Info: Mad Max Rarities/Road Warrior Japanese DVD

Author: andy_k_250
Date: 8-Feb-2006, 12:30 AM

Author: andy_k_250
Time: 8-Feb-2006 12:30 AM (Edited)
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I don’t know if there is any, but does anyone here have any Mad Max material?

Also, does anyone have the Japanese DVD of The Road Warrior? Just wondering what extras are on there versus the very plain Warnes Bros. US release.

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Author: klokwerk
Time: 8-Feb-2006 12:56 AM
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I am unaware of any rarities for Mad Max, however, I can quote some info about the OOP Japanese DVD:

Text taken from: Mad Max 2: The Road Warrior (1981) @ DVD Compare

The Original Limited Japanese Unrated release is fully UNCUT, but is Non-Anamorphic, only has 2.0 sound and VERY hard to find. There is another Japanese release which is Anamorphic, has 5.1 sound and some Extras including a featurette, but this version is slightly cut.

The current R1, R2's and the R4 releases are anamorphic and 5.1 however they are the US R-Rated cut, which is missing a few seconds (refer to cut notes below).
Beware however that the German and the old Swedish release are cut further 4m 25s, AVOID THESE VERSIONS!

I guess that means you might want to use an anamorphic NTSC DVD release (say the American R1) and insert the missing scenes from the completely uncut version. However, I don't know if we're allowed to talk about projects like that any more.

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Author: MeBeJedi
Time: 8-Feb-2006 8:27 AM
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Talking about it isn't a problem, but asking for a copy might be touchy.

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Author: RIJIR
Time: 8-Feb-2006 10:04 AM
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I have a TV version on DVD that has a lot of the violence cut but other stuff added to fill the void. The opening and closing narration is also done by a different person. It is full screen and decent quality. It is also called MadMax 2 and I think is from Australia.

Author: joebshmoe
Time: 8-Feb-2006 1:16 PM
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in australia, "the road warrior" is known as "mad max 2"

Author: andy_k_250
Time: 8-Feb-2006 2:06 PM
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What else is added in? Just curious.

I love the Mad Max Trilogy (maybe a quadrilogy soon?) but it is a shame there is not more floating around from it. Seems like it is often under-rated and overlooked.

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Author: andy_k_250
Time: 8-Feb-2006 3:13 PM
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http://www.madmaxmovies.com/films/madmax2/LostVersion/index.html

Nevermind - is this it? Looks pretty interesting. Is your DVD better quality than the scenes on that site?

From what I understand now, the original Japanese limited edition release is currently out of print. Does that make it up for fan distribution?

As for other stuff, I just found this - looks kind of neat:

http://www.back2themax.com/dvd.html

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Author: klokwerk
Time: 8-Feb-2006 3:25 PM
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I didn't know that a TV cut of Mad Max 2 was floating around. I suppose there'd be bits in that which you wouldn't find anywhere else. Perhaps you might consider trading a copy of that with me? PM me.

I purchased Mad Max on DVD late last year, to watch it for the first time, and I enjoyed it. Unfortunately, unlike the US DVD there are barely any special features - though it does have DTS. Anyway, just a week or two ago, Mad Max 2 was aired on TV. My brother and I sat down and watched it and agreed we liked it more than the first. I've yet to see the third one (Thunderdome).

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Author: Mitch
Time: 8-Feb-2006 5:01 PM
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I have the r-18 austrailain uncut version, the rareist

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Author: andy_k_250
Time: 8-Feb-2006 7:36 PM
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Originally posted by: Mitch
I have the r-18 austrailain uncut version, the rareist

Are you talking about Mad Max 1 or Mad Max 2?

Why is it rare? What sets it aside? What makes it special vs. the US theatrical version or TV edit or Japanese uncut version?

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Author: Mitch
Time: 8-Feb-2006 9:11 PM
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R-18 of Mad Max 2 is the only version with all the complete footage.

There are two versions avaiable in Australia (M15+ and R18+). -The R-rated (and very rare) version contains more footage of Wez pulling the arrow from his arm including a close-up shot where the arrow can be seen poking through his arm and out the other side, and remains in close-up as he begins pulling the arrow through and out. The M15+ version cuts to a long shot after a very quick shot of the arrow in Wez's arm.
The rape and execution of the female driver as seen through the jiro captain's telescope is longer and more explicit
The shot of the two lovers in the tent that is torn away by Max in the truck is in normal speed, rather than fast motion as it is in the M15+ version.
There are two different voiceover versions for the beginning montage of the film. One is an Australian voiceover and the other American. The dialogue is also changed somewhat e.g. the Australian voiceover says, "...men like Max, the warrior Max, in the roar of an engine he lost everything. And became a shell of a man, a burnt out desolate man, haunted by the demons of his past. A man who wandered out into the wastelands and it was here in this blighted place, that he learned to live again," while the American voiceover says, "men like Max, who roamed the highways in the name of the law, who became a lover, husband, father, in the roar of an engine he lost everything, his woman, his child, his world. He wandered out into the wastelands. And here he would learn, that beyond the world of ? and machines, hope survives."
In some versions, Papagalo's speech from the scaffolding (after Humongous tells them all to "just walk away") is longer. eg. "And what then...?" (extra dialogue = We wander the wastelands and become like them, savages?) "But the first step, defend the fuel." (extra dialogue = and I stay, alone if I have to. I'll leave them nothing, that I promise!)

