Info & Ideas: ESB and ROTJ Wishlist — Page 37

doubleofive said:

RotJ:R Suggestion Summary:

Italics: Adywan has confirmed considering this.
Strikethrough: Adywan has denied ever doing this.

Opening:

1. Consider the more radical re-edits to the entire movie (RotJ: Fan-O-Matic)
2. Change the opening crawl to something more dramatic than "Luke Skywalker has returned to his home planet of Tatooine in an attempt to rescue his friend Han Solo from the clutches of the vile gangster Jabba The Hutt"
3. Add evidence of construction vehicles working on the Death Star, maybe even as just hints of movement around the incomplete side.
4. Replace the shot of the Star Destroyer going overhead with a shot of the shuttle coming from the Executor.

Tatooine:

1. Remove Boba Fett from the film.
2. Alter the door droid to be more menacing.
3. Add scan beams for the door droid.
4. Change Jawa eyes to match ANH.
5. "Cantina"-ize Jabba's speech and expressions.
6. "Cantina"-ize other aliens in the Palace.
7. Make Bib Fortuna's tentacles move occasionally.
8. Remove Greedo's dialog from the background noice in Jabba's Palace.
9. Remove 3PO's line of "Look, it's Captain Solo and he's still frozen in Carbonite!"
10. Cut down on Salacious Crumb's laughter.
11. Cut/shorten the Droid Torture scene.
12. Remove Jedi Rocks.
13. Remove Fett flirting with the dancer.
14. Restore Lapti Nek.
15. Fix the flipped shots of Fett.
16. Change Boushh's dialog to be a more "realistic" language.
17. Mix up Jabba's minion's reaction to Boushh's thermal detenator so Fett isn't the only one who pulls out his gun.
18. Cut Lando pulling his mask down after he hits his head on the low ceiling.
19. Remove Lando hitting his head on the low ceiling.
20. Remove the belch from the creature outside Jabba's Palace.
21. Enhance the carbonite thawing process.
22. Add Han's restraints when he is unfrozen.
23. Remove Han's scene with Chewie in the dungeons.
24. Remove Luke using Force Choke on the guards.
25. Don't have Luke raise his hand to Force Choke the guards.
26. Add Mara Jade (from the EU) to Jabba's Palace.
27. Have one of the guards shoot at Luke when he tries to leave the Rancor Pit.
    
28. Make the gate Luke tries to leave the Rancor Pit electrified.
29. Have the door come down harder on the Rancor, perhaps through the Force.
    
30. Cut the Rancor Keeper's mourning.
31. Remove SE Bantha herd.
32. Add bigger sails to barges.
33. Add sails to skiffs.
34. Restore pre-SE Sarlacc.
35. Add more menancing sounds to the SE Sarlacc.
36. Fix jump cut as R2's panel comes open and the lightsaber pops up.
37. Add the knob to the top of the emitter to the saber that comes out of R2.
38. Shorten the amount of time Luke has his hand in the air waiting for his lightsaber.
39. "Restore" Luke's lightsaber to the preproduction blue.
40. Make it so Luke's lightsaber leaves slash marks on Jabba's crew.
41. Remove/replace the scream as Fett spirals out of control.
42. Make it so Han deliberately hits or shoots Fett using shots from later in the movie.
43. Make it so Luke beheads Fett.
44. Make it so Luke deflects a bolt at Fett which sets off his backpack.
45. Fix Fett's jetpack as they come out at the wrong angle currently.
46. Have Fett shoot at the Sarlacc as he falls into it.
47. Add a shot of Fett crawling/flying out of the Sarlacc.
48. Fix it so Luke actually kicks the guard while Fett flies out of control in the background.
49. Restore Han's "Trust me" line.
50. Make it so Luke doesn't have his hand straight up in the air to get shot.
51. Remove Luke's hand damage from before he gets shot.
52. Attempt to restore the deleted Sandstorm scene and remove the ship-to-ship conversation.

Dagobah:

1. "Cantina"-ize Yoda.
2. Do something about Yoda's obvious rubber hand during his death scene.
3. Tweak/cut Yoda's disappearance.
4. Recolor the blue Force Ghosts to prevent confusion with blue holograms.
5. No Luke/Leia relation.

