Info & Ideas: ESB and ROTJ Wishlist — Page 57

that youtube video was great davnes007. it got your ideas across really well. i still prefer SSWR briefing, as it left it on a more nervous edge, plus i would love to see the 'thanks for coming after me' from han to lando, but would still cut out some of the banter, like the 'would you get going you old pirate' to follow the tone. but it all depends on what tone you want.

for the rebel briefing, i was imagening that the commanders and crews from the hundreds of other ships would be listening in too perhpas, unless there were numerous other briefings going on at the same time. either way, it would be cool to see small holographic projections of alien captains and crew from other ships, maybe being projected around the room, and if possible, cutting briefly to other ships and seeing the briefing as a hologram.

Nice youtube link indeed! Very interesting.

About the Lando statue, there are bronze statues of Vader and Fett that exist fore sure:

Maybe Lando has one too (?), but I can't find a picture. Could be helpfull if the idea is kept.

the only problem i have about all this boba fett surviving, or basically doing anything else except for dying or being completely absent is that it would just be really distracting to the plot, and wouldnt add anything to the film. if boba had a bigger role in ANH and ESB then it would be different, but in the context of the movies, he is just a cool looking plot item.

id just have him decapitated, or at the very most, replace the burping muppets frog from outside the palace with his ship taking off.

EyeShotFirst said:

Thats not an impossible thing. If their is any way of having boba put up a good fight then that is even better. Empire Strikes Back though he didnt need to fight, You could tell by his theme music and his quietness that he was no man to mess with. Of course accourding to EU novels and comics. Boba is not a bad guy. He just does his job and that job is making money. He is in kahoots with vader though. But hey Han was an imperial officer in the EU. And luke wanted to go to the Imperial Academy along with Biggs (why did they not talk about this more. He even contradicted wanting to go to the academy when he said he had no love for the empire) maybe going to the academy was the only way of getting out of tattooine. That would make sense. It would be like joining the military if your stuck in say cookeville tennessee like I am LOL though I dont plan on joining the military. But think about it you would probably lead a successful life joining the imperial academy. Joining the rebellion well the only benefits from it is your chances of dying increase. In the empire all you have to do is avoid pissing off vader.

You really, really need to go back a bit (you sound like the sort of guy who would get a kick out reading the ideas that have been posted before, here and on the Fan-O-Matic/Starkiller thread).

Going back here might help : http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/ESB-and-ROTJ-Wishlist/topic/8826/page/17/

Here is the combined efforts of vaderios and myself applied to the problem, it would be great to see what you come up with.

Bingowings said:

vaderios said:

As Bingowings said: Some storyboard of the possibly Mr Boba's insert to Rebellion's fate.

First Shot: A ship is approaching fast a fleet (rebels) that is gathering/ or some ships whatever. It enters into a hangar.

Second Shot. We see it landing. Dark hangar. The door is open and some light fills the place. We see someone ( boba) walks down of the ship and meet some ppl.

Third shot. Behind of boba) to walk.

Fourth Shot: We see some rebels ( in the pic are random) They talk

Fifth shot: Mr B gives the plans to the rebels. A payment agreement.

Final Shot: Out of the hangar camera.We see B's ship take off and Fly to the camera.

-Angel

Here's my go, now the nod that Fett gives Boussh and the line, "I hope it's worth the price we paid for it" have different meanings.

The Rebels hire Fett to find the location and Fett get's it straight out of the Sith Lord's mouth (two paychecks for one job just like in ESB).

 

Davnes007 said:

Bingowings said:

EyeShotFirst said:

I actually have a decent idea (if it hasnt been stated yet) the shot could open outside bens house and have lukes xwing sitting outside it. or have the ship flying over tattoined and landing by bens house. Of course if you read the first 5 pages of Shadows of the empire the whole gang is at ben's house. Hmmm of course we could say fuggit and let luke be alone. Of course that will be a bitch to pull of. We would have to use existing scenes. could we even add obi wan to the shot telling him about how vader is his father. of coursse we need to see yoda die.

Ideas like yours have been discussed before (scroll back to page 20) here was my take:

 

I just put together an edit of what you might have in mind. The video spans the first hour of the movie (but I cut alot out of the footage just for the sake of time, etc). You might even get a few chuckles out of it. Ayway, just have fun watching ROTJ like you've never seen it before.

Please note: This is probably one of the weirdest looking edits ever made, but I think it sort of gets the point across, so please put aside any "it looks rushed" thoughts :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erIchJPPlyw

More great work there, I take it you have seen SomethingStarWarsRelated's take starting here : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJOLKUR-420&feature=channel_page

My take on the scene in Ben's hut take's place before the droids set out for Jabba's palace (he records his message for Jabba there and if it can be done constructs his sabre and places both in R2) which is why Threepio is outside the hut in my mockup.

