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Does Vader/Anakin there really look like he was a burn victim? more like light saber scarring and major radiation.
does anyone know if at the time of filming he was meant to have been burned in the past?
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The lava battle was part of the backstory long before the prequels were around. I believe that it was established by the time of ROTJ, but I could be wrong.
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RoccondilRinon said:The lava battle was part of the backstory long before the prequels were around. I believe that it was established by the time of ROTJ, but I could be wrong.
I recall reading this in the ROTJ novelization. But don't quote me, as that was well over 15 years ago for me.
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Janskeet said:
Adywan has got to do something about the super star destroyer crashing into the Death Star. It just blows up as soon as it touches the Death Star. It's so lame. Everything that gets touched in star wars has to blow up. It would be nice for once not to have that happen so bluntely. I think it would be cool to see the Super Star Destroyer bust through levels of the death star and see imperial troops run for their lives as the Star Destroyer bursts through the place. I think I saw some ideas to show the super star destroyer crash into an uncompleted section of the Death Star. I think that is cool too.
Actually, several of the Podracers crashed without exploding, Teemto's didnts explode and niether did Sebulba's. I loved those crashes.
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I bought a book that came out in late 86 that I do not have anymore on acount of it being a 80 page paperback. It explained that vader was burned in lava during a fight. I also read a EU book that said something about him falling in some shaft LOL. I should go back in time and write an EU book that has vader grilling hamburgers and a drunken obi wan knocks his face into the grill then they fight and the propane tank blows up from being knocked over and the flames igniting it and shredding up poor vader. Then he wants revenge. LOL
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i would have liked to see vaders fall in a similar way to harvey dent in the DARK KNIGHT, the burns were just the final push over the edge for him.
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Star Wars wouldnt keep it's PG 13 rating if they did that. I thought him burning was ironically funny especially when he tells obi wan I HATE YOU lol.
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i would have liked to see vaders fall in a similar way to harvey dent in the DARK KNIGHT, the burns were just the final push over the edge for him.
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My first thought when I saw the vaderios' Jabba's Palace matte was "I hope someone asked for a higher resolution!" And you did. And I was pleased.
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I love that Jabba matte. It's awesome. Subtle but stunning.
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The main problem with the SSD crash into the DS2 is the pyro doesn't scale quite right and the frame rate isnt quick enough to give a sense of large mass.
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The thing with the SSD that always bugged me. It always looked so small when crashin into the death star. i still think we need new music from the PT for that scene when they attack the death star. the music i'm refering to is in TPM after anakin blows up the main reactor.
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Just another quickie Executor go bang, bang mockup (it's been a busy weekend) :
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Looks good, Bingo. Nice new angle. :)
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nice! if only we get those towers on the SSD pop out.
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Bingowings said:Just another quickie Executor go bang, bang mockup (it's been a busy weekend) :
Yes, I was thinking of a shot, more like this where we see it bust through the death star at a closer angle. The ROTJ SSD was definitely a half-assed, last minuet shot.
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oh_riginal said:Janskeet said:
Does Adywan plan on using the eyebrowless Sebastian Shaw or the browed one?
Wouldn't it make logical sense to use no eyebrows? I mean, its not like his hair roots survived his injuries, so why keep the eyebrows? Unless his eyebrows had more "midichlorians" than his hair! HA!
I agree that it would make more sense not to have eyebrows. Why would his eyebrows stay intact if his head of hair didn't? Plus if you consider the prequels canon material (which I don't), Anakin's eyebrows do burn off and considering how badly burnt he gets, I don't think they're coming back no matter how many midichlorians he had, lol.
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That was one of only two change from any SE version (97 or 04) that I 100% liked. Even the ones I don't mind, I still don't prefer over the original. But this was something that just made sense, and I was surprised wasn't done that way originally. Why didn't they shave his eyebroys off or something? It just looks so much better.
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What was the other one?
