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I’ve been looking for the mono mix for Help!, but cannot find a home video release that has it. They did finally release the mono for a hard days night on the blu-ray released by Criterion.

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Tantive3+1 said:

Are there any mono tracks that have currently never been released on DVD/Blu-ray?

Some of the Dirty Harry films.

The original stereo mixes for Back to the Future haven’t made their way to DVD/BD either.

The mono mix for Star Wars has NEVER been released on video officially!

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Tantive3+1 said:

Are there any mono tracks that have currently never been released on DVD/Blu-ray?

Yes. A lot actually.
It seems like it’s more rare for the original mono to be included then not.

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crissrudd4554 said:

Tantive3+1 said:

Are there any mono tracks that have currently never been released on DVD/Blu-ray?

Some of the Dirty Harry films.

The original stereo mixes for Back to the Future haven’t made their way to DVD/BD either.

The mono mix for Star Wars has NEVER been released on video officially!

stwd4nder2 said:

Tantive3+1 said:

Are there any mono tracks that have currently never been released on DVD/Blu-ray?

Yes. A lot actually.
It seems like it’s more rare for the original mono to be included then not.

Sorry, I forgot to say original mono tracks. While it’s true the original tracks for the films mentioned above have never been digitally released, the 5.1 mixes still sound the same as their originals with no noticeable changes made to it.

The only film I know of where this has happened is SW:ANH. While the mono has never been officially released, the original stereo mix was first released for home media in 1982. Then in 1985 the original stereo track was remixed with changes being done to some of the sound effects and a line of dialogue being added. This was used for every home media release until the 1993 USDC/1995 Faces where it was remixed again with elements from the mono mix and new sound effects added with these changes being carried over to the GOUT DVD; and the rest is history after 1997.

Besides ANH, are there any other films where the original mono/stereo mix never got released on DVD/Blu-ray?

Analog Releases of Films That Contain Deleted, Extended, & Alternate Footage That’ve Never Been Released on DVD/BluRay

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Tantive3+1 said:

crissrudd4554 said:

Tantive3+1 said:

Are there any mono tracks that have currently never been released on DVD/Blu-ray?

Some of the Dirty Harry films.

The original stereo mixes for Back to the Future haven’t made their way to DVD/BD either.

The mono mix for Star Wars has NEVER been released on video officially!

stwd4nder2 said:

Tantive3+1 said:

Are there any mono tracks that have currently never been released on DVD/Blu-ray?

Yes. A lot actually.
It seems like it’s more rare for the original mono to be included then not.

Sorry, I forgot to say original mono tracks. While it’s true the original tracks for the films mentioned above have never been digitally released, the 5.1 mixes still sound the same as their originals with no noticeable changes made to it.

Actually NO they don’t.

Dirty Harry

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Evr1sI1UScw

Back to the Future

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LFo1vaDk-SA

Everything you said about Star Wars is correct however.

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Tantive3+1 said:

crissrudd4554 said:

Tantive3+1 said:

Are there any mono tracks that have currently never been released on DVD/Blu-ray?

Some of the Dirty Harry films.

The original stereo mixes for Back to the Future haven’t made their way to DVD/BD either.

The mono mix for Star Wars has NEVER been released on video officially!

stwd4nder2 said:

Tantive3+1 said:

Are there any mono tracks that have currently never been released on DVD/Blu-ray?

Yes. A lot actually.
It seems like it’s more rare for the original mono to be included then not.

Sorry, I forgot to say original mono tracks. While it’s true the original tracks for the films mentioned above have never been digitally released, the 5.1 mixes still sound the same as their originals with no noticeable changes made to it.

The only film I know of where this has happened is SW:ANH. While the mono has never been officially released, the original stereo mix was first released for home media in 1982. Then in 1985 the original stereo track was remixed with changes being done to some of the sound effects and a line of dialogue being added. This was used for every home media release until the 1993 USDC/1995 Faces where it was remixed again with elements from the mono mix and new sound effects added with these changes being carried over to the GOUT DVD; and the rest is history after 1997.

Besides ANH, are there any other films where the original mono/stereo mix never got released on DVD/Blu-ray?

Well, besides the mono mix for the original 1977 Star Wars, I know that the original stereo mix for Don Bluth’s original 1986 film of An American Tail never got released on DVD or Blu-ray, as far as I know, with all that controversy over all that unnecessary remixing and redubbing of the voice/dialogue and sound effects elements of the original 1986 mix.

But I do think that its first sequel, 1991’s Fievel Goes West (which I do remembered best for Fievel’s sister Tanya’s songs, Dreams to Dream and The Girl You Left Behind, courtesy of the beautiful and lovely musical collaboration between The Powerpuff Girls’ commander and the leader Blossom Utonium’s original voice actress Cathy Cavadini and the late great movie music composer James Horner who also did the music for everything else like Star Trek’s Wrath of Khan and Search for Spock, the 1988 George Lucas/Ron Howard fantasy collaboration Willow, the first Land Before Time movie, Braveheart, Apollo 13, and even James Cameron’s Titanic and Avatar before being killed off in a summer 2015 plane crash) really sounds fine for me, for they somehow kept the original 1991 stereo voice/dialogue, music and sound effects elements intact, only to up mix those for Dolby Digital and DTS 5.1 audio for the DVD and Blu Ray release, or maybe without any changes to the original stereo mix at least.

