jedimasterobiwan said:
the dcp version is what i'm talking about not the blu ray to make it look like the blu ray but without any of the dnr and have it color corrected.
The dirt and scratches on the BD were badly removed, look:
The only positive thing about the BD is the corrected skateboard wheels issue.
“English, motherf***er! Do you speak it!?”
ilovewaterslides said:
The only positive thing about the BD is the corrected skateboard wheels issue.
Can we be certain the BD is a correction? Surely whatever colour the wheels are on the original print in that scene is the 'correct' colour, even if it is technically an error of some sort.
George creates Star Wars.
Star Wars creates fans.
George destroys Star Wars.
Fans destroy George.
Fans create Star Wars.
It would be possible to write a script that automatically corrects the scratches and spots that are present on the DCP and not present on the Blu-ray. But this is for die-hards only, as it needs image registration.
Also, the errors on the Blu-ray are partially reversible. But what for...
The wheels were yellow, there's absolutely no doubt about this.
“English, motherf***er! Do you speak it!?”
As I said, it has to be a Shining-style gaffe where a particular HSL range was seemingly adjusted to different values, and it altered everything in the frame with those colors.
I still can't fathom why this would happen - could it possibly have been an attempt to hide some kind of emulsion damage that just happened to be on top of something pink/red? I am noticing that in the example from The Shining, it's green stuff getting changed to pink, and in BTTF it's yellow getting changed to pink. (Again, look how the yellow road stripes in the background also got changed to pink.) Whenever I see emulsion damage on a print, it always seems to be green or yellow - maybe that's it?
ilovewaterslides said:
jedimasterobiwan said:
the dcp version is what i'm talking about not the blu ray to make it look like the blu ray but without any of the dnr and have it color corrected.
The dirt and scratches on the BD were badly removed, look:
http://www.caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleiche/multi_comparison.php?art=part&x=843&y=94&action=1&image=4&hd_multiID=958&cap1=37257&cap2=37253&disc1=4005&disc2=874&lossless=#vergleich
The only positive thing about the BD is the corrected skateboard wheels issue.
then how about someone does an edit of the dcp that's better than the blu ray? color correction and the dirt and scratches.
No print damage here. Just auto color-correction went wrong and noone noticed it in time.
jedimasterobiwan said: then how about someone does an edit of the dcp that's better than the blu ray? color correction and the dirt and scratches.
I believe everybody understood what you wanted.
jedimasterobiwan said:
ilovewaterslides said:
jedimasterobiwan said:
the dcp version is what i'm talking about not the blu ray to make it look like the blu ray but without any of the dnr and have it color corrected.
The dirt and scratches on the BD were badly removed, look:
http://www.caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleiche/multi_comparison.php?art=part&x=843&y=94&action=1&image=4&hd_multiID=958&cap1=37257&cap2=37253&disc1=4005&disc2=874&lossless=#vergleich
The only positive thing about the BD is the corrected skateboard wheels issue.
then how about someone does an edit of the dcp that's better than the blu ray? color correction and the dirt and scratches.
If you had some experience doing these sorts of projects you would know that removing all the dirt and scratches from a film is very time/labour intensive. The way that you ask others to do all that work for you in such a blase manner like it was the easiest thing in the world is what rubs people the wrong way and causes people like Andrea to ignore you.
I never want to ignore anybody because I feel like its a very cruel and abusive thing to do but you don't make it easy with some of your posts. I suggest that you take Andrea's advice from the fanres thread and do some research of your own, bring information to the table like screencap comparisons showing what you think that film should look like, make a case for why its a worthwhile project THEN make a request for just that ONE film, you are far more likely to have your request taken up.
Getting back to Back to the Future, I'm planning to regrade the DCP to match the colours of the DVD release. From what I have seen of the DCP, there is no need for dirt or scratch removal IMHO, the transfer is clean and the grain is very nice.
What I would like to know is what everybody here thinks about the skateboard wheels changing colour in those few shots. Is that a deal breaker for some of you or do you not really care? It'd be a little more work but I could probably change the colour of the wheels back in those few shots without too much difficulty. Should I do that or leave it as is?
kk650 said:
Getting back to Back to the Future, I'm planning to regrade the DCP to match the colours of the DVD release. From what I have seen of the DCP, there is no need for dirt or scratch removal IMHO, the transfer is clean and the grain is very nice.
What I would like to know is what everybody here thinks about the skateboard wheels changing colour in those few shots. Is that a deal breaker for some of you or do you not really care? It'd be a little more work but I could probably change the colour of the wheels back in those few shots without too much difficulty. Should I do that or leave it as is?
