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There is an inversion with Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind.

It was originally in mono but Studio Ghibli was apparently going to do a stereo remix for it’s DVD release back in 2003 and due to some reasons (either the people behind it were disappointed with how it sounded or the ultra-purist that is Miyazaki disapproved it), it was canned and both the DVD and Blu-ray releases still use the original 1984 mono mix.
Even the dubbed versions (except for the recent Russian theatrical re-dub and the German dub) made over two decades after the film’s original release were in mono.

But what is more interesting is that a stereo remix already exists in a Drama Album containing the film’s full audio (kinda like The Story of Star Wars) in full stereo, with some alternate music cues and sound effects.
It was released in both CD and LP record back in 1989. It actually breathes new life into the original Japanese audio, even if the purist in me wants to stick with the mono mix.

Problem is the Drama Album is currently out-of-print.

And I’ve loved every pixel of it.
(Clarissa Darling, Clarissa Explains It All)

You’re so right.
(Kylo Ren, Star Wars: The Force Awakens)

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You can get the Drama album much easier on Record. The CD is impossible to find. As the record is in Japanese there is little benefit for me to buy it as i only understand English sans subtitles. When i can just enjoy the soundtrack instead without the dialog or sound effects. Not the only anime film for there to be an audio drama version or complete dialog and effects on a vinyl record or CD. Some of the Space Battleship Yamato films got that treatment. Even the English version Space Cruiser Yamato is available on Vinyl if not the complete film.

All of the Nausicaa Vinyl releases were reissued except for the drama album. But you can still buy it from Japan if you really want the expense.

I just found that the Mono Mix for Bullitt is available on a Japanese Laserdisc, and Dirty Harry is available on a first issue US disc in Mono. So all i need to do is buy those for my collection. Found out a Fistful of Dollars was released in 2018 on Blu Ray with the mono audio i wanted for a long time. So at least i don’t have to get the Laserdisc for that.

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Ah yes the 1983 laserdisc which is surprisingly good sounding has it

Magnum Force has never had its unedited mono mix on home video as ones that do have it have trimmed shots and other shots time compressed to save the amount of space needed at that time, the 90s stereo mix is the only way to get the original sound effects without any cuts or time compressed shots whatsoever

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Very interesting thread!

SilverWook said:

Worth noting the 2018 Criterion Blu-Ray release of Barry Lyndon has the original mono track.

As I have seen in many releases, Criterion includes the mono track always as 1.0, Olive Films too, but sometimes as 2.0. Why?

silverwheel said:

The other big problem with The French Connection’s surround mix is that the sounds effects, especially gunfire, are extremely loud compared to the music and dialogue. Thank heaven they had the good sense to include the mono (and to redo the color timing with Owen Roizman for the second Blu-ray release).

Here is a good example, I have seen the Blu-ray of “French Connection” but the mono track is 2.0.

If I am not mistaken, in these cases it’s a duplicate. The left and right channels are identical (same track). I think that if it were 1.0 it should sound only from the center channel. Is there any advantage with 2 channels? Shouldn’t it always be 1.0?

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If I am not mistaken, in these cases it’s a duplicate. The left and right channels are identical (same track). I think that if it were 1.0 it should sound only from the center channel. Is there any advantage with 2 channels? Shouldn’t it always be 1.0?

2.0 tracks probably have better compatibility, for example my old Panasonic player outputs 1.0 PCM as 5.1 with only the center channel active, which works but is kind of weird.

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Buster D said:

If I am not mistaken, in these cases it’s a duplicate. The left and right channels are identical (same track). I think that if it were 1.0 it should sound only from the center channel. Is there any advantage with 2 channels? Shouldn’t it always be 1.0?

2.0 tracks probably have better compatibility, for example my old Panasonic player outputs 1.0 PCM as 5.1 with only the center channel active, which works but is kind of weird.

That’s probably the reason but are all 2.0 tracks always a duplicate?

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a_purist said:

2.0 tracks probably have better compatibility, for example my old Panasonic player outputs 1.0 PCM as 5.1 with only the center channel active, which works but is kind of weird.

That’s probably the reason but are all 2.0 tracks always a duplicate?

If the source was a mono film, they should be, but there are quite a few films that were mono in theaters but remixed to stereo for home video: https://www.hometheaterforum.com/community/threads/the-ultimate-list-of-mono-to-stereo-remixed-soundtracks.339481/

2.0 for stuff like Dolby Stereo shouldn’t be duplicated, obviously.

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Buster D said:

If the source was a mono film, they should be, but there are quite a few films that were mono in theaters but remixed to stereo for home video: https://www.hometheaterforum.com/community/threads/the-ultimate-list-of-mono-to-stereo-remixed-soundtracks.339481/

Quite a couple of the films on that list had certain elements (namely the music stems) recorded in stereo, but downmixed to mono for the optical soundtrack on a film strip (which was, obviously, monaural). Just saying…

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Thanks, I’ll take a look at that list.

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I don’t want to get off topic but is there a thread for films that only were re-released in 5.1 and don’t have their stereo tracks. I own a bunch of films on Laserdiscs, that when the time came for them to be released on DVD or Blu-Ray they left off the theatrical stereo options.