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The 5.1 mix on the new 4K of The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly takes out the new sound effects and the mono track is a newly restored one taken from the 1990 laserdisc

Raccoons

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SpacemanDoug said:

The 5.1 mix on the new 4K of The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly takes out the new sound effects and the mono track is a newly restored one taken from the 1990 laserdisc

Thank the lord! Now if we could only get a proper restoration of the Dirty Harry movies.

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The Decimator said:

Thank the lord! Now if we could only get a proper restoration of the Dirty Harry movies.

From what I’ve seen the new blu-ray sold really well, so maybe there’s hope.

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Okay from what I have gathered, the following mono mixes and 2.0 mixes of movies that have been includes in recent releases of movies as of 2010-2021 are…(Deep Breath)

Scarface (From a recent Blu-Ray that included the 2.0 mix)
Mad Max (From the recent 4k Ultra High Definition Disc)
Superman: The Movie (Included on the Superman Theatrical Edition 2006 and Onwards)
The Godfather Parts I, II, and even III (Depends on who you ask really)

Wow. That was a very short list.

Now lets list some that were not restored with there original sounds…

The Terminator
The Godfather???
The Exorcist
Star Wars
…and so many more. 😦

The Tech Guy?

PS.
STOP CHANGING MOVIES!

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A Clockwork Orange is getting a 4k blu-ray, with the only english track being a new Atmos mix.

Reminder that the score was originally recorded in stereo but Kubrick had it re-recorded in mono because that’s how he wanted the film to be presented.

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TheTechnicalCharmer said:

Okay from what I have gathered, the following mono mixes and 2.0 mixes of movies that have been includes in recent releases of movies as of 2010-2021 are…(Deep Breath)

Scarface (From a recent Blu-Ray that included the 2.0 mix)
Mad Max (From the recent 4k Ultra High Definition Disc)
Superman: The Movie (Included on the Superman Theatrical Edition 2006 and Onwards)
The Godfather Parts I, II, and even III (Depends on who you ask really)

Wow. That was a very short list.

Now lets list some that were not restored with there original sounds…

The Terminator
The Godfather???
The Exorcist
Star Wars
…and so many more. 😦

The DIRECTOR’S CUT remix of The Exorcist is the revisionist one, the theatrical blu-ray’s 5.1 track has all of the original sounds with no changes whatsoever since the mix was created in 1998 before the director’s cut even existed

The Godfather on the blu-ray has the original audio as an alternative

Raccoons

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Isn’t there a lot more with original soundtracks that don’t include any 5.1 mix at all? Just going from my BD shelf, the first Vacation movies and Driver. I think many obscure films only contain the original stereo/mono mix.

And in the time of greatest despair, there shall come a savior, and he shall be known as the Son of the Suns.

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LexX said:

Isn’t there a lot more with original soundtracks that don’t include any 5.1 mix at all? Just going from my BD shelf, the first Vacation movies and Driver. I think many obscure films only contain the original stereo/mono mix.

the Vacation movies were actually never remixed, the first two are in mono and the third in stereo on their blu-ray releases, the fourth one is in 5.1 but my guess is that it was always in 5.1

However the first movie has a song changed in it but it’s been an issue since the second VHS

Raccoons

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Taxi Driver’s 4K release that’s part of Columbia Classics Collection: Volume 2 includes the mono mix.

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A Clockwork Orange Is Getting A 4K Release This September 21th, will ever include the original mono track?

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SpacemanDoug said:

CourtlyHades296 said:

Taxi Driver’s 4K release that’s part of Columbia Classics Collection: Volume 2 includes the mono mix.

for real?

According to Sony’s press release and provided specs, the 4K set does include Taxi Driver’s mono mix.

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I just got the 2021 blu-ray of Fast Times At Ridgemont High. The 5.1 Mix was ok, but I’m shocked Criterion didn’t include the mono mix.

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Mango said:

I just got the 2021 blu-ray of Fast Times At Ridgemont High. The 5.1 Mix was ok, but I’m shocked Criterion didn’t include the mono mix.

Apparently they were unable to locate it. I’m sure they could have just reused the mono from the original DVD release but I suppose they didn’t wanna go to the effort.

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The Star Trek films haven’t had their 2 channels mixes in a long time. They weren’t on the last round of DVDs, Blu-Ray’s and won’t be on the 4K UHD releases.

Wish i could retire my Laserdiscs. I’m aware the 5.1 mixes are based on the 6 track mixes but that doesn’t mean the UHD release should be missing the original stereo mixes. For the oddest reason they are adding an isolated music track but no original audio?

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The 60th Anniversary blu-ray of Psycho is nice in that its the uncut version, but the mono mix on it is just a downscale of the DTS X mix which is rather disappointing as the 50th Anniversary bluray had the original mono mix.