The r-18 true version was released once on Australian PAL VHS

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Author: RIJIR
Time: 8-Feb-2006 11:27 PM
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Originally posted by: andy_k_250
http://www.madmaxmovies.com/films/madmax2/LostVersion/index.html

Nevermind - is this it? Looks pretty interesting. Is your DVD better quality than the scenes on that site?

From what I understand now, the original Japanese limited edition release is currently out of print. Does that make it up for fan distribution?

As for other stuff, I just found this - looks kind of neat:

http://www.back2themax.com/dvd.html

This is where I got my copy years ago.

Author: klokwerk
Time: 9-Feb-2006 7:54 AM
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I guess this means that a cut could be assembled from the R18 Australian Cut, the TV Cut and the OOP Japanese DVD Cut. Or does the R18 make the Japanese one redundant? Due to the TV Cut removing violence and padding out the movie, it would have footage that the R18 wouldn't have.

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Author: RIJIR
Time: 9-Feb-2006 8:39 AM
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Originally posted by: klokwerk
I guess this means that a cut could be assembled from the R18 Australian Cut, the TV Cut and the OOP Japanese DVD Cut. Or does the R18 make the Japanese one redundant? Due to the TV Cut removing violence and padding out the movie, it would have footage that the R18 wouldn't have.

That's what I was thinking. Otherwise the R18 cut must be nearly 2 hours if it has all the footage. I doubt there is currenlty a version out there that has all the footage edited together.

Author: joebshmoe
Time: 9-Feb-2006 3:40 PM
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i smell a composite/fan-edit!

i have the mad max 2 tv cut on a bootleg VHS.

i'll dig it out and look at it again...

the uncut version is in need of DVD authoring and myspleen seeding i think

Author: Mitch
Time: 9-Feb-2006 10:07 PM
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Folks, the r-18 is not a composite? read on imdb.com That version is the version that they used for the TV cut, However, it is uncut and unchanged, it has all the scenes from the theatrical. Plus the R-18 cut is the only version to have all of the original austrailian dialog like Mad max Special Edition.. All other version have english overdubs

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Author: klokwerk
Time: 9-Feb-2006 10:59 PM
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Originally posted by: Mitch
Folks, the r-18 is not a composite? read on imdb.com That version is the version that they used for the TV cut, However, it is uncut and unchanged, it has all the scenes from the theatrical. Plus the R-18 cut is the only version to have all of the original austrailian dialog like Mad max Special Edition.. All other version have english overdubs

That means that the R18 Cut contains everything from the TV Cut, in addition to the Theatrical Cut/Japanese Cut? If that's the case, then it is truly complete....

AND since it's only ever been on VHS, a DVD preservation should be allowed around here. I guess a project would be to recreate it as a composite from the various DVD releases (so we can have the R18 cut in the highest quality at any given time. Is that a taboo thing to discuss?

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Author: Mitch
Time: 9-Feb-2006 11:14 PM
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I am going to send it to Rikter to author...

However, if you have a passion to recreate it, I don't know how you would fuckin restore it.. but anyway's go ahead...... I'm game...

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Author: andy_k_250
Time: 9-Feb-2006 11:19 PM
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That sounds awesome - I know I brought it up, but I honestly don't have the time/skills/resources yet to accomplish such a feat, although I would definitely be interested in the end result of it. Not to be a choosy beggar, but it would be nice to have the Japanese documentary material tossed on for extras, too, since these are not availabe in the US.

Originally posted by: klokwerk

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Author: klokwerk
Time: 9-Feb-2006 11:32 PM
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Mitch:
Just to make sure the version you have is complete -> does it feature the 2 short scenes from the OOP Japanese release, seen here?

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Author: RIJIR
Time: 10-Feb-2006 12:38 AM
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If the R-18 cut has everything in it how come it is only a few minutes longer than the other versions? The TV cut has some 20 min of deleted/alternte footage. It should be nearly 2 hours then.

Author: Ash595
Time: 10-Feb-2006 3:11 AM
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I have a rare documentary on the making of Mad Max 3, made by french Television. it runs 70 minutes and includes interviews on the set with mel Gibson, Tina Turner and George Miller. It is english for the interviews with french subtitles. Here are some screenshots.

http://img496.imageshack.us/img496/4768/madmax4vf.jpg

I desperately want to have the featurette on the japanese dvd of Mad Max 2

Author: klokwerk
Time: 10-Feb-2006 6:20 AM
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Wow! A 70-minute doco on Mad Max 3, with that they could easily re-release it. Ash, are the subtitles burnt in or optional?

I'm looking around for the Japanese Mad Max 2 DVD, so I'll let you know if I hear anything.

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Author: Ash595
Time: 10-Feb-2006 6:41 AM
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they are burnt in, it is from a TV show back in 1985. but the documentary was rebroadcasted 5 years ago on cable TV. I transferred the VHS I have on DVDR last year.

let me know if you find the japanese DVD and we can do some trade

Author: klokwerk
Time: 10-Feb-2006 8:49 AM
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I may have access to a VHS version of the 6min Making of Mad Max 2. Have to check with a friend. Apparently, this is just a cut down version of the original 'Makin of'. There doesn't seem to be any available version of this full-length 'Making of' though.

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