I'd say it definitely distracts you from the movie if you know about it. Although its not a "deal breaker".
kk650 said:
jedimasterobiwan said:
ilovewaterslides said:
jedimasterobiwan said:
the dcp version is what i'm talking about not the blu ray to make it look like the blu ray but without any of the dnr and have it color corrected.
The dirt and scratches on the BD were badly removed, look:
http://www.caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleiche/multi_comparison.php?art=part&x=843&y=94&action=1&image=4&hd_multiID=958&cap1=37257&cap2=37253&disc1=4005&disc2=874&lossless=#vergleich
The only positive thing about the BD is the corrected skateboard wheels issue.
then how about someone does an edit of the dcp that's better than the blu ray? color correction and the dirt and scratches.
If you had some experience doing these sorts of projects you would know that removing all the dirt and scratches from a film is very time/labour intensive. The way that you ask others to do all that work for you in such a blase manner like it was the easiest thing in the world is what rubs people the wrong way and causes people like Andrea to ignore you.
I never want to ignore anybody because I feel like its a very cruel and abusive thing to do but you don't make it easy with some of your posts. I suggest that you take Andrea's advice from the fanres thread and do some research of your own, bring information to the table like screencap comparisons showing what you think that film should look like, make a case for why its a worthwhile project THEN make a request for just that ONE film, you are far more likely to have your request taken up.
i'm not trying to demand anyone to do it i was just asking if no one wants to do it i understand
kk650 said:
Getting back to Back to the Future, I'm planning to regrade the DCP to match the colours of the DVD release. From what I have seen of the DCP, there is no need for dirt or scratch removal IMHO, the transfer is clean and the grain is very nice.
What I would like to know is what everybody here thinks about the skateboard wheels changing colour in those few shots. Is that a deal breaker for some of you or do you not really care? It'd be a little more work but I could probably change the colour of the wheels back in those few shots without too much difficulty. Should I do that or leave it as is?
are going to fix things like skin tones etc.
kk650 said:
Getting back to Back to the Future, I'm planning to regrade the DCP to match the colours of the DVD release. From what I have seen of the DCP, there is no need for dirt or scratch removal IMHO, the transfer is clean and the grain is very nice.
What I would like to know is what everybody here thinks about the skateboard wheels changing colour in those few shots. Is that a deal breaker for some of you or do you not really care? It'd be a little more work but I could probably change the colour of the wheels back in those few shots without too much difficulty. Should I do that or leave it as is?
Well, I must say I never noticed the skateboard wheels until today in this thread, curse you all. :)
But now I'll always see it. A fix would be neat but it's up to you!
jedimasterobiwan said:
kk650 said:
jedimasterobiwan said:
ilovewaterslides said:
jedimasterobiwan said:
the dcp version is what i'm talking about not the blu ray to make it look like the blu ray but without any of the dnr and have it color corrected.
The dirt and scratches on the BD were badly removed, look:
http://www.caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleiche/multi_comparison.php?art=part&x=843&y=94&action=1&image=4&hd_multiID=958&cap1=37257&cap2=37253&disc1=4005&disc2=874&lossless=#vergleich
The only positive thing about the BD is the corrected skateboard wheels issue.
then how about someone does an edit of the dcp that's better than the blu ray? color correction and the dirt and scratches.
If you had some experience doing these sorts of projects you would know that removing all the dirt and scratches from a film is very time/labour intensive. The way that you ask others to do all that work for you in such a blase manner like it was the easiest thing in the world is what rubs people the wrong way and causes people like Andrea to ignore you.
I never want to ignore anybody because I feel like its a very cruel and abusive thing to do but you don't make it easy with some of your posts. I suggest that you take Andrea's advice from the fanres thread and do some research of your own, bring information to the table like screencap comparisons showing what you think that film should look like, make a case for why its a worthwhile project THEN make a request for just that ONE film, you are far more likely to have your request taken up.
i'm not trying to demand anyone to do it i was just asking if no one wants to do it i understand
I'm not trying to be mean to you and I apologise if I came off that way, I just want to be honest with you about how you come across in some of your posts. I appreciate that you might not realise how some of your posts come across and I don't believe you are intending to offend or be disrespectful.
In future though, when you want to make a request, take heed of Andrea's helpful advice and do some of the research and legwork yourself, make your request with something concrete in mind, like emulating the colours of another home release with screencaps you can provide or removing a blanket tint, rather than just saying that you want a film regraded and providing no details of HOW you want it regraded, you will find your request is far more warmly received.
jedimasterobiwan said:
kk650 said:
Getting back to Back to the Future, I'm planning to regrade the DCP to match the colours of the DVD release. From what I have seen of the DCP, there is no need for dirt or scratch removal IMHO, the transfer is clean and the grain is very nice.