Rebel Fleet:

1. Expand Rebel Briefing Room set.
2. Recut Rebel Briefing.
3. Shorten/cut the huggy Luke and Co. reunion ("I'm with you too" and on).
4. Different Shuttle Class for Tydyrium.
5. Replace/enhance matte painting of Rebel docking bay.

Forest Moon of Endor:

1. Add Endor so that the Forest Moon is actually a moon of something.
2. Change Ewoks to Wookiees.
3. Complete removal of Ewoks.
4. "Cantina"-ize the Ewoks.
5. Add 3PO's line "I believe they are called... Ewoks" from the Radio Drama.
6. Add some camouflage to some of the Imperial troops.
7. Stabilize the speeder bikes during the chase.
8. Adjust the scene so it looks like the Scout pushes Luke off of his speeder bike.
9. Make 3PO's flying chair scene more scary, so the Ewoks don't just freak out about a floating droid.
10. Do something with Leia remembering her mother, her real mother.
11. Change Vader's line of "Obi-wan once thought as you do" to "Your mother once thought as you do".
12. Cut Teebo's Speeder Bike Adventure.
13. Add dialog to make it seem like the Rebels have people on the inside already to help out.
14. Add more Imperial laser fire as the Ewoks attack.
15. Add some gore to the Ewoks attacking.
16. Add AT-AT to ground battle.
17. Cut Chewie's Tarzan yell.
18. Enhance AT-ST explosion that is crushed between the two logs.
19. Enhance AT-ST explosion that is shot by Chewie's AT-ST.
20. Remove the stormtroopers and guards constantly saying "Freeze!"
21. Remove Harrison Ford's reflection from safety glass as he runs from the bunker.
22. The shield generator explosion is huge and looks like it would probably wipe out everyone in the area.
    

Death Star Attack:

1. Restore two Death Stars concept (See posts starting here).
   
2. Rebel fighters crashing into the DS shield.
3. More fighters overall (B-wings and A-wings especially).
4. Fix garbage spots in "one of the battle shots" where ships were not added.
5. Just before Lando says "Yes, I said closer", some of the background ships don't tilt with the rest of the shot.
6. Remove green matte boxes around ships.
7. Remove/replace some of the copy/paste capital ships.
8. Add more laser fire as the capital ships should be pounding on one another (a la the RotS opening).
9. Have the DS laser strafe a little to hit more than one ship at a time.
10. Add shots of Rebel capital ships attacking the surface of the DS (storyboard)
11. Have Piett realize the error of his ways and start attacking his own fleet.
12. Better end to the Executor (Have Piett crash it into the DS deliberately; Have dozens of Rebel ships kamikaze into it; After it is crashing towards the surface, have it hit other ships on its way down).
13. Add shots of the gunner stations on the DS (from ANH)
14. Redub the Rebel pilot line: "Copy, Gold Leader".
15. Kill Lando, blow up the Falcon. Justify Han's feeling like he's "never going to see her again."
16. Remove ring from DS explosion.

Death Star Interior - Luke/Vader Duel:

1. Replace/enhance cardboard troopers during the Emperor's arrival.
2. Replace the Emperor's advisers with Nemoidians.
3. Move the Throne Room from the easy target of a tower to something a bit more subtle.
4. Fix the Emperor's "slugs".
5. Move the exterior battle closer to the Throne Room window as it should be (a la the RotS opening).
6. Remove/soften the more obvious lightsaber blade shadows.
7. Fix large black matte that covers half the screen when Vader is kicked down the stars.
8. Fix Vader's blade coming out the wrong end of his saber as he throws it to cut the catwalk.
9. Remove Luke's lightsaber from Vader's hand while Luke is hiding.
10. Edit Vader's dialog to hiding Luke to remove some "cheesy" lines.
11. Add Luke pulling his lightsaber out of Vader's hand after he is done hiding.
12. Add Sith eyes while Luke is beating Vader.
13. Cut some of Luke's angry hits on Vader while he's down.
14. Add more Sith Lightning.
15. Tighten up Vader's hesitation to save Luke from the Emperor.
16. Add Qui Gon voiceover to Vader's hesitation to imply that Qui Gon passes his secrets of Jedi Ghosthood to Anakin.
17. Add flashbacks to Vader's hesitation of Padme, his mother, Qui Gon, etc.
18. Fix saber on/off issues.
19. Restore Sebastian Shaw's eyebrows to the unmasking scene.
20. Fix the transition from Sebastian Shaw's face to the bald cap he wears.

