Info & Ideas: ESB and ROTJ Wishlist — Page 208

Isn't this the point where Rob comes in and tells us how gay this thread has become?

doubleofive said:

Ripplin said:

Once upon a time, I used to look forward to reading this thread...

I think I've added one thing to the list in the last couple weeks.  And I'm not sure it was even serious (having grandstands at the Pit of Carkoon/moving the Sarlacc to the old Mos Espa Speedway).

Haha, it was indeed a serious suggestion. Not moving the Sarlacc, the first idea. I don't see why such executions wouldn't be public on a planet like Tatooine.

bkev said:

TV's Frink said:

Isn't this the point where Rob comes in and tells us how gay this thread has become?

Wait... aren't you a semi-newbie? How do you know of Rob?

 Maybe he's not really new?

I lurked for at least a year before joining up and posting, but yeah, I'm fairly new.  But to answer the question, I have done some reading of past threads that looked like they might have some silly entertainment value.  Rob, Stinky-Dinkins, HLF, and so on.  I know a lot of people get annoyed at those kind of threads, but I find them strangely enjoyable.  Stupid, but enjoyable.

I'm sure this comes as no surprise.

Who are those guys?

Well, if you really want to kill off most of your brain cells, do a forum search for 'em.  Or just go through some of the older "Off Topic" threads.  The hot.like.fire thread is especially mind-numbing.

TV's Frink said:

Well, if you really want to kill off most of your brain cells, do a forum search for 'em.  Or just go through some of the older "Off Topic" threads.  The hot.like.fire thread is especially mind-numbing.

 I might just do that. I came in to work today expecting to be laden with ten more projects to do and we haven't received them yet, so I'm twiddling my proverbials.

Octorox said:

Darth Venal said:

Ghost said:

Sometimes you need to break from the story a little bit to make the overall movie better to watch. 

Christ, are you joking? If there is one, single cardinal rule of film-making, it is that you never, ever break from the story. Everything else is secondary. Everything, be it some fantastic scene that you really want to keep, or a great FX sequence. If they don't contribute to the plot, they have to go. If you don't get that, don't waste time trying to do anything with movies.

Do you know why people got bored with the fights and battles in the prequels? Because they wasted time showing us "pretty stuff to watch" when they should have been advancing the story. Yes, you can have duels and battles. But they should serve their function to the plot and nothing more.

 

Correct, one, single cardinal rule of Hollywood filmmaking. If you're talking about a 3 act narrative structure yes. If you're talking about an episodic structure, no. Ever heard of Italian neorealism? It tends to "waste time" on small everyday events that often don't have anything to do with the narrative, but allow the characters to breathe and reflect their reality, as if they were you and I. Also, when a film has a very deep message, it is usually a good idea to force some long takes to give the audience a chance to reflect on what they just saw.

You're also completely throwing experimental or non-narrative structure out of the window.

 

Sorry, I'll shut up now. I believe you are in the industry and I'm a lowly first year film student so I probably don't know what I'm talking about...but yeah I would say in a Star Wars film you wouldn't want long breaks from the narrative.

This isn't art-house cinema. This isn't Dinner with Andre. This is traditional narrative film making. So Venal and Bingo are correct in pointing out the importance of set-up,conflict, and resolution.

shanerjedi said:

This isn't art-house cinema. This isn't Dinner with Andre. This is traditional narrative film making. So Venal and Bingo are correct in pointing out the importance of set-up,conflict, and resolution.

You said it. This is Dinner with Padme. (With resource-consuming CG fruit, because that's obviously a much better way to shoot a scene than just giving her a goddamn pear!)

Have you ever tried to force-levitate a real pear?  Those suckers are heavy.

TV's Frink said:

Have you ever tried to force-levitate a real pear?  Those suckers are heavy.

And rabid hippy that Lucas is, he probably didn't want to harm a real pear in the making of this motion picture. I guess he is a friend of fruits after all.

:-)

How do you get to the middle of the threads eisier (not having to go one page at a time)?

Like page 100 or any page. 

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/ESB-and-ROTJ-Wishlist/topic/8826/page/100/

Just replace the page number in the link with whatever page you're looking for.

Monroville said:

Is anybody getting the impression that this thread and EMPIRE:R are becoming facebook pages?

 Darth Venal is not of that opinion.

Thanks TV's Frink.  I want to see some ideas and mockups I might of missed.

Darth Venal said:

Monroville said:

Is anybody getting the impression that this thread and EMPIRE:R are becoming facebook pages?

 Darth Venal is not of that opinion.

Darth Venal referred to himself in third person.  Ric Olie observed it.

Oh yah, I forgot about that.  I did read that 2 times and even showed it to other people.

I'm not thinking right now.

About the 005 page, are you guys for the Boba Fett changes? (the having him take the plans to the rebels).  It could work. I don't know how you would make the new scenes.  It would take him out of the SB battle, therefore shortning it.  How would you kill him off, the Falcon? 

shanerjedi said:

Octorox said:

Darth Venal said:

Ghost said:

Sometimes you need to break from the story a little bit to make the overall movie better to watch. 

Christ, are you joking? If there is one, single cardinal rule of film-making, it is that you never, ever break from the story. Everything else is secondary. Everything, be it some fantastic scene that you really want to keep, or a great FX sequence. If they don't contribute to the plot, they have to go. If you don't get that, don't waste time trying to do anything with movies.

Do you know why people got bored with the fights and battles in the prequels? Because they wasted time showing us "pretty stuff to watch" when they should have been advancing the story. Yes, you can have duels and battles. But they should serve their function to the plot and nothing more.

 

Correct, one, single cardinal rule of Hollywood filmmaking. If you're talking about a 3 act narrative structure yes. If you're talking about an episodic structure, no. Ever heard of Italian neorealism? It tends to "waste time" on small everyday events that often don't have anything to do with the narrative, but allow the characters to breathe and reflect their reality, as if they were you and I. Also, when a film has a very deep message, it is usually a good idea to force some long takes to give the audience a chance to reflect on what they just saw.

You're also completely throwing experimental or non-narrative structure out of the window.

 

Sorry, I'll shut up now. I believe you are in the industry and I'm a lowly first year film student so I probably don't know what I'm talking about...but yeah I would say in a Star Wars film you wouldn't want long breaks from the narrative.

This isn't art-house cinema. This isn't Dinner with Andre. This is traditional narrative film making. So Venal and Bingo are correct in pointing out the importance of set-up,conflict, and resolution.

I know it doesn't apply in this situation. Star Wars is very classical 3-act based. I was just saying that I don't like the idea that it's "breaking the cardinal rule of filmmaking" to get away from the plot. I think someone who doesn't know a lot about film like Ghost could get the wrong idea from that statement.

I think someone who doesn't know a lot about film like Ghost could get the wrong idea from that statement.

Look, I already cleared up what I meant to say. If you would read previous pages, you probably would have a better idea of what your talking about. I'm not that stupid to say break away from the plot.  I know alot about the film btw, believe me, that's why I'm here.