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Info & Ideas: ESB and ROTJ Wishlist — Page 191

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Did you notice that in OT we never see a ship locks any proton torpedoes or any missiles to enemy ships? That happens only to PT as well.

If we go with ady's approach cut the torpedoes from PT. OR add torpedoes to OT as well. ROTJ may need more firepower as the end battle.

 

Give the fighters something to brake on DS or though their navigation into it. not having an empty hallway.

 

-Angel

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brash_stryker said:

I'm not sure if I imagined this being mentioned before or not, but there might be some overhead footage of Fangorn forest in The Two Towers that could be used for some extended/redone Endor shots.

Also, if you want to give the Ewoks a more feasible 'edge' in the battle, how about some sentient tree-like creatures start joining in to kick some stormtrooper ass?

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y161/welsh_anarchy/entstomptrooper.png?t=1254876526

If its going to go Lord of The Rings versus Star Wars then you could include Wicket W. Baggins too:

That looks kinda creepy. Hobwork.

Aarrriibaaa!

 

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Bobocop:

While some of these production paintings are cool, some remind me how lucky we are that George Lucas wasn't able to to do everything he wanted back in the days of the OT.

You said it. Have you ever seen the early CG tests they did even for Star Wars? Thankfully they weren't good enough so he left it alone then.

I honestly believe Star Wars was more of a fluke than genius, and Empire was great because of other writers and a better director (and a bigger budget). The other four I can take or leave.

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It really, really is. I can't look at it. Please, no-one else repost it!

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Great, that's me having nightmares for the next couple of nights.

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I still say we need to keep my Rambo baby ewok.

 

"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas

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The obvious and easier (none of this stuff is easy) to do fixes on the Ewoks are the pebble eyes on the masks.

Many of the masks didn't fit well or shifted during the performance leading to the actors eyes clearly being visable behind the more basic masks.

There seemed to have been levels of quality in the mask production with higher quality costume/makeup/masks like Teebo and Wicket and lower quality ones (presumably meant to be in the background and less visable). It's quite common practise do this sort of thing in flims (some of the apes in the Planet Of The Apes films and the zombies in Romero's films were just simple masks but put in the background were the eye would be drawn to more expensive and realistic versions).

In ROTJ however they seem to have been all thrown in together with the higher and lower quality suits rubbing shoulders with each other which spoils the illusion.

I'd imagine that doing some of the manipulations that Ady did to the Cantina patrons would be almost impossible to do on the Ewoks because of the fur.

The eyes, noses and lips are the only places where a bit of animation would be possible.

Sticking some nasty teeth (not quite as nasty as Ganamae's mockups) might be doable in some key areas but really the best way to beef up the Ewoks cred is to build up their culture.

Their voices seem to be a bit uniformly ethnically cute, I wouldn't throw their language out of the window completely because it does sound like a language but perhaps adding a few more harsh sounds in there could create the impression of something less comedic and more warrior like.

Removing the excessively silly noises would help too.

In an ideal world they would all be more like Teebo in terms of uncanny valleyness.

He looks more humanoid but alien enough to be believable and a little scary, the teddy bear look is a problem I'm not sure I can see a way around beyond what has already been suggested.

The bit where he thrusts a spear at Han could be enhanced by editing his first and second attempts together so he makes one decisive jab that Han catches just in the nick of time.

 

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Ganamae said:

cozy

Is this Cindel (as we aint seen it in the last few posts)?

Wicket must be getting thankers cramp in his hand aswell. Kiddy fiddler!

That IS actually Star Wars disturbing though.

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I know it was my own idea but i like the idea of trying to make these Ewoks more like Jungle tribes. Spears, shields and bows are enough and as someone said, i forget who (all credit to them) pit and traps. On there physical appeareanes then i believe some thing more like bones to there costumes etc. Little trickets of dead animals and people perhaps.

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Chewie asked the ewok, "Dooo urr pooooo stick tooo yourrr furrr?"

"Yada", says the ewok.

So Chewie picks up the ewok and wipes his bum with him.

Old one ;-)

I just re-SE-my frodo pic if u care to scroll up. Looks even more wank now ive gone back to it (take note George).

