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Mango said:

The 60th Anniversary blu-ray of Psycho is nice in that its the uncut version, but the mono mix on it is just a downscale of the DTS X mix which is rather disappointing as the 50th Anniversary bluray had the original mono mix.

Universal corrected this. They issued replacement discs.

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crissrudd4554 said:

Mango said:

The 60th Anniversary blu-ray of Psycho is nice in that its the uncut version, but the mono mix on it is just a downscale of the DTS X mix which is rather disappointing as the 50th Anniversary bluray had the original mono mix.

Universal corrected this. They issued replacement discs.

Yea after like two tries, first try was a different coded disk but used the same downmix, the second corrected disk has the true mono track

I got lucky and just got the second batch

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SpacemanDoug said:

crissrudd4554 said:

Mango said:

The 60th Anniversary blu-ray of Psycho is nice in that its the uncut version, but the mono mix on it is just a downscale of the DTS X mix which is rather disappointing as the 50th Anniversary bluray had the original mono mix.

Universal corrected this. They issued replacement discs.

Yea after like two tries, first try was a different coded disk but used the same downmix, the second corrected disk has the true mono track

I know.

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crissrudd4554 said:

Mango said:

The 60th Anniversary blu-ray of Psycho is nice in that its the uncut version, but the mono mix on it is just a downscale of the DTS X mix which is rather disappointing as the 50th Anniversary bluray had the original mono mix.

Universal corrected this. They issued replacement discs.

Have the Alfred Hitchcock 4-film 4K & BD set and I never got the replacement discs from Universal for Psycho after doing the process four times. Bought the individual release a couple months ago, checked both discs on the data side, and were the corrected mono track.

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What’s the deal with The Godfather (and Part II) in regards to their theatrical sound mixes? I’ve noticed that my Region 2 Blu-ray of the Coppola Restoration contains the remastered audio track as the only option, but I’ve heard that the Region 1 releases include tracks of the theatrical audio. Any reason why the original audio tracks would be limited to the North America release only? Just curious.

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The UHD of A Clockwork Orange does include the original mono mix, which Blu-Ray.com’s reviewer preferred over the 5.1 remix (which on this disc sounds awful).

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cryloh said:

What’s the deal with The Godfather (and Part II) in regards to their theatrical sound mixes? I’ve noticed that my Region 2 Blu-ray of the Coppola Restoration contains the remastered audio track as the only option, but I’ve heard that the Region 1 releases include tracks of the theatrical audio. Any reason why the original audio tracks would be limited to the North America release only? Just curious.

That’s actually a thing I’ve noticed in a lot of instances

US disks would include original mixes as a second option but their European counterparts would exclude them (Chinatown, Duel, The Omen, etc.), even though I’ve also noticed in Australian releases they would reflect the US disks

My guess is because they wanna save room for more foreign dubs because of the amount of different languages in that territory compared to the US and Australia where people primarily speak English

And btw as someone who owns the US disks of The Godfather, the mono tracks are indeed the authentic theatrical mixes and they’re region free so you could just as easily import them

Raccoons

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cryloh said:

What’s the deal with The Godfather (and Part II) in regards to their theatrical sound mixes? I’ve noticed that my Region 2 Blu-ray of the Coppola Restoration contains the remastered audio track as the only option, but I’ve heard that the Region 1 releases include tracks of the theatrical audio. Any reason why the original audio tracks would be limited to the North America release only? Just curious.

FYI, there’s no such thing as Region 1 or 2 for Blu-ray disc. Region A and B is there instead, of course.

SpacemanDoug said:

That’s actually a thing I’ve noticed in a lot of instances

US disks would include original mixes as a second option but their European counterparts would exclude them (Chinatown, Duel, The Omen, etc.), even though I’ve also noticed in Australian releases they would reflect the US disks

My guess is because they wanna save room for more foreign dubs because of the amount of different languages in that territory compared to the US and Australia where people primarily speak English

And btw as someone who owns the US disks of The Godfather, the mono tracks are indeed the authentic theatrical mixes and they’re region free so you could just as easily import them

The USA BD boxset for The GodFather has gone through a few different designs and the discs remain the same. I own one of the more current redesigns for the packaging of the USA boxset.

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AdmiralWasabi10191 said:

cryloh said:

What’s the deal with The Godfather (and Part II) in regards to their theatrical sound mixes? I’ve noticed that my Region 2 Blu-ray of the Coppola Restoration contains the remastered audio track as the only option, but I’ve heard that the Region 1 releases include tracks of the theatrical audio. Any reason why the original audio tracks would be limited to the North America release only? Just curious.