Ending:

1. Fix Luke's lazy eye as he looks at the funeral pyre.
2. Add Leia viewing the funeral pyre.
3. Remove SE celebrations.
4. Restore pre-2004 buildings to the background of the Coruscant celebration.
5. Remove the "Weesa free!" line from the Naboo celebration.
6. Restore Yub Nub.
7. Find new music for the ending.
8. Add a shot of an Imperial Officer shaking hands with a Rebel to show the beginnings of peace.
9. Restore Sebastian Shaw as Anakin's Force Ghost.
10. Attempt to morph Shaw and Christensen into the Anakin Force Ghost.
11. Add other Jedi from the prequels appearing next to Obi-wan, Yoda, and Anakin.

 

Either with two Death Stars or one I don't think Piett should ever attack his fleet, he should attack the Death Star to defend his fleet from an Emperor who is firing willy nilly into the battle zone destroying his own ships as much as the Rebel ones.

Piett never joins the Rebels as such, he dies believing in the Empire but loses faith in the Emperor and Vader (like Julius Caesar and Caligula being assassinated by their own men).

doubleofive said:

Didn't phrase it right.  Will fix it.

F.A.B.

(you really love those red monitors on stands!:P) i think it looks brilliant! and the red does look great.

what do you think about adding statues or sculptued mural perhaps? like the ones from his office, to just link the two locations a bit more.

My two pennies worth on the Emperor laughing, "No Want!!".

Palpatine isn't insane he is old and over confident (which explains why he acts like a bit of a git instead of being a calm and quiet sort of evil chap).

I can imagine him trying to figure out a way out of it all the way down to the bottom of the shaft (and failing because his time is finally up).

But he is certainly taken by surprise so his current response makes sense.

Making him laugh might be a set up for EU stuff like Dark Empire but I'm not comfortable with the EU slipping into the films (especially when we are suggesting many great ideas which move this film away from the EU).

It looks a bit like a Sith Lord skateboard park.

Another suggestion that seems to have slipped off the wish list is the AT-AT in the ground battle idea, I'd love to see some Ewok traps for that monster.

Sorry couldn't see the walker for the trees.

My eye sight will return in time (I hope), I'm paranoid now, is the Boba Fett selling the Death Star location to the Rebels (while getting paid to do so be Darth Vader) plot in there?

I've looked the list up and down half a dozen times but I did when I made my last mistake.

vaderios said:

Still a bit impossible. i mean the AT-AT has to do a big debut like it comes in the battle after it broke some trees etc. So an AT-AT scene need to be extensive and no idea how ady can blend all  these elements. Plus AT-AT requires far shots and different camera angles. If you consider all that you may start donate to ady to buy an AT-AT repica... :D

 

-Angel

If he says he will try it I'm sure the money will come from somewhere.

And if he doesn't want to do it it should still get a mention on here just in case there is another who might add it after Ady has done what he wants to do.

Monroville said:

EyeShotFirst said:

Monroville.

"You want the impossible" Though most of your Ideas were great like the Blade Runner style emperors Tower. but a project of that magnitude though amazing. Is a completely new movie ILM couldnt do that with their 3 year coffee breaks (i know they work hard but dayam some of you do more by yourself than they do with their army of editors) but the ideas are good just very hard to produce.

"YOUR TASTE BUDS CANT DEFLECT FLAVOR OF THAT MAGNATIUDE" Admiral Ackbar

I know, I know... >:)

Just wishlisting I guess.  I understand that quite a bit of it is just a matter of throwing it out there just to see what people think.  Maybe there is a way to do some of it, maybe not (and that's if Ady likes the idea).  The main point was to point out the PROBLEMS I have with JEDI and what could possibly be done to fix them in a more palatble way.  Other than taking shots from other movies (be it EMPIRE or even anything outside of STAR WARS) I don't see how a lot of it can be done.

 

There are lots of ways of getting these ideas done (building and filming physical models, making CGI ones, matte work etc).

The ideas are the important thing.

If you put ideas out there someone might be able to find a way.

If the ideas stay in your head no one will know about them.