guitarfan01 said:Well, killing the Emperor and Vader wouldn't free the galaxy anyway.
Where's a clip of the after-credits bit of SW Robot Chicken Ep II when you need it? :D
Star Wars doesn't end with ROTJ we just don't see what happens next (it's our departure point).
There is plenty of evidence that "And they all lived happily ever after" is not end of this tale just yet.
Bingowings said:Star Wars doesn't end with ROTJ we just don't see what happens next (it's our departure point).
There is plenty of evidence that "And they all lived happily ever after" is not end of this tale just yet.
Which is why I don't think it should be ended with that sort of a sequence. It bothered me in the SE's and it bothers me now.
*shrug*
Bingowings said:Star Wars doesn't end with ROTJ we just don't see what happens next (it's our departure point).
There is plenty of evidence that "And they all lived happily ever after" is not end of this tale just yet.
And THAT is why I am against the SE galaxy celebrations - to celebrate on Endor is one thing; to pretend that the Empire really is over and the entire imperial fleet and army is just going to let it happen is BS.
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LexX said:I'm not in favor for many fan edits really but something just came up to my mind when listening the ROTJ soundtrack. Jabba's theme or his background music isn't really menacing enough, there are just some weird trombones or something and not enough creepiness that would make the palace scary and that the rebels might not survive. So if there's any music that would fit better that would be a nice change.
I don't know if their is anything that could replace his theme. It is too recognizable. Its good enough. The Tuba is an instrument that represents every fat guy.
"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas
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Monroville said:Bingowings said:Star Wars doesn't end with ROTJ we just don't see what happens next (it's our departure point).
There is plenty of evidence that "And they all lived happily ever after" is not end of this tale just yet.
And THAT is why I am against the SE galaxy celebrations - to celebrate on Endor is one thing; to pretend that the Empire really is over and the entire imperial fleet and army is just going to let it happen is BS.
Proof is in what happened in Iraq. We killed Saddam Hussein and they still are fighting us.
"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas
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EyeShotFirst said:Proof is in what happened in Iraq. We killed Saddam Hussein and they still are fighting us.
That dont sounds good for someone who is outside US.
-Angel
Monroville said:Bingowings said:Star Wars doesn't end with ROTJ we just don't see what happens next (it's our departure point).
There is plenty of evidence that "And they all lived happily ever after" is not end of this tale just yet.
And THAT is why I am against the SE galaxy celebrations - to celebrate on Endor is one thing; to pretend that the Empire really is over and the entire imperial fleet and army is just going to let it happen is BS.
the special edition galaxy celebrations i think were more for the non EU fans. those who read the EU, KNOW its not happily ever after. personally, i still like the galaxy celebrations.
I feel that ending the saga with a happy moment doesnt work.
"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas
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One thing and I have mentioned it before that I would bring in from the PT into Jedi is that little neckless thing that Anakin made.
It seemed to me to be a Chekhov's Gun that never went off.
When I saw TPM I thought I bet that neckless will actually be used in some way to turn Anakin.
It will turn up at the scene of some disaster or in Obi-Wan's underwear drawer or something but it never happened.
So I thought it would be nice if the one thing Leia had of her mother was the neckless and she gave it to Luke on Endor when he told her he was her brother (he is asking about his mother after all).
When Palpatine is zapping Luke the thing could fall on the floor and that could be the straw that snaps the camel's back.
Otherwise it seems like a big deal for no reason, he makes the object as a little boy, Padme keeps it all her life and it presumably goes up in flames with her body after she dies.
Putting it into the last film turns a small object into a trigger for big events.
Bingowings said:One thing and I have mentioned it before that I would bring in from the PT into Jedi is that little neckless thing that Anakin made.
It seemed to me to be a Chekhov's Gun that never went off.
When I saw TPM I thought I bet that neckless will actually be used in some way to turn Anakin.
It will turn up at the scene of some disaster or in Obi-Wan's underwear drawer or something but it never happened.
