I seriously wouldn't mind a bit of gore (consistent with ANH and ESB) in the Ewok attacks.
If you are going to sell the idea that they were fierce warrior people who just happened to be short and furry it makes sense and the trooper outfits are enough to mask the violence so it's not Game Of Thrones with teddy bears.
Some human bones in the village along with all the Trooper helmets would be a step in the right direction.
Eeeeh.....
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Bingowings said:
I seriously wouldn't mind a bit of gore (consistent with ANH and ESB) in the Ewok attacks.
Yup.....damn film is just too friendly right now.
thejediknighthusezni said:
Leia might pause for a moment confused as if she sensed something.
Yeah I could see Leia looking back while walking off with Luke, seeing ONLY Anakin (Ben and Yoda have faded away).....looking confused but then suddenly understanding.
I think the whole brother sister thing was done wrong...
I did a rough cut of ROTJ and I based the edit off of this plot line somewhat.
Luke does not need to tell Leia she is his sister to protect her. As Ben told him to do so. (That is important I think)
When Leia get's shot in the arm I put this against the scene where Vader senses that Luke has a sister (preferably cutting Leia killing the storm troopers while Han says "I Love you" and Leia says "I know")
I cut all the Jealousy out between Han and Leia
And I tried to use the scene where he does reveal that she is his sister at the party as they are both still wearing the same clothes and makes it plausible. Although it cut's off short and feels like there needs to be more.
But I altered the dialogue of Luke "The force run's strong in my family.... I have it... and my Sister has it" Because Vader has now gone, the father of them both.
If only I could have added Luke saying "I was right" that would be what was needed to top it off and Leia nodding. or something along those lines.
So, a moral problem I've been wondering about: WOULD Luke have gone back to Yoda? Think about it. He clearly feels betrayed by Yoda and Ben at the end of ESB, so the question is, would he have gone back? Or would he simply feel too betrayed to go back?
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muddyknees2000 said:
It's rough, but here you go:
I was thinking about this, and perhaps Threepio could state that Han, Luke, Chewie & Leia (oh and Artoo) are to be a sacrifice/offering to some kind of grey beast: the AT-AT
timdiggerm said:
muddyknees2000 said:
It's rough, but here you go:
I was thinking about this, and perhaps Threepio could state that Han, Luke, Chewie & Leia (oh and Artoo) are to be a sacrifice/offering to some kind of grey beast: the AT-AT
That would be amazing! If it was the Ewoks' own idea, it would the perfect combination of humor, shock, and suspense. You're a genius!!
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Awe-inspiring posts, my friends!
As is my hobby as of late, I was surfing through ancient threads. There were some familiar faces, but many who disappeared some time ago.
Does anyone remember a user by the name of JasonN? He has been gone for nearly a year. He had a vision for ROTJ. A humble, yet profound and achievable vision that could do to be resurrected, I think.
It was radical enough that I cannot operate under the delusion either adywan or Possessed would ever even consider it, but surely there are other members who are willing.
Reegar said:
Awe-inspiring posts, my friends!
As is my hobby as of late, I was surfing through ancient threads. There were some familiar faces, but many who disappeared some time ago.
Does anyone remember a user by the name of JasonN? He has been gone for nearly a year. He had a vision for ROTJ. A humble, yet profound and achievable vision that could do to be resurrected, I think.
It was radical enough that I cannot operate under the delusion either adywan or Possessed would ever even consider it, but surely there are other members who are willing.
Could you provide us with links to his vision?
Here we are. :)
Jason's PT edits are high up in my best list (I can't remember the last time I saw the theatrical PT).
I always wished for a bit of sunset of Hoth...
Tack said:
So, a moral problem I've been wondering about: WOULD Luke have gone back to Yoda? Think about it. He clearly feels betrayed by Yoda and Ben at the end of ESB, so the question is, would he have gone back? Or would he simply feel too betrayed to go back?
I'd say Luke is more confused and conflicted than betrayed at the end of Empire. He's not sure that what Vader has told him is the truth. Yoda and Ben obviously know what's up so he would be crazy to not go to them and find the answers, where he will learn that Vader is the only one not lying to him. It's the conversations with Yoda and Ben in ROTJ that leave Luke feeling betrayed. This is a point I think the film should have hit harder on. Luke's mentors have twisted the facts in order to get him to do something he otherwise may have went against. This would be weighing heavily on Lukes mind as he is hiding in the shadows from Vader and a good reason for him to turn against his former allies and make a new father/son team with dear ol' dad.
