Info & Ideas: ESB and ROTJ Wishlist — Page 61

AxiaEuxine said:

Bingowings said:

vaderios said:

Thats for Bingo.

I took the concept from AOTC that shows the battlefield so why not have the same here..

-Angel

That's another great mock up there Angel.

 

That is beyond awesome. Great idea. Id be interested to see what it looked like in blue for some reason.

 

It's quite good in blue too :

i don't like it. srry. but, i was watching ROTS and ROTJ,  and looked at the two space battles, coruscant and endor. i noticed a couple of things. One, i think it would be cool to do something like when the republic cruiser comes along the side of grevious' ship, they start firing at each other and shoot the crap out of each other. i think that would be a cool edition to put in.

also, i noticed that when the death star first fires, when it hits the Mon calamari cruiser, it blows up, but u can see the model is still there. any ideas on how to fix that?

maybe when the death star core is shot out, and there is a bit of a delay for the explosion, akbar summon the fleet to move away, and we could see the hologram begin to flash perhaps?

the more i think about lando dying, the more id prefer him to get caught in an accident on the way out. as the DSII may explode over the period of a minute, it would be cool to see it breaking apart/imploding whilst this is going on perhaps? then the other idea of the MF being smashed by a huge piece of debris, and us suddenly seeing it from the perspective of the MF cockpit could work too. just imagine how sudden and shocking it would be. (see diagram below)

anxious > positive > anxious > positive > shoot out DS core > very anxious > escaping > excited > happy > oh shit whats that OH MY GOD THEYRE DEAD

I guess it boils down to whether we want Lando to be an accident victim or someone who dies in sacrifice of his own free will.  Each of these have their own problems and their own payoffs. 

If one was to kill off Lando in their edit, I think I'd want Lando sacrifice himself on an impossible mission.  I think I would feel cheated as an audience member if he had the chance to get out alive and it was taken away from him.

that is true, the death should probably have some purpose. it would be too late in the SAGA to have it as an emotional device to affect the other characters. i just liked the idea of a abrupt unromantic crushing death.

has anyone seen serenity? i still dont quite gt why they had to kill wash off. id rather have had them kill the whole crew than wash.

RoccondilRinon said:

I thought it worked, because that's the kind of movie Serenity is. Star Wars is more romantic, though; a Whedonesque death could stick out in a bad way.

Also, how can you say that? You'd rather see Kaylee dead?!

What's more romantic than an heroic act of selfless sacrifice?

Whedon didn't kill Ben.

Through the first two films the main characters have narrowly escaped usually at the cost of losing other characters.

Is Lando's death really that different from that of Biggs or Dack (we know more about Lando but not that much more)?

The Falcon is Han's batchelor pad, when the heroes first meet Han is almost literally solo, Chewie is his only pal.

By the end of the saga he has a different future ahead of him with a close circle of friends and a long term (by the looks of things) relationship so blowing up his flying fortress of solotude underlines that he isn't solo anymore. He doesn't have to watch his back as much now that Jabba is out of the way, we know there is more to him than money and the Force isn't such a hokey thing to him either (his bad and funny feelings prove this).

So the death of Lando and the destruction of the Falcon serves a duel purpose, though it needs to be framed in a convincing way.

RoccondilRinon said:

You'd rather see Kaylee dead?!

good point. but she didnt wear those awesome shirts! im just praying that the star wars live action series is as good as serenity.

the thinking for the accident death was a bit like the 'death' of all the characters in lost in space (terrible film) when they attempt an escape but just launch headlong into an asteroid. its kind of cool because it just reminds me of those accidents we have when you kind of see it coimng, like falling over or dropping something. it would just be cool to be in Lando's seat, then you just see something in the corner of our eye.

though the heroism is kind of what star wars is all about. i guess it really depends on what tone the scene needs, and what point you want him to die, there is a little bit of time between the two. do we want to salute him or mourn him?

what if there are some sneaky ties in the reactor chamber, or some new form of defender ship. one could shoot the extra tie fighter that goes in (doesnt have to be wedge) and badly damages the MF, they cant seem to shake them, so Lando just rams onr f them straight into the core as a final act?

I love the look of the B-Wing so I'm up for that one.

I can't remember seeing any shots of B-Wing Pilots in their cockpits (outside the Rebel Assault II cutscenes which are sadly unusable because of the resolution, not to mention the acting).

i love the b-wings, its a crime the only feature in ROTJ really. maybe ady could sneak them in to PT:R?

it could be cool to see the bombers doing bombing runs over the star destroyers, blowing big chunks of hull out.

Return Of The Flip Shot.

I don't know about better.  More vibrant, maybe.

Well, the TMP DVD has its own breed of color issues (*cough*PINK!!!*cough*) ... it's not so much that it's better, it's that it's different.

I like the idea someone mentioned of the rebel hq ship to be smoked up like they're pretty banged up too.

Remember in the ROTJ novel when they mention how Jerrjerrod was orbiting the DS2 around so they could take out Endor?

Why not add something like that to up the time crunch and make Landos sacrifice doable?

He would sacrifice himself to save his buddy Han.