Info & Ideas: ESB and ROTJ Wishlist — Page 46

how about smoking piles of dead ewoks after the battle, like return of the king. no victory without sacrifice etc.

yeahhh, but it makes the point. freedom isnt free.

Teebo's got a gun.

Stormtroopers on the run.

We all have heard about adding things for the sake of adding things.  I hardly think that ROTJ needs MORE ewoks.  However, if it gives them a better purpose or makes them more fierce, someone should give it a try. 

The ewok footage also needs to match the hues, so maybe some color correction is needed to make the two match.

Sluggo said:

Teebo's got a gun.

Stormtroopers on the run.

 

We all have heard about adding things for the sake of adding things.  I hardly think that ROTJ needs MORE ewoks.  However, if it gives them a better purpose or makes them more fierce, someone should give it a try.

The ewok footage also needs to match the hues, so maybe some color correction is needed to make the two match.

Colour correction would have to be done by the editor (as would picture composition, cropping and the like, the two films are in different aspect ratios) ROTJ, in it's various forms needs colour correction anyway so whoever would make such an edit would have to clean up and colour match every insert, scene by scene and match them into a coherent whole.

Ady does this sort of thing every time he mixes an OUT element with an SE element and a new custom element (which is why he has my utter awe and respect).

It's not just the colour either as there are bound to be texture and lighting mismatches too.

The point though is to create more footage to edit from (you can't build a coffee table from a matchstick but you can get a large number of good quality matchsticks from a coffee table), the final sequence might not be longer, it might even be a lot shorter but the more you have the more you can take away without leaving huge holes.

Monroville said:

Some other things that can be considered:

(1) as previously mentioned, sharpen their claws (or give them visible ones) and their teeth

(2) change the color correction along the lines of APOCALYPSE NOW, with the greens, oranges and yellows (as seen in some of Vaderios' earlier work) being enhanced.

(3) do not add more SCENES with Ewoks per se but more Ewoks into the shots of the final battle to better give the impression of the storm troopers being overwhelmed (such as when they come up over the log when they first attack the storm troopers, add another line of Ewoks behind the first).

(4) would there be any way to depict the Ewoks as capable of burrowing under the ground (again, more references to Vietnam) and maybe pulling some storm troopers underneath?

(5) change their language to something more gutteral and more along the lines of how Chewbacca speaks.  Definitely make their war cries more frightening.

I don't think Ewoks with Wookee like voices would work, for one thing they are much smaller creatures so their voices would naturally be much higher, making them sound like annoying puppies.

Also Threepio's attempts to speak their language doesn't really match their current language so getting him to match puppy talking Ewoks would be more trouble and more silly.

 AxiaEuxine said: It never dawned on me that was upsidedown, thats gonna bug the shit out of me now...are you TRYING to ruin these films for me, sheesh

Don't worry Axia, in space there is no up or down so there is no upside down.

vaderios said:

Glow oh mighty glow!

 

he is a God afterall, which got me thinking.

How about inscriptions carved into trees and totems (made from stormtrooper parts, bones and feathers) hanging from branches on bits of string? im thinking like Pirates of the Caribbean 2. The inscriptions could be like hieroglyphs alluding maybe to a floating gold man perhaps (maybe floating in a chair?) could easily be applied subtley in background mattes.

in responce to being too gold, why the hell did they take him on the SECRET MISSION? he sticks out like a sore thumb dull or bright! they didnt evn give him a poncho!

vaderios said:

Bingowings said:

 AxiaEuxine said: It never dawned on me that was upsidedown, thats gonna bug the shit out of me now...are you TRYING to ruin these films for me, sheesh

Don't worry Axia, in space there is no up or down so there is no upside down.

In space no one can hear you scream. Stop Whining!

While we are on the subject of flip shots and the like, the flip shot of the supergunners from ANH is very annoying, this one (or is it the other way around?) :

other than getting someone else in costume to film a new element is there anything that can be done to make it look different (what about having the gun section pointing up or right at the screen)?

It's bad enough that the gunners are doing exactly the same thing in both movies but I guess they are roughly the same design so it makes sense that they would push the same buttons but those are the same guys (aren't they dead or are they clones?) shielding their eyes in exactly the same way.

Later on the beam does get more intense so it's only like that when it's building up but I see your point about the guys, wouldn't they be vapourised when the beam reached full strength anyway?

It's like that in ANH so I suppose it's too late to change it but does have to be exactly the same, with exactly the same guys, just flipped around?

any thought of adding old Naboo starfighters to the death star 2 battle just to show how stretched their resources are

while were talking about this, how 'bout some jedi star fighters?