So I thought it would be nice if the one thing Leia had of her mother was the neckless and she gave it to Luke on Endor when he told her he was her brother (he is asking about his mother after all).
When Palpatine is zapping Luke the thing could fall on the floor and that could be the straw that snaps the camel's back.
Otherwise it seems like a big deal for no reason, he makes the object as a little boy, Padme keeps it all her life and it presumably goes up in flames with her body after she dies.
Putting it into the last film turns a small object into a trigger for big events.
This would be cool if pulled off right, but it would require shooting scenes of the necklace being exchanged between Leia and Luke, and a shot of it falling off of Luke while laying on the floor. And the only way this could be done is in closeup shots of just their hands, since no shots of the actors exchanging anything exists. If it didn't work, it would be too obvious that these are insert shots.
Interesting, but tricky.
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i like the idea too. maybe a little flashback or something. that would be a hard one to pull off. lets keep the idea up there so we can come back to it.
Hey Angel, I really like your AT-ST cockpit mockup. Good stuff. Really brings it to life. It needs some reflections though (just kidding)
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Reflections ftw man! especially if there is a glass!
-Angel
For those of you wanting Forest Troopers here's my mockup but once again how it could be done easierly on screen is a mystery.
Wow, very nice. What's with that shot, though? Some fan posing in a costume they made?
Hey, if it didn't take you too long to do that one, how 'bout a Scout trooper, too? :)
Yeah, it's a fan costume which I camoed up (he was in a desert too).
I used this pattern if you want to have a go yourself :
Here in the same vein is a Forest Scout :
oh_riginal said:Bingowings said:One thing and I have mentioned it before that I would bring in from the PT into Jedi is that little neckless thing that Anakin made.
It seemed to me to be a Chekhov's Gun that never went off.
When I saw TPM I thought I bet that neckless will actually be used in some way to turn Anakin.
It will turn up at the scene of some disaster or in Obi-Wan's underwear drawer or something but it never happened.
So I thought it would be nice if the one thing Leia had of her mother was the neckless and she gave it to Luke on Endor when he told her he was her brother (he is asking about his mother after all).
When Palpatine is zapping Luke the thing could fall on the floor and that could be the straw that snaps the camel's back.
Otherwise it seems like a big deal for no reason, he makes the object as a little boy, Padme keeps it all her life and it presumably goes up in flames with her body after she dies.
Putting it into the last film turns a small object into a trigger for big events.
This would be cool if pulled off right, but it would require shooting scenes of the necklace being exchanged between Leia and Luke, and a shot of it falling off of Luke while laying on the floor. And the only way this could be done is in closeup shots of just their hands, since no shots of the actors exchanging anything exists. If it didn't work, it would be too obvious that these are insert shots.
Interesting, but tricky.
sorry to party poop. But, Padme was burned/buried what ever with the necklace in ROTS.
"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas
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EyeShotFirst said:oh_riginal said:Bingowings said:One thing and I have mentioned it before that I would bring in from the PT into Jedi is that little neckless thing that Anakin made.
It seemed to me to be a Chekhov's Gun that never went off.
When I saw TPM I thought I bet that neckless will actually be used in some way to turn Anakin.
It will turn up at the scene of some disaster or in Obi-Wan's underwear drawer or something but it never happened.
So I thought it would be nice if the one thing Leia had of her mother was the neckless and she gave it to Luke on Endor when he told her he was her brother (he is asking about his mother after all).
When Palpatine is zapping Luke the thing could fall on the floor and that could be the straw that snaps the camel's back.
Otherwise it seems like a big deal for no reason, he makes the object as a little boy, Padme keeps it all her life and it presumably goes up in flames with her body after she dies.
Putting it into the last film turns a small object into a trigger for big events.
This would be cool if pulled off right, but it would require shooting scenes of the necklace being exchanged between Leia and Luke, and a shot of it falling off of Luke while laying on the floor. And the only way this could be done is in closeup shots of just their hands, since no shots of the actors exchanging anything exists. If it didn't work, it would be too obvious that these are insert shots.