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ChainsawAsh said:That was one of only two change from any SE version (97 or 04) that I 100% liked. Even the ones I don't mind, I still don't prefer over the original. But this was something that just made sense, and I was surprised wasn't done that way originally. Why didn't they shave his eyebroys off or something? It just looks so much better.
Yep, this is one of those rare SE changes where the "change the PT to match the OT" rule would not work... cause putting eyebrows on Hayden in ROTS while he is in flames would not make any sense at all! HA!
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I found more that needs correcting in ROTJ. I haven't seen adywan around here lately, he hasn't been replying to my questions, hopefully he'll be back soon. During the "run" through the interior of Death Star II, you can see some green silhouette surrounding the tie fighters:
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in the 2004 version of a new hope, u see the same kind of thing during the trench run arount the ties that are pursuing them.
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Janskeet said:
Does Adywan plan on using the eyebrowless Sebastian Shaw or the browed one?
Is it just me, or does Vader look like a conehead?
Just an idea (either for JEDI:R or anyone else's edit): if anyone has seen the 1986 film THE VINDICATOR, would it be conceivable to use some FX and editing (shots of close-up of Vader's eyes/ Luke grimacing as he sees just how bad he is) to essentially show Vader in a similar condition as the man-bot in the aforementioned film (as in: more scars, no jaw, maybe make the breather larger to cover his lack of lips/mouth/etc - more DARKMANish I guess)?
In fact, would it be conceivable to do an edit where:
when Luke takes off the mask, he winces when he sees just how torn up he is and we never see Vader's "face", but just close ups of his eyes as he tries to talk. That way we can still imagine how bad off he looks and you still keep the mystery of what is behind the mask (that pretty much disappointed me when I finally saw it).
I would at least "sand" the top of his head down to more cranial proportions.
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Monroville said:Janskeet said:
Does Adywan plan on using the eyebrowless Sebastian Shaw or the browed one?
Is it just me, or does Vader look like a conehead?
Just an idea (either for JEDI:R or anyone else's edit): if anyone has seen the 1986 film THE VINDICATOR, would it be conceivable to use some FX and editing (shots of close-up of Vader's eyes/ Luke grimacing as he sees just how bad he is) to essentially show Vader in a similar condition as the man-bot in the aforementioned film (as in: more scars, no jaw, maybe make the breather larger to cover his lack of lips/mouth/etc - more DARKMANish I guess)?
In fact, would it be conceivable to do an edit where:
when Luke takes off the mask, he winces when he sees just how torn up he is and we never see Vader's "face", but just close ups of his eyes as he tries to talk. That way we can still imagine how bad off he looks and you still keep the mystery of what is behind the mask (that pretty much disappointed me when I finally saw it).
I would at least "sand" the top of his head down to more cranial proportions.
I think the conehead thing comes from Mr. Shaw wearing a bald cap, rather than actually being bald for the scene.
I like the Chasing Amy explanation of this scene. Too funny!
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oh_riginal said:I like the Chasing Amy explanation of this scene. Too funny!
Haven't seen it. Could you paraphrase it?
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Ripplin said:oh_riginal said:I like the Chasing Amy explanation of this scene. Too funny!
Haven't seen it. Could you paraphrase it?
"... And then you got Darth Vader, the blackest brother in the galaxy, Nubian god. (...) Now, Vader, he's a spiritual brother, y'know, down with the force and all that good s**t. Then this cracker, Skywalker, gets his hands on a lightsaber and the boy decides he's gonna run the f*****g universe; gets a whole clan of whites together. And they go and bust up Vader's hood, the Death Star. Now what the f**k do you call that? (...)Gentrification! They gon' drive out the black element to make the galaxy quote, unquote, safe for white folks. And Jedi's the most insulting installment! Because Vader's beautiful black visage is sullied when he pulls off his mask to reveal a feeble, crusty, old white man! They tryin' to tell us that deep inside we all wants to be white!"