The reason the scout has a s"shimmering" look is because he's in motion. That's an artifact of real film.
shanerjedi said:The reason the scout has a s"shimmering" look is because he's in motion. That's an artifact of real film.
OK, my mistake.
"Star Wars is supposed to be happy-go-lucky-let's-go-blow-up-a-Star-Destroyer [not like the New Jedi Order]"- Brendon C.
"Canon... includes the screenplays, the films, the radio dramas and the novelisations." -Star Wars Insider issue 23
Ruja said:1st: Make the Death Star leave debris in orbit after the big explosion, even with two or three bigger sections intact, something like what happens to the Moon in The Time Machine:
How i forgot this!
I agree! i dont know if that fits to ewoks but certainly fits to wookies/kashyyk.
the death star debris was was an abandoned mockup i was making considering after the poor explosion i added small meteorites burning into the atmosphere (see Deep impact)
I see what i can do ;)
-Angel
Maybe another way around Leia's images of her mother is by giving her a holographic locket, she could give it to Luke on Endor and it might even fall to the ground when Palpatine is zapping Luke (like I suggested with Padme's neckless earlier) :
Darth Venal said:Well what continuity issues with regards to the PT are you referring to in Jedi?
The most notable one is probably Leia remembering her birth mother. I’ve seen it suggested by some apologists that Leia didn’t know she was adopted, so she misunderstood the question and responded with an irrelevant description of Bail Organa’s wife, who happened to have some traits in common with Leia’s birth mother. This explanation moves it from the category of “continuity error” to “pointless waste of time,” and I don’t think that’s an improvement. In my mind this remains a continuity error. I haven’t given much thought to how it could best be corrected.
Another continuity error in my opinion is when Ben says that Luke was hidden from Vader. This may have raised an eyebrow in ’83. (If they’re trying to hide him, why keep the same last name?) But when the PT came out, we learned that Uncle Owen was Anakin’s stepbrother, and apparently living in the same place that Anakin knew. With that information, the idea that Luke was placed there to hide him from Vader becomes particularly hard to believe. (My own ideas of how to handle the hows and wherefores of Luke’s upbringing are here. I haven’t given much thought to how ROTJ can be altered to be consistent with those ideas, and don’t know whether the wider world of SW fandom would even like those ideas.)
ROTJ has much bigger problems than these continuity errors, but I still thought them worth mentioning.
Time is running out for the Rebels. Antilles upcourt to Skywalker. He’s being paced by Darth Va— the bone-jarring pick by Solo! He came out of nowhere! Skywalker’s open from way outside, he launches at the buzzer... Good! It’s good! The Rebels win on a sensational buzzer beater by Luke Skywalker! Let’s take another look at that last shot. He just does get it off in time. Wow, what a shot. That’s why they call him Luke Legend.
That may be the most exciting battle I have ever been privileged to broadcast. Certainly the most dramatic finish. We’ll get you an update on the Artoo Detoo injury situation in just a moment. Right now let’s go courtside where SuperShadow is waiting with Chewbacca.
ROTJ has much bigger problems than these continuity errors
Evidences!
It seems that the rebels not only upgrade the Xwings to each movie but it seems to make them bigger lol.
Also note how much detail is lost in wedge's face with all that orange.
-Angel
Bingowings said:AngelBlue, I don't care what is written in books like that, it just doesn't make sense for all the reasons that have been discussed before.
In some sense every point on the station some way or another leads the reactor core but Palpatine doesn't and can not die there unless he had some kind of super fast rocket pack and a powerful heat shield hidden under that cape of his, which he decided to activate when he realised he was already doomed to explode near the bottom of the tower (that said it is only marginally more silly than having the death pit there in the first place).
I'm working on a new mockup as we speak to try and correct some of the problems with the old matte but keep the basic idea of a chasm by the side of the lift shaft (but I'd still like to see something a bit more knockout instead).
Of COURSE its the DS reactor but we're also dealing with STAR WARS physics here. Yes, it would take half a day for Palpy to fall the actual distance, but that would not work with the scene, so of course it only takes him a few seconds to hit the reactor and blow up. Darth and Luke couldn't exactly just sit there waiting for Palps to blow up...
Regardless, I say leave it up to the viewer (and the fan editor) to decide whether it truly is THE reactor or A reactor or simply the food court Pappy Palpatine is crashing into. Man, imagine that under the hot lamps next to the Sbarro's.. ugh!
“You people must realize that the public owns you for life, and when you’re dead, you’ll all be in commercials dancing with vacuum cleaners.”
– Homer Simpson
There is no way you can stretch suspension of belief that far, not even for Star Wars.
If it takes a certain amount of time for a heat shielded engine propelled lump of metal to get into the centre of the station, an unshielded, unpropelled (other than gravity) lump of meat has to take at least as long, at least (that's stretching belief to fantastic degrees as it is, any further and you lose the audience in a Midi-chlorian sense).
Even the most fantastical tale has to follow it's own internal logic.
Sure you don't have to have someone pop up and explain that on screen but when repairing things like matte paintings that are utter nonsense you have to bear it in mind.
Very quickie.
I like the idea that DS still emits light from the remaining inner radiation and several little debris flying around.
-Angel
When I first saw a picture of the second Death Star I thought it was the wreck of the first (I'd somehow completely forgot it had been blown to glitter in the first film).
The problem with this idea is it doesn't look sufficiently broken enough to be described as destroyed.
It is (it would take a lot more than a few dollops of Superglue to repair it) but it doesn't look smashed enough.