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Bobocop said:

While some of these production paintings are cool, some remind me how lucky we are that George Lucas wasn't able to to do everything he wanted back in the days of the OT.

That painting from McQuarrie wasn't done for the ROTJ film. It was done later for the Illustrated SW Universe book from the early '90's.

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Another video...this time testing out a totally different ending for ROTJ.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUJL7c3-yro

I started this before Adywan had ever mentioned ROTJ:R...actually I got alot of the ideas from the Starkiller Ranch thread...back when it was still alive...*sniff*  ;)
I started this video about two years ago and continued to add and change things as i went along.
Some ideas I first started off with don't seem near as fesible now (new 3PO dialouge)...plus some ideas seem a bit...fan boy-ish.
But there are some ideas I do like...that being the main reason I decided to finally post it now. I want it to be floating around for a while so people can watch and comment on what they like and don't like...maybe this will help Adywan with some ideas...we'll have to wait and see!

Oh! And I'd better comment now that I *don't* want Hayden in this version...I simply don't have a good copy of the GOUT to use. :D

SSWR’s YouTube channel

Attack of the Clones: Alternate Timeline Edit Thread:
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/SSWRs-Attack-of-the-Clones-Alternate-Timeline-Edit/id/66888

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Dude, you are awesome.

 

SSWR, if you really wanted to play with things, have that rebel fleet shot approaching Coruscant and then fade to credits. hehe.

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SomethingStarWarsRelated said:

Another video...this time testing out a totally different ending for ROTJ.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUJL7c3-yro

I started this before Adywan had ever mentioned ROTJ:R...actually I got alot of the ideas from the Starkiller Ranch thread...back when it was still alive...*sniff*  ;)
I started this video about two years ago and continued to add and change things as i went along.
Some ideas I first started off with don't seem near as fesible now (new 3PO dialouge)...plus some ideas seem a bit...fan boy-ish.
But there are some ideas I do like...that being the main reason I decided to finally post it now. I want it to be floating around for a while so people can watch and comment on what they like and don't like...maybe this will help Adywan with some ideas...we'll have to wait and see!

Oh! And I'd better comment now that I *don't* want Hayden in this version...I simply don't have a good copy of the GOUT to use. :D

 Really loved the video, apart from few minor things like reused clips but apart from that I loved Han being concerned for Luke, shows he has grown as a character. I think what Ackbar said about the rebels have won needs somekind of different dialogue, like the emporer has been defeated, not the empire. Wouldnt mention that the rebels had won because we had just seen that and Ric Olie has an excuse to be in ROTJ wouldnt ya Ric?

5 out of 5 Stars sswr!

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Hey Ric didnt notice you released your own range of products lol.

(Pic by me! :D)

Imagine the slogan, ''Keeps my eyes lookin fresh and young so i can carry on pointing out the obvious with youth!''

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DuTwan said:

I know it was my own idea but i like the idea of trying to make these Ewoks more like Jungle tribes. Spears, shields and bows are enough and as someone said, i forget who (all credit to them) pit and traps. On there physical appeareanes then i believe some thing more like bones to there costumes etc. Little trickets of dead animals and people perhaps.

 Large shields and long throwing spears really wouldn't be terribly appropriate to a people who live in a dense jungle.

Just using parralels in Earth cultures, short bows would be useful where speed is more important than distance but not long bows, which would be cumbersome and rarely would you have room to arch a shot for great distance.

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SomethingStarWarsRelated said:

Another video...this time testing out a totally different ending for ROTJ.

Where'd you get the C-3PO dialogue, about "completing his mission" and "giving R2 the credit"?
(that's something I might want to use in my RotJ fanedit as well)

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DuTwan said:

Hey Ric didnt notice you released your own range of products lol.

(Pic by me! :D)

Imagine the slogan, ''Keeps my eyes lookin fresh and young so i can carry on pointing out the obvious with youth!''

What?  This is an outrage?  Did you get approval to use my image?  Or my name?  I'm gonna take you to the cleaners.

 

Nah, I'm just kiddin' ya.  Any publicity is good publicity, and that picture just reinforces what a Handsome Devil from Naboo I am.  Just make sure to send me some free samples.