Bingowings said:
Jason's PT edits are high up in my best list (I can't remember the last time I saw the theatrical PT).
I'm on the border of total prequel dismissal, skeptical they can be salvaged. But these edits might be worth giving a chance.
What is your present attitude toward the thread I posted earlier? You seemed open-minded about it back then, but that was years ago. And as a fellow ROTJ critic, I value your posts.
The re-write thread or the 'how would you do Ep6' thread?
I'll have another look when I get time (really over did things today an beginning to show some fraying).
thejediknighthusezni said:
^Interesting thought. The other moral problem is why did the most powerful living Jedi sit in a swamp for 20 years while the galaxy burned. There wasn't anything he could do beyond Dagobah? I suppose it could have been addressed with some quick expo about Yoda making such a strong impression in the Force that he could instantly be found beyond the Force-obscuring power of the bog world, thus blowing any operation and bringing the combined might of the Emp and Vader down on him. Luke refusing to return would help with logistics, certainly. Ben would need to stay close to protect Luke. ;/
Keep in mind that originally Yoda was a lot more like Pai Mei, in that he was the crazy old wizard/martial art master living in the wilderness one had to search for and win over in order to garner their guidance.
Yoda wasn't supposed to be a politician or Jedi "leader".... he was supposed to be a hermit, or akin to the Shaolin Monks or Christian missionaries.
“You people must realize that the public owns you for life, and when you’re dead, you’ll all be in commercials dancing with vacuum cleaners.”
– Homer Simpson
Just as Obi-Wan has aspects of Merlin so in that respect his 'certain point of view' line has some of the necessary slipperiness.
So I was thinking about Death Star II and how that it woks as a trap and Lure for the Rebels and is fine up to a point but one of the fundamental issues with the Death Star II is that it fires Lasers powerful enough to destroy a planet at tiny Rebel Ships.
I doubt this would be possible but what if the Death Star II fired on one of Endor's Moons and the chunks of Rock from this destruction destroyed the Rebel Ships.
Almost like a two part trap with the Imperials positioned in such a way as to push them into a fatal blast radius to make the Death Star II's weapon more lethally effective in another way.
I think once the executor crashes into Death Star II this renders it's Super Laser fire power redundant and only surface fire and the towers would be a threat.
But something like this would still fit with the dialogue whist mixing it up.
and on the flip side of this the imperial fleet needs to be positioned defensively around the Death Star II when it blows up to help explain their strange disappearance.
i.e. Huge chunks of metal colliding with Star destroyers taking them down with it it when it goes off.
Ronster said:
So I was thinking about Death Star II and how ... it fires Lasers powerful enough to destroy a planet at tiny Rebel Ships.
I doubt this would be possible but what if the Death Star II fired on one of Endor's Moons and the chunks of Rock from this destruction destroyed the Rebel Ships.
I've always had issue with the powerful, planet crushing DSII laser being used to destroy a battleship. But I'd have even more issue with it taking out a moon of Endor. Seems that the debris from the explosion would not only take out Rebel ships, but also Imperial ones and maybe even the moon our heroes are on (they're on a moon as well, right? Not the planet itself? I can't remember exactly, but I remember Akbar saying "The forest-moon of Endor.").
Destroying a capital ship like a Mon Calamari cruiser still took a great deal of firepower from a similar ship, such as a star destroyer. And in order to unleash its full power on the Mon Cal cruiser meant getting close enough for return fire with damaged/destroyed ships and loss of life. It seems logical to use a weapon that could easily overwhelm the opponent's shields and destroy the ship without incurring any loss on your own part. The superlaser could easily be dialed down from its full planet-destroying level and recharged quickly enough to take out several ships. It's a smart tactical move: pin your opponent against a wall (the Imperial Fleet in this case) and use your overpowering weapon against them. It then is simply a shooting gallery. And yes, they are all on "the forest moon of Endor," so what else would they shoot?
