Info & Ideas: ESB and ROTJ Wishlist — Page 22

Diverging a bit onto a different issue, just adding eyelids to the Ewoks does make them more like real creatures :

SomethingStarWarsRelated said:

Bingowings said:

ChainsawAsh said:

I don't think it's ridiculous to assume that two random droids coming to a gangster's palace with a message from someone who's a friend of a current prisoner would be commandeered and put to work.  I don't have a problem with the lack of the message - the point of the message was to A) communicate to the audience that Luke is now a Jedi, and b) remind the audience that Solo is imprisoned.  In our theoretical edit, both of these things have already been clearly communicated through Boussh's delivery of Chewie, where Jabba shows off Solo, and through Luke's conversation with dying Yoda.  In this edit, the message is redundant, but we still need the droids there for the sail barge part.

Not exactly because sending the droids of as a gift deliberately puts the droids into position take away the message and the audience doesn't know why Luke sent them there and their capture will seem more of an accident than part of a plot on Luke's part.

Besides the message show's that Luke gave diplomacy a chance and used violence as the last remaining option (short of leaving Han where he was and letting Leia get herself killed or worse still captured and trained by the Emperor).

 

I'm not trying to promote myself but:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOnxPTb9sP0&feature=channel_page

This might address some of the things you've brought up...

Yes it's rough, it's meant to illustrate a concept not wow an audience so I'm fine with that.

It does demonstate that to get the scene to work Ben really needs to be indoors or at least near some rocks, his sitting down in thin air looks very wierd (I know he's a ghost so he doesn't need to sit down but sadly George/Sir Alec/Mark/Mr Marquand etc didn't think that through).

I will try to fiddle about with the film myself and put it onto Youtube and compare the various approaches suggested here (and mine will probably look as slick as yours, maybe not even as slick it will be almost my first attempt at this sort of thing).

A very smart laser beam...

I've been listening to the ROTJ radio version to see if there is anything that can be pinched from there.

The acting is rather variable, sadly not a patch on the other two but there is one added plotline that could add a bit of impact to the movie.

Vader is fully aware that Luke and/or his friends would attempt to rescue Han so they have Imperial ships observing Tatooine for any sign of a rescue.

To give cover for the Falcon and Luke's escape Artoo patched into Jabba's computer network to send a warning to his employees that the Empire are clamping down and have death warrants causing a mass exodus of Bounty Hunters and the like (the bounty hunters escaping would be difficult to achieve without new live action footage but an Imperial blockade makes immediate plot sense and wouldn't need much in the way of exposition).

It would give Luke's return to Tatooine a bit of a punch if he had to shoot his way in and out, as I said earlier it seems a shame that we don't see Luke the pilot in the final episode, just Luke the knight.

It would underline how desperate Vader is to get at Luke before Palpatine does.

vaderios said:

One more...

-Angel

Jedi seems to be riddled with cock-ups like this.

It's certainly the contractual obligation album of the OT.

I'd remove the "indeed you are powerful as the Emperor has foreseen." bit from that scene.

I know the EU has made a big thing of Lightsabre construction but it does reduce Jedi Knighthood to the level of home improvement.

The skills bit can stay as building a laser sword from scratch takes skill but the end of the line sounds silly.

Bingowings said:

vaderios said:

One more...

-Angel

Jedi seems to be riddled with cock-ups like this.

It's certainly the contractual obligation album of the OT.

I'd remove the "indeed you are powerful as the Emperor has foreseen." bit from that scene.

I know the EU has made a big thing of Lightsabre construction but it does reduce Jedi Knighthood to the level of home improvement.

The skills bit can stay as building a laser sword from scratch takes skill but the end of the line sounds silly.

Luke is powerful for making somehow turning his light saber green because before then there was only blue wielded by the Jedi and red by the Dark Jedi. by Adywan's reasoning anyway if i remember correctly. look at it that way it works

The colour thing is even more daft in my opinion.

 VADER'S THOUGHT BUBBLE : "Mmm a green blade...nobody thought of that one before...he must be stronger than all those other Jedi I killed. This is going to be a tough cookie to crack, I'll just get him in a corner and tell him that Princess he's been snogging is his sister, that'll do it! I mean, it's not likely to be true but he seems the kind of kid that'll fall for that sort of thing...still green blade. Green, why did it have to be Green?"

it would be awesome if that were the only green sabre in the whole saga.

i noticed the chestplate!

ben_danger said:

it would be awesome if that were the only green sabre in the whole saga.

 

i noticed the chestplate!

 And the belt buckle too great work ain't? I did notice ergo the cock-up statement.

Perhaps you're right. How could color choice be indicative of powerfulness?

but i'd still like to see the prequel Jedi only wielding blue light sabers

vaderios said:

Who wants flying heads?

I want FATALITIES

-Angel ;)

The top left original does seem to be the Bohemian Rhapsody video of lightsabre blades, it's all over the place, good work commander!

awwwwwweeeesome! love the head!

this belongs in prequel thread, but could you have a crack at making varying blue lightsabers on prequel jedi? an obvious thought would be palps office. pretty please?:)

Oh, THAT looks MUCH better.  I've always thought the only green blade should be Luke's in ROTJ.

If it could be done I'd try dubbing Yoda's repeat of his first lesson to Luke while he is dying so instead of saying "Once you start down the Dark path etc..." He says the lines from ROTS "Rejoice for those around you who transform into the Force. Mourn them do not" (it may be impossible to modulate and break up the line to get that near death performance but I'll give it a go).

Yoda is sensing that Luke's doubts are growing now that he is losing his teacher, Ben later reminds him not to underestimate Vader and the Emperor.

Luke got the dark path lesson in ESB he hasn't received that nugget of wisdom from Yoda yet and it would be a sensible parallel with Anakin's fear of losing his wife and Luke's fear of losing his sister being the pivots on which their anger and potential to do evil balance.

what if ghost yoda was in bens hut too? wouldnt make much sence, but if the dialogue from the beginning was cut/changed. additional dialogue could be used later if he appears as a ghost. alternatively he could just appear silently.

ben_danger said:

what if ghost yoda was in bens hut too? wouldnt make much sence, but if the dialogue from the beginning was cut/changed. additional dialogue could be used later if he appears as a ghost. alternatively he could just appear silently.

I think Luke would just associate that place with Ben and seeing Yoda's ghost so early would detract from his appearence at the end with his saved father.

In a way taking Ben away from Dagobah helps affirm Yoda's link to his home too.

In ESB we heard Ben's voice and saw him for a few seconds but really Dagobah is Yoda's domain so having Ben wandering around it seems a bit weird (on Hoth Ben could just float for a few seconds).