD vs BRD.

I'm not sure what issue you may have with “BD,” but your use of “BR” as an acronym for blu-rays is, quite simply, factually incorrect. The acronym is “BD,” and has been since the inception of the format.

Every single commercially available Blu-ray has a stylized “BD” logo on it somewhere. It looks like this.

Thank you and DVD-BOY, BR just sounds completely stupid! but I am sure he will continue saying BR LMAO because of his "issue".

Thanks again for the facts and links, I am now done with this dude especially since he just joined 3 days ago.

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Will I get banned for this? Is this trolling?

I wasn't being mean towards you nor did I have issue with you. I also didn't mean to get on your bad side, however I don't think the fault lies with me and you just seem hostile. So I joined 3 days ago, what is that supposed to imply/mean?

So quick-to-judge and quick-to-dismiss. What a world we live in.

dark_jedi said:

Thank you and DVD-BOY, BR just sounds completely stupid! but I am sure he will continue saying BR LMAO because of his "issue".

Thanks again for the facts and links, I am now done with this dude especially since he just joined 3 days ago.

 

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But the fault does lie with you… you're the one insisting on using your own made-up acronym for something that already has one. DVD-BOY demonstrated that the correct acronym is well-established legally and commercially, and as I pointed out, the acronym you're refusing to use appears on the spine of almost every single commercial Blu-ray ever produced.

Whatever your reasons for disliking the acronym for BD are your own foibles, and have nothing to do with anybody else. The resistance you're seeing is because it's silly to just show up somewhere (particularly a message board as technically-oriented as this one), start using your own personal terminology nobody else uses, and not expect to be called out on it.

“That’s impossible, even for a computer!”

“You don't do ‘Star Wars’ in Dobly.”

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Nyeah, I once left out the "-" when referring to BD-Rs, here. Big mistake. It was jumped on immediately. I've hated myself ever since.

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StarThoughts said:

... you're the one insisting on using your own made-up acronym ...

I didn't know you were the authority on acronyms, nor did I know there was an authority-at-all on acronyms.

I will say there is truth to having acronyms be understood, however we're commenting on BD vs BR on originaltrillogy.com. With the context provided, if you didn't understand I meant Blu-Ray with BR, then you're not as intelligent as I thought.

You can reply to this post, however I will refrain because this has now gone off-topic.

Go have a nice day.

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BR will for me always be a HTML line break, or an acronym for "Best Regards"

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skoal said:

StarThoughts said:

... you're the one insisting on using your own made-up acronym ...

I didn't know you were the authority on acronyms, nor did I know there was an authority-at-all on acronyms.

I'm not… but neither are you. In case you missed the point DVD-BOY and I were making, the “BD” acronym was established by the companies that developed the technology, and is the accepted acronym for the format. That's been the case for years before you “solidified your opinion on BR vs BD vs BRD” (whatever that means) and isn't really open for debate.

I will say there is truth to having acronyms be understood, however we're commenting on BD vs BR on originaltrillogy.com. With the context provided, if you didn't understand I meant Blu-Ray with BR, then you're not as intelligent as I thought.

No, I'm pretty dumb. I tend to use words and terms that I know other people will recognize, because it's my understanding that is how this whole “language” thing works.

You can reply to this post, however I will refrain because this has now gone off-topic.

Go have a nice day.

Aw shucks, I was hoping that you could actually give your reasons for despising the acronyms “BD” and “BRD” (I'm sure they're very amusing), but thank you very much for the last word.

And I shall indeed have a very nice day.

“That’s impossible, even for a computer!”

“You don't do ‘Star Wars’ in Dobly.”

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To bring this back on topic, was there any commercial release or otherwise of Bruce Broughton's score, aside from the suite conducted by Erich Kunzel contained on the Telarc Fantastic Journey CD?

“That’s impossible, even for a computer!”

“You don't do ‘Star Wars’ in Dobly.”

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StarThoughts said:


I'm not sure what issue you may have with “BD,” but your use of “BR” as an acronym for blu-rays is, quite simply, factually incorrect. The acronym is “BD,” and has been since the inception of the format.

