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Info, Help Wanted: William Friedkin's Sorcerer (1977) - original theatrical stereo track preservation

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I’m sure a lot of you remember the recent preservation of the international edit of this movie called Wages of Fear which was drastically different from the version in the US which is what Friedkin prefers. However, this time we will concentrate on this cut rather than the “Wages of Fear” cut. Whenever the movie got a blu-ray release in 2014, it saw an entirely new audio mix created where despite it originally being in stereo, a lot of the sound effects were changed (namely gunshots and explosions) and there is no option for the original mix.

The original US DVD was in stereo but I heard a rumor that it was potentially a TV soundtrack meaning the swearing was taken out, so I was hoping someone would potentially have a rip of the laserdisc or VHS to see if it’s uncut language wise or not. If not one could possibly reconstruct the original mix by restoring the swearing in moments when needed. If anyone has any sources please let me know, I think the original mix really needs preserving of this 70s classic.

Raccoons

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SpacemanDoug said:

I’m sure a lot of you remember the recent preservation of the international edit of this movie called Wages of Fear which was drastically different from the version in the US which is what Friedkin prefers. However, this time we will concentrate on this cut rather than the “Wages of Fear” cut. Whenever the movie got a blu-ray release in 2014, it saw an entirely new audio mix created where despite it originally being in stereo, a lot of the sound effects were changed (namely gunshots and explosions) and there is no option for the original mix.

The original US DVD was in stereo but I heard a rumor that it was potentially a TV soundtrack meaning the swearing was taken out, so I was hoping someone would potentially have a rip of the laserdisc or VHS to see if it’s uncut language wise or not. If not one could possibly reconstruct the original mix by restoring the swearing in moments when needed. If anyone has any sources please let me know, I think the original mix really needs preserving of this 70s classic.

The US DVD Is Literally A TV Print

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PsyKovic said:

SpacemanDoug said:

I’m sure a lot of you remember the recent preservation of the international edit of this movie called Wages of Fear which was drastically different from the version in the US which is what Friedkin prefers. However, this time we will concentrate on this cut rather than the “Wages of Fear” cut. Whenever the movie got a blu-ray release in 2014, it saw an entirely new audio mix created where despite it originally being in stereo, a lot of the sound effects were changed (namely gunshots and explosions) and there is no option for the original mix.

The original US DVD was in stereo but I heard a rumor that it was potentially a TV soundtrack meaning the swearing was taken out, so I was hoping someone would potentially have a rip of the laserdisc or VHS to see if it’s uncut language wise or not. If not one could possibly reconstruct the original mix by restoring the swearing in moments when needed. If anyone has any sources please let me know, I think the original mix really needs preserving of this 70s classic.

The US DVD Is Literally A TV Print

yea that doesn’t surprise me, what about the laserdisc and VHS?

Raccoons

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SpacemanDoug said:

PsyKovic said:

SpacemanDoug said:

I’m sure a lot of you remember the recent preservation of the international edit of this movie called Wages of Fear which was drastically different from the version in the US which is what Friedkin prefers. However, this time we will concentrate on this cut rather than the “Wages of Fear” cut. Whenever the movie got a blu-ray release in 2014, it saw an entirely new audio mix created where despite it originally being in stereo, a lot of the sound effects were changed (namely gunshots and explosions) and there is no option for the original mix.

The original US DVD was in stereo but I heard a rumor that it was potentially a TV soundtrack meaning the swearing was taken out, so I was hoping someone would potentially have a rip of the laserdisc or VHS to see if it’s uncut language wise or not. If not one could possibly reconstruct the original mix by restoring the swearing in moments when needed. If anyone has any sources please let me know, I think the original mix really needs preserving of this 70s classic.

The US DVD Is Literally A TV Print

yea that doesn’t surprise me, what about the laserdisc and VHS?

Acording to LD https://forum.lddb.com/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=1965&hilit=sorcerer it has both analog and digital surround

VHS https://www.amazon.com/-/es/Roy-Scheider/dp/6301790170 It Has the Stereo Sound

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What I wanna know is if they’re the same TV soundtrack as the DVD

Raccoons

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There appears to only have been a single Laserdisc release. I see some conflicting Info on LDDB about it being letterboxed or pan and scan. But no info about whether or not it is the original mix.

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The laserdisc and DVD share literally the exact same master. I don’t know where these censorship allegations came from.

So, a new book came out and we learned so much, and it is called, "Anguilosaurus, Killer of the Living".

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Space Hunter M said:

The laserdisc and DVD share literally the exact same master. I don’t know where these censorship allegations came from.

I heard it somewhere on blu-ray forum

Considering I don’t have that DVD I can’t confirm myself whether or not it’s censored

Raccoons

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PsyKovic said:

Space Hunter M said:

The laserdisc and DVD share literally the exact same master. I don’t know where these censorship allegations came from.

https://twitter.com/williamfriedkin/status/495446944496377856?lang=es The director disapprove the tv cut

Friedkin is saying it’s a master made for TV and home video exhibition i.e. 4:3 with video generated location titles during the vignettes. There is no censorship and the audio is the theatrical mix.

Here is audiovisual proof.
https://streamable.com/57p63w

There is no need for a wild goose chase for the LD version.

So, a new book came out and we learned so much, and it is called, "Anguilosaurus, Killer of the Living".

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Space Hunter M said:

PsyKovic said:

Space Hunter M said:

The laserdisc and DVD share literally the exact same master. I don’t know where these censorship allegations came from.

https://twitter.com/williamfriedkin/status/495446944496377856?lang=es The director disapprove the tv cut

Friedkin is saying it’s a master made for TV and home video exhibition i.e. 4:3 with video generated location titles during the vignettes. There is no censorship and the audio is the theatrical mix.

Here is audiovisual proof.
https://streamable.com/57p63w

There is no need for a wild goose chase for the LD version.

Seriously I didn’t realize the DVD wasn’t censored, I just heard somewhere on blu-ray forums it was so was skeptical

Thanks for proving it though

Raccoons