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Info: Lord of the Rings Trilogy - on 35mm - for sale on ebay; anyone interested?

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LOTR , TTT, ROTK have come up on the 35mm forum at $1800 for the entire set.

From the description:

Prints are in overall STUNNING condition, Scope, LPP with all THREE DIGITAL TRACKS  SDDS, SRD, and DTS

FELLOWSHIP OF THE RINGS - 9 reels, 178 minutes;

TWO TOWERS - 9 reels, 179 minutes;

RETURN OF THE KING - 10 reels, 201 minutes;

Is anyone interested in this?

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IIRC the issue people care about most with the theatrical Blu-rays is slightly lower detail that the EE's, but I'm not sure it's at all clear that projection prints like these would provide noticeably more detail--perhaps even less.  People certainly complain plenty about the colors on FOTR:EE, but I'm not sure these would provide any more help for correcting that than the existing home video transfers (EE DVD or theatrical BD).

In a perfect world with infinite time and money, I'd say go for it, but I'm inclined to say we should save our time and money for other projects where film prints fill a more pressing need.  I'm sure there will be differing opinions ;)

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Sounds sensible to me.

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poita said:

LOTR , TTT, ROTK have come up on the 35mm forum at $1800 for the entire set.

     Oh be still my beating heart!

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CatBus said:

... I'm not sure it's at all clear that projection prints like these would provide noticeably more detail--perhaps even less.

 Could this really be true?


              35mm                          Blu-ray
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And the best thing: the "car in the background" scene in FOTR should be intact.

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CatBus said:

IIRC the issue people care about most with the theatrical Blu-rays is slightly lower detail that the EE's, but I'm not sure it's at all clear that projection prints like these would provide noticeably more detail--perhaps even less.

 It's not about detail as much as colors. 35mm scan would be 100% theatrically accurate, no fade. I'm not sure how hard would it be to correct BD, but the scan itself would be very watchable.

$1800 is an amazing price for the whole trilogy. It's only a bit more than the amount raised for a certain 16mm movie a month ago. One, faded movie.

I really hope there will be enough interest to secure this. I'm a little concerned about shipping costs though...

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I would be interested if we had a way of decoding the SDDS

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Spaced Ranger said:


CatBus said:

... I'm not sure it's at all clear that projection prints like these would provide noticeably more detail--perhaps even less.

 Could this really be true?

 Yes. Remeber, the Blu Rays, even with their issues, are sourced directly from the original source element, and each frame is scanned with care.  Most of the issues with the bluray occur after that point, as people mess with the image.

By comparison, a 35mm general release print is usually scanned and printed from something other than the original elements.  Theys are often created under rushed circumstances;  trying to deliver thousands of prints to thousands of theaters to make release date. For release prints, Time and cost are more important that quality.   In pristine qualiity, its not a given that 35mm release print will contain more detail than a bluray.  After arriving at a theater, they degrade further  as they are handled by staff, moved, spliced, rewound, and played over and over, becoming more damaged with every step. 

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OH, nooooo, it is about 95% chance, I have missed this... BUT IF I JUST STILL HAD A CHANCE, I'd dig a tunnel all the way through earth and come to get those prints immediately!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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It does sound tempting .................  :)

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Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think the extended editions were never released theatrically.

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fmalover said:

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think the extended editions were never released theatrically.

Actually, 35mm prints of the extended Fellowship and Two Towers exist, but not Return of the King.

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Were these films ever really super grainy? I know they were shot on Super35. But what was the reason PJ had to degrain them to hell and back.

I don’t remember them being overly grainy at all. I do remember the image being not incredibly sharp and kind of soft on the prints i saw in the cinema. But they looked plenty lifelike and filmic in non cgi scenes. Unlike the Hobbit which looked like it was shot on a video camera, and everything looked flat and fake like a pre-rendered videogame cutscene.