Bingowings said:When I first saw a picture of the second Death Star I thought it was the wreck of the first (I'd somehow completely forgot it had been blown to glitter in the first film).
It is (it would take a lot more than a few dollops of Superglue to repair it) but it doesn't look smashed enough.
I had the same reaction ;)
Ok i will smash it more later :)
-Angel
Cap:
Another continuity error in my opinion is when Ben says that Luke was hidden from Vader. This may have raised an eyebrow in ’83. (If they’re trying to hide him, why keep the same last name?) But when the PT came out, we learned that Uncle Owen was Anakin’s stepbrother, and apparently living in the same place that Anakin knew. With that information, the idea that Luke was placed there to hide him from Vader becomes particularly hard to believe.
Well, aren't you missing the fact that Vader didn't even know he had a son, and so wouldn't be looking for him? And why would Vader care what his "step-brother" was doing? He only met him once several years before and probably never cared to return to Tatooine again after the death of Shmi.
Bingowings:Even the most fantastical tale has to follow it's own internal logic.
Man, how I wish everyone understood that.
That's the canon explanation: they put Luke on Tatooine because it was the one place Vader would never willingly go; it would remind him of Anakin. As for Leia, I got nothing.
Well, I'm pleased it's canon, as it's the one that makes most sense to me, too.
As for Leia, why does there need to be an explanation? No-one else knew she existed, so no-one would be looking for her. As for her recollection of her mother, Leia was more than adequately vague in Jedi about what she remembers. She does actually say she doesn't really have memories, more "feelings". And that, for me, is perfectly fine. After all, it's obvious Bail Organa and her adopted mother didn't tell Leia the truth about her real parents, otherwise she'd already know. Therefore, they probably told her a sweet story about her mother dying when she was very young and they raised her as their own.
It's really not that difficult, and as much as I don't like the prequels, I don't believe there is any continuity error with Leia's "remembrance" of her mother.
Darth Venal said:As for Leia, why does there need to be an explanation? No-one else knew she existed, so no-one would be looking for her. As for her recollection of her mother, Leia was more than adequately vague in Jedi about what she remembers. She does actually say she doesn't really have memories, more "feelings". And that, for me, is perfectly fine. After all, it's obvious Bail Organa and her adopted mother didn't tell Leia the truth about her real parents, otherwise she'd already know. Therefore, they probably told her a sweet story about her mother dying when she was very young and they raised her as their own.
It's really not that difficult, and as much as I don't like the prequels, I don't believe there is any continuity error with Leia's "remembrance" of her mother.
That I do not buy.
Leia clearly states that her mother died when she was very young and remembers images as well as feelings.
Newborn babies don't remember those sort of details they don't have the necessary internal mechansism and if anyone starts splurting nonsense about her latent Force abilities or her talking about her step mother I shall get Paddington Bear on them and give them a hard stare through this screen.
It was yet another fluck up on Lucas' part, pure and simple.
Neither ROTJ or ROTS are perfect films, they both have the faults and their undeniable charms but at the end of the day I have more of an investment in Carrie Fisher's performance than Nat Portman's (she took some very stupid lines and made them sparkle through force of personality even in Jedi) so I would rather try and fix this in the PT than in the OT but it does need fixing.
She said she remembers images, not events. Are you saying you can discern all your early feelings/images/memories and tell me exactly which are your own and which have come from what you have learned about when you were young?
I don't think it's a big deal either way, and it doesn't smack me as any great error.
oh_riginal said:No love for my shrunken Death Star laser operators??
I also suggested more turret action from the Falcon, but that might be covered somewhat already in some of those suggestions.
What's the link for the video you did? And not only is the turret suggestion on there, I liked it so much and I couldn't phrase it right so I just copied and pasted what you wrote and credited it to you! ;-)
Angel Blue01, I'll be adding some of your points to the list as well. Thanks for the pictures, they really help.
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Darth Venal said:She said she remembers images, not events. Are you saying you can discern all your early feelings/images/memories and tell me exactly which are your own and which have come from what you have learned about when you were young?
I don't think it's a big deal either way, and it doesn't smack me as any great error.
I can clearly remember at the age of two my mother getting the letter saying I would be going to nursery school and that memory is a combination of images and feelings of myself being there, not someone telling me what happened.
I can't remember the doctors having to turn me because I tried to come out shoulder first or that my first noise was laughter (those are things I have been told happened but I can't actually remember happening).
It's a great error and it needs fixing (well at least from my point of view) but I'd fix it in the PT not in the OT if possible.
Okay, let's agree to disagree. I also have three very distinct memories from being just under two years old, and I can remember where they were and who was in them, but I still don't have a problem with the Leia dialogue because I'm not taking it too literally.
Leia never recalls a single actual memory of her mother, so to me that is perfectly fine. Anyway, moving on...
I had that same locket idea some time ago Bingo :)
But I'd still prefer it to be adequately explained by Padme surviving for a few years on Alderaan.
The problem then is how to kill her off.
Assassination, illness, depression, booze does it really matter?
If it's done in a quick time progression sweep at the end of ROTS do we need to know?
People die young for all manner of reasons.
Yeah, because that was what I was asking. I think I can formulate a few ways that she could die, but thanks.
I meant within an edit.
Time lapse montage, as Bingo just said. We see that she dies in the subsequent years. How isn't important.
That ways isnt star wars-y. I suggest the minimum efford to do these scenes removing or altering lines. ;)
-Angel