You're incorrect on two points. #1 - BR is an abbreviation of Blu-ray, and BD is one of two possible abbreviations of Blu-ray Disc, and #2 an acronym is an abbreviation made from the first letter of each word that can be said either as a word or as letters, for example "ASAP", BD, BRD, and BR all fail to produce a clearly vocalised word, thus they are not acronyms (unless of course you're suggesting you can say BR as "burr").

There is nothing incorrect about writing "BR disc", just like there's nothing wrong with writing "DVD disc", the only thing that you can't do is write "CD disc" since that duplicates the word the same as in "ATM machine".

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Every single commercially available Blu-ray has a stylized “BD” logo on it somewhere. It looks like this.

So what? I can show you DVDs that have "digital versatile disc" printed on them, or in some cases on the cover, even though DVD doesn't stand for anything.

[ Scanning stuff since 2015 ]

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Let's drop the format name abbreviation argument, or move it to off topic, please?

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I wanted to ask:

I have found an HDTV version in a russian tracker.

It's 6,56 GB in size.

Does anyone know if that version is also censored?

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StarThoughts said:

To bring this back on topic, was there any commercial release or otherwise of Bruce Broughton's score, aside from the suite conducted by Erich Kunzel contained on the Telarc Fantastic Journey CD?

 I don't know if there was a commercial release, but I feel like I remember some of the fan sites having a score you could download.

EDIT: A ha! I thought so... Not sure the source, but it should be what you're after.

https://mega.co.nz/#!204n3DQK!hXOyHzpmwL11NklWtLSiIa7QZeSRaSxND9ppXIYtt7w

titanic said:

I wanted to ask:

I have found an HDTV version in a russian tracker.

It's 6,56 GB in size.

Does anyone know if that version is also censored?

 Not sure, but I'd guess they used the same HD master which is probably edited. Might be worth checking out.

The colour timing on the bluray is really out there, VERY cold. But it's worth it to see that incredible Man in the Mirror performance in HD.

Here's hoping they'll one day spruce up more of the MJ back catalogue in HD.

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  • There's a Japanese Wowow 1080i cap of Ghosts on Usenet. The subtitles are in the 4/3 safe area so can be removed.
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x5gb said:

  • There's a Japanese Wowow 1080i cap of Ghosts on Usenet. The subtitles are in the 4/3 safe area so can be removed.

 I've got a copy. It's definitely an HD scan, but it hasn't been colour timed (like at all). Very flat looking. But still nice to have.

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Still a bit of a downer for the edited part, reading the Blu-Ray(dot)com review makes it sound like they made “Mr. Big” sound less convincing a villain for downplaying the abusive nature and the drug angle. He’s just bad because he’s bad, without a reason, but who knows why that decision was made. Not that this is grounds for a possible fan-edited release to restore those missing frames, but I’m sure it’s quite minuscule a task for such a deserving film that certainly deserved a little more in the ‘extras’ department than the barebones trailer they included.

woodsyallen said:

StarThoughts said:

To bring this back on topic, was there any commercial release or otherwise of Bruce Broughton’s score, aside from the suite conducted by Erich Kunzel contained on the Telarc Fantastic Journey CD?

I don’t know if there was a commercial release, but I feel like I remember some of the fan sites having a score you could download.

EDIT: A ha! I thought so… Not sure the source, but it should be what you’re after.

https://mega.co.nz/#!204n3DQK!hXOyHzpmwL11NklWtLSiIa7QZeSRaSxND9ppXIYtt7w

titanic said:

I wanted to ask:

I have found an HDTV version in a russian tracker.

It’s 6,56 GB in size.

Does anyone know if that version is also censored?

Not sure, but I’d guess they used the same HD master which is probably edited. Might be worth checking out.

The colour timing on the bluray is really out there, VERY cold. But it’s worth it to see that incredible Man in the Mirror performance in HD.

Here’s hoping they’ll one day spruce up more of the MJ back catalogue in HD.