FYI, there’s no such thing as Region 1 or 2 for Blu-ray disc. Region A and B is there instead, of course.

SpacemanDoug said:

That’s actually a thing I’ve noticed in a lot of instances

US disks would include original mixes as a second option but their European counterparts would exclude them (Chinatown, Duel, The Omen, etc.), even though I’ve also noticed in Australian releases they would reflect the US disks

My guess is because they wanna save room for more foreign dubs because of the amount of different languages in that territory compared to the US and Australia where people primarily speak English

And btw as someone who owns the US disks of The Godfather, the mono tracks are indeed the authentic theatrical mixes and they’re region free so you could just as easily import them

The USA BD boxset for The GodFather has gone through a few different designs and the discs remain the same. I own one of the more current redesigns for the packaging of the USA boxset.

Those masters were also released on DVD so he’s possibly referring to the DVD set of those masters from Europe

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CourtlyHades296 said:

The UHD of A Clockwork Orange does include the original mono mix, which Blu-Ray.com’s reviewer preferred over the 5.1 remix (which on this disc sounds awful).

but with a lossy dolby 192 kbps

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SpacemanDoug said:

AdmiralWasabi10191 said:

cryloh said:

What’s the deal with The Godfather (and Part II) in regards to their theatrical sound mixes? I’ve noticed that my Region 2 Blu-ray of the Coppola Restoration contains the remastered audio track as the only option, but I’ve heard that the Region 1 releases include tracks of the theatrical audio. Any reason why the original audio tracks would be limited to the North America release only? Just curious.

FYI, there’s no such thing as Region 1 or 2 for Blu-ray disc. Region A and B is there instead, of course.

SpacemanDoug said:

That’s actually a thing I’ve noticed in a lot of instances

US disks would include original mixes as a second option but their European counterparts would exclude them (Chinatown, Duel, The Omen, etc.), even though I’ve also noticed in Australian releases they would reflect the US disks

My guess is because they wanna save room for more foreign dubs because of the amount of different languages in that territory compared to the US and Australia where people primarily speak English

And btw as someone who owns the US disks of The Godfather, the mono tracks are indeed the authentic theatrical mixes and they’re region free so you could just as easily import them

The USA BD boxset for The GodFather has gone through a few different designs and the discs remain the same. I own one of the more current redesigns for the packaging of the USA boxset.

Those masters were also released on DVD so he’s possibly referring to the DVD set of those masters from Europe

He did type Region 1 Blu-ray and Region 2 Blu-ray which Blu-ray disc dropped the numbers for the regions and just went for A, B, C. But a lot of us knew that. Must have been a carry over regarding typing a lot about DVDs.

Received Spaceballs 4K+BD from the Kino Lorber sale yesterday and still not sure if the 2.0 tracks are dual mono or not and if it’s a downmix of the 5.1 track that’s on there. DVDCompare.net states there’s two portions of audio missing but doesn’t state which tracks are affected. Below is copy pasted from the site.

  • When Princess Vespa says "Nobody talks to me that way. “Nobody!” and shouts “NOBODY!” in the desert, it lacks the additional echoes afterward.
  • Dot Matrix’s line of “Ohh! No Vespa! Don’t! Vespa!” before Dark Helmet tricks Vespa is missing (although subtitles for this line are present).

PsyKovic said:

CourtlyHades296 said:

The UHD of A Clockwork Orange does include the original mono mix, which Blu-Ray.com’s reviewer preferred over the 5.1 remix (which on this disc sounds awful).

but with a lossy dolby 192 kbps

Would have been nice if it were lossless instead.

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Both tracks for Spaceballs are affected

The original BD has the original stereo track so it’s worthy if you’re an audiophile

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SpacemanDoug said:

Both tracks for Spaceballs are affected

The original BD has the original stereo track so it’s worthy if you’re an audiophile

Not an audiophile but I do have heavy preference for original cinema audio tracks. I’ll be keeping the 25th Anniversary BD release then.

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He did type Region 1 Blu-ray and Region 2 Blu-ray which Blu-ray disc dropped the numbers for the regions and just went for A, B, C. But a lot of us knew that. Must have been a carry over regarding typing a lot about DVDs.

Looking back, I did mean to type Region A and Region B as I was indeed referring to the Blu-ray. That was just an oversight on my behalf whilst writing.