But SSWR's take has Chewie being delivered before all of that and removes Threepio from that scene.

When I did my photoshop mockups I did a large image of the hut (not the Hutt) interior minus all the characters bar R2 (I kept him in to scale the other characters into the frame). My thinking being that the background would be out of focus most of the time in relation to the characters.

Perhaps someone with the HD version of ANH could do a higher rez version?

I agree it's a fine line between tell and show and tell but these are pieces of cinema and not audio drama so while some restraint can make for better story telling, sometimes you can't beat just putting it up there (the putting up there bit is more difficult).

Another sequence I suggested sometime back was to have the Falcon and Luke's X-Wing attacked as it tried to leave Tatooine (Vader wants both captured to get Luke before for the Emperor can and knows he will try to save Han at some point), once again something similar was put into the radio drama version, Star Wars is usually at it best when it has little out the frying pan into the fire moments like this and it would deliver a bit more of a punch to the end of the first act and remind us that the Empire is a much more dangerous threat than Jabba :

That would be interesting, especially if it comes after a severely shortened first act (like my personal edit would do).  I wouldn't have the technical skills to pull that off, unfortunately.

It might hurt the pacing of the film somewhat, but it would be interesting to try and see if it would work.

In my effort to keep the ideas on the SAVE LANDO!!! thread from dying when the bru ha ha ebbs down (if it ever will) I'm posting this here too :

Bingowings said:

What if the impact that knocked out the communications disk also knocked out the quad laser, that way it's not a suicide mission (well no more than usual) or down to extra shielding on the reactor, but down to not having enough firepower once the Falcon gets there.

The ship could get really badly shaved and covered in dings (meaning the cockpit is sealed in to stop fire from spreading).

That would just leave the guys in the cockpit to volunteer to ram the reactor.

It would add to the tension because the Falcon might not even make it to the reactor before blowing.

Something like this (only better) :

EyeShotFirst said:

Now how are  we gonna make lando look like he is gonna sacrifice himself. He doesnt say anything doesnt even act like hes gonna die. It wont work. Unless you go back to 83 and call up billy dee williams

Fan Editors are Challenger's Of The F*ing Impossible (sounds like a good name for a production company).

The more people say something like, "It won't work" the more someone will say, "Never tell me the odds!".

I've been working on trying to do a mockup of Luke landing near Ben's hut but I can't find the right angle for an X-Wing landing/landed.

Has anyone got something to fit in here, feel free to play with it yourselves if you have the time and the inclination (said the actress to the bishop).

Going by what he did with the Cantina aliens and what he is currently doing the ESB Yoda Adywan seems to be one guy for the job of making the Ewoks into realistic creatures.

JasonN and others have reduced the silly nature of the PT Yoda greatly too.

Editors have made even Jar-Jar interesting or at least easy to bear using a variety of approaches (Slumberland's Episode One was an eye opener as was Magnoliafan's in that score).

There are a lot of very talented people out there and more and more seem to join on as time goes by and as the technology becomes affordable and they get the bug.

The editors and fan film makers working here (on other sites and in isolation too) are doing the sort of thing a major studio would have gawped at only a few years ago.

Imagination and application can work miracles.

EyeShotFirst said:

I say with all of our imaginations f**k star wars lets make our own movie LOL

Oh that too.

I said half in jest the other day that once Adywan has finished his Revisted projects he would have the skills to make his own movies (and not just Episodes VII to IX).

But the same goes for all of us here.

You have a community here which work as script consultants, researchers, art departments, editors, prop builders, cameramen and women, special effects artists.

And everyone is doing it for free and freely encouraging people to share and run with each others ideas.

Good innit? :-)

RoccondilRinon said:

Yeah, I showed a mate of mine ANH:R and he said "Amazing talent that guy has. What's he doing wasting his time on this? He should be making his own movies." Except for the fact that I really REALLY want to see the Revisited saga completed, I would have agreed with him.

There are people on here in or graduated from film school but there are also people who are self taught and people who will never make a film but contribute ideas without which nothing would get made.

So doing this sort of thing is never a waste of time (and even if it was I can think of worse ways of wasting time) as it gets people to stretch their skills which they may (or may not) take to other things.

And helping to make Star Wars work better rather than just sitting back moaning about it (to whatever degree we do) has got to be a positive thing.

Cripes!, I'm sounding like I've swallowed a truck load of happy pills.