Info & Ideas: ESB and ROTJ Wishlist — Page 305

It seems that the Falcon and Wedge only have the explosion to out ride on the way out of the Death Star 2 after all the twists and turns of the way in.

Pacing is a premium and yes those obstacles could still be there and arguably we don't need to see them but if we saw a twist or two (and maybe a collapsing of some of the tunnel elements) it might add even more tension on the way out.

Not as many wiggles as the way in but enough to remind us that the wiggles are still there.

If I was the emperor I would install a flap in there somewhere.

There has been a lot of talk about what had been planned for the huge space battle.

B-Wings doing more, Ships on Fire, Rebel Blocade runners ramming ships. 

Does anyone have a link to storyboards or other material?

I just discovered that there was a The Making of Return of the Jedi Book from 1983.

http://www.amazon.com/Making-Star-Wars-Return-Jedi/dp/034531235X

Anyone have a copy of this?

I am sure Ady when he goes to re-do the big space battle will draw upon the ideas that the original creative team had come up with but couldn't do.

Matticon

Thanks Timdiggerm.

I've seen the ralph mcquarie art done with compositited photo for West End Games.

http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/8/81/Starfall.jpg

I wonder if this was a half completed shot...

Matticon

Of course I find a better picture of it 5 min later...

http://www.myconfinedspace.com/wp-content/uploads/tdomf/88754/Bwingvsdestroyer.jpg

Matticon

ugh... broken link.

http://www.id-wall.com/images/large/472-c.jpg

Matticon said:

There has been a lot of talk about what had been planned for the huge space battle.

B-Wings doing more, Ships on Fire, Rebel Blocade runners ramming ships.

Does anyone have a link to storyboards or other material?

I just discovered that there was a The Making of Return of the Jedi Book from 1983.

http://www.amazon.com/Making-Star-Wars-Return-Jedi/dp/034531235X

Anyone have a copy of this?

I am sure Ady when he goes to re-do the big space battle will draw upon the ideas that the original creative team had come up with but couldn't do.

Matticon

Yeah I've got a rather battered copy of it (I must of lent it to someone at some point because the spine has been over worked and some of the pages are loose).

It's quite an interesting read.

Bingowings

Is there anything of interest to Adywan in there?

Matticon

I am sure some of you might have seen this but it is rather funny and makes some interesting comments on ROTJ.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Irynh3XHvmM

If he hasn't already read it I'm sure he would find the whole thing interesting.

Not much in the way of dropped plot ideas that can't be found elsewhere but it does break down the process of making the film in some detail.

You'd be better asking him personally.

I think there is a thread on the Star Wars discussion boards about Star Wars making of books (if not there should be).

Matticon said:

ugh... broken link.

http://www.id-wall.com/images/large/472-c.jpg

Ah, the memories! I still have somewhere a RotJ sticker album from back the 1980's, that picture was the "The Rebels defeat the Empire!" one... :)

Found this pic. Thought it looked cool.

Is that TV Frink's old avatar there with a different hat?

J

Jaitea said:

Is that TV Frink's old avatar there with a different hat?

J

That's not TV's Frink's old avatar...that's TV's Frink! ;-)

The one holding Luke's saber looks...well...

It would have been a nice twist if some of the Rebels were compelled to hand over Luke for an amnesty.

Remember this piece of concept art?

Its a shame nothing like it was used in the film, as it might have given us a look at an OT seatrooper, or water based assault...

muddyknees2000 said:

Sorry if you didn't intend this, but I couldn't help but laugh at this image.  I love the flippers :-)

lol....i dont mind at all....if I'm not mistaken its a custom action figure...I just pasted it into the image to give a rough idea of what a scene with sea troopers might look like. Its not my creation at all. Whoever created it actually used the jetpack from the rocketeer (which just looks all kinds of wrong)

Theres not much in the way of seatrooper imagery out there. As far as I know, this is it

I think I remember seeing some costumes done for a convention a while back, but it definitely would have been nice to see them on film

I could easily see them having both.

As for where a scene like this might fit into the film, I believe it would go right after Luke surrenders himself to Vader. Vader gives the order for the troops to search out Luke's remaining friends, but we never see anything come of it, the very next scene is Han, Leia and company attacking the bunker. It would add more urgency if on the morning of the attack it was shown that imperial troops were attacking ewok settlements, looking for them. You don't even need any of the main characters, just show troopers raiding different ewok villages. One of them could be on a lake as per the mcquarrie concept art, thereby bringing the seatroopers into play

its just too bad the Ewok movies aren't on blu-ray, as theres footage there that could definitely be useful......

muddyknees2000 said:

I could easily see them having both.

As for where a scene like this might fit into the film, I believe it would go right after Luke surrenders himself to Vader. Vader gives the order for the troops to search out Luke's remaining friends, but we never see anything come of it, the very next scene is Han, Leia and company attacking the bunker. It would add more urgency if on the morning of the attack it was shown that imperial troops were attacking ewok settlements, looking for them. You don't even need any of the main characters, just show troopers raiding different ewok villages. One of them could be on a lake as per the mcquarrie concept art, thereby bringing the seatroopers into play

 While not in love with the "sea troopers" concept (feels like a ploy for a new action figure to me), this story point is AWESOME, ups the dramatic odds in act three, and makes perfect sense story-wise.