Interesting, but tricky.
sorry to party poop. But, Padme was burned/buried what ever with the necklace in ROTS.
Fan editing is a pathway to many abilities that some consider..unnatural
EyeShotFirst said:oh_riginal said:Bingowings said:One thing and I have mentioned it before that I would bring in from the PT into Jedi is that little neckless thing that Anakin made.
It seemed to me to be a Chekhov's Gun that never went off.
When I saw TPM I thought I bet that neckless will actually be used in some way to turn Anakin.
It will turn up at the scene of some disaster or in Obi-Wan's underwear drawer or something but it never happened.
So I thought it would be nice if the one thing Leia had of her mother was the neckless and she gave it to Luke on Endor when he told her he was her brother (he is asking about his mother after all).
When Palpatine is zapping Luke the thing could fall on the floor and that could be the straw that snaps the camel's back.
Otherwise it seems like a big deal for no reason, he makes the object as a little boy, Padme keeps it all her life and it presumably goes up in flames with her body after she dies.
Putting it into the last film turns a small object into a trigger for big events.
This would be cool if pulled off right, but it would require shooting scenes of the necklace being exchanged between Leia and Luke, and a shot of it falling off of Luke while laying on the floor. And the only way this could be done is in closeup shots of just their hands, since no shots of the actors exchanging anything exists. If it didn't work, it would be too obvious that these are insert shots.
Interesting, but tricky.
sorry to party poop. But, Padme was burned/buried what ever with the necklace in ROTS.
A scene in which the necklace can be removed, which would be a lot easier to do compared to inserting the necklace into the OT.
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well these are you guys' ideas. I cannot be against a fan edit. I ain't ya'lls executive producer. If ya'll need the necklace so be it. `but get this. A viewers ass will have fuzed to the chair through osmosis before return of jedi and they will be more worried about getting a spatula than whats goin on with a necklace. LOL just kidding.
"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas
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maybe too radical, and i dont know why or how this could be done, but maybe somehow leia could have it, and she could give it to luke to where, repeating anakin's line from TPM 'it will bring you luck' (i think he says that.:P)
i am assuming that ROTS:R wont have padme dying, to fit in with her surviving until leia is young enough to remember her, and thus perhaps give it to her.
EyeShotFirst said:well these are you guys' ideas. I cannot be against a fan edit. I ain't ya'lls executive producer. If ya'll need the necklace so be it. `but get this. A viewers ass will have fuzed to the chair through osmosis before return of jedi and they will be more worried about getting a spatula than whats goin on with a necklace. LOL just kidding.
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Monroville said:vaderios said:
I never liked the droopy eyed windows, as not only did it look non-threatening but were actually quite useless can the guys piloting REALLY see anything outside of those things?).
The AT-ST's windows do make sense if the opponents are about as large as the walker and at some distance.
I don't think the AT-ST was designed to have the enemies scurrying around the walker's feet ... and the movie kind of made a point about that. :D
I think it makes sense for the pilots to have opened the windows to see the outside as it is, even though they had been told not to. They are human, after all.
I think the idea of having a force-field over the window also makes sense.
Another thing that could be improved could be the thickness of the window lids. They look like baking trays from this angle.
Darth Lars said:Monroville said:vaderios said:
I never liked the droopy eyed windows, as not only did it look non-threatening but were actually quite useless can the guys piloting REALLY see anything outside of those things?).
Another thing that could be improved could be the thickness of the window lids. They look like baking trays from this angle.
Or, if we can't have the rectangular single window, could the "eyelids" be removed so you just have the 2 portals to look out of? Because either they would be "force field" windows or just a flat armored face with viewscreens on the inside.
If the eyelids are removed, is there any way to make the top of the windows angle down to match the upward angle of the bottom of the windows, so if they are to look like "eyes, then at least they look like angry eyes and not like the Scout Walkers are worrying about something?
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