What I would like to know is what everybody here thinks about the skateboard wheels changing colour in those few shots. Is that a deal breaker for some of you or do you not really care? It'd be a little more work but I could probably change the colour of the wheels back in those few shots without too much difficulty. Should I do that or leave it as is?
are going to fix things like skin tones etc.
Yes, that is one of my main priorities.
towne32 said:
kk650 said:
Getting back to Back to the Future, I'm planning to regrade the DCP to match the colours of the DVD release. From what I have seen of the DCP, there is no need for dirt or scratch removal IMHO, the transfer is clean and the grain is very nice.
What I would like to know is what everybody here thinks about the skateboard wheels changing colour in those few shots. Is that a deal breaker for some of you or do you not really care? It'd be a little more work but I could probably change the colour of the wheels back in those few shots without too much difficulty. Should I do that or leave it as is?
Well, I must say I never noticed the skateboard wheels until today in this thread, curse you all. :)
But now I'll always see it. A fix would be neat but it's up to you!
Sorry about that! To be honest I hadn't noticed before reading this thread either. I'll take that as a yes for changing the wheel colours in those shots.
kk650 said:
jedimasterobiwan said:
kk650 said:
Getting back to Back to the Future, I'm planning to regrade the DCP to match the colours of the DVD release. From what I have seen of the DCP, there is no need for dirt or scratch removal IMHO, the transfer is clean and the grain is very nice.
What I would like to know is what everybody here thinks about the skateboard wheels changing colour in those few shots. Is that a deal breaker for some of you or do you not really care? It'd be a little more work but I could probably change the colour of the wheels back in those few shots without too much difficulty. Should I do that or leave it as is?
are going to fix things like skin tones etc.
Yes, that is one of my main priorities.
when will it be up? also is there any bttf 2 and 3 dcp if not will you be able to do a fix on them someday?
kk650 said:
Sorry about that! To be honest I hadn't noticed before reading this thread either. I'll take that as a yes for changing the wheel colours in those shots.
I hadn't notice it either. But, if someone wants to be pedantic, it's not just the wheels. It affects the whole picture.
jedimasterobiwan said:
when will it be up? also is there any bttf 2 and 3 dcp if not will you be able to do a fix on them someday?
I'd probably say the 8gb release of BTTF should be up in around 2 weeks on tehparadox. Depending on whether its popular or not, a larger release will come out soon after.
I don't know if there are high quality DCP versions of BTTF2 and BTTF3 to be honest. Its not something i've looked into because I don't have any plans to take BTTF2 and BTTF3 up as projects at this time but perhaps at some point in the future.
zee944 said:
kk650 said:
Sorry about that! To be honest I hadn't noticed before reading this thread either. I'll take that as a yes for changing the wheel colours in those shots.
I hadn't notice it either. But, if someone wants to be pedantic, it's not just the wheels. It affects the whole picture.
I imagine that if I selectively change the colours of the wheels in those shots, it'll quite likely fix other parts of the frame that have had a similar shift in colour. I'll experiment and see what can be done.
kk650 said:
zee944 said:
kk650 said:
Sorry about that! To be honest I hadn't noticed before reading this thread either. I'll take that as a yes for changing the wheel colours in those shots.
I hadn't notice it either. But, if someone wants to be pedantic, it's not just the wheels. It affects the whole picture.
I imagine that if I selectively change the colours of the wheels in those shots, it'll quite likely fix other parts of the frame that have had a similar shift in colour. I'll experiment and see what can be done.
so your edit is going to be a complete color correction then?
jedimasterobiwan said:
kk650 said:
zee944 said:
kk650 said:
Sorry about that! To be honest I hadn't noticed before reading this thread either. I'll take that as a yes for changing the wheel colours in those shots.
I hadn't notice it either. But, if someone wants to be pedantic, it's not just the wheels. It affects the whole picture.
I imagine that if I selectively change the colours of the wheels in those shots, it'll quite likely fix other parts of the frame that have had a similar shift in colour. I'll experiment and see what can be done.
so your edit is going to be a complete color correction then?
Yes, with hopefully selective colour grading for the skateboard wheels in those few shots to make them colour consistant with the rest of the shots.
Apparently, there is no DCP rip of BTTF 2 & 3 out there. There is a good HDTV version that can be found for Part II. It's the Canal+ version with its logo removed.
“English, motherf***er! Do you speak it!?”
I've seen II and III in DCP in theaters, but they were just the BD masters, as was the first. (The BTTF III preview at the end of II had the "Coming Summer 1990" that was seen in theaters in 1989, removed on every pre-2010 video master, then restored on the BD.)
Actually, I'd bet that II and III weren't ever distributed as DCPs until the BD masters.
ilovewaterslides said:
Apparently, there is no DCP rip of BTTF 2 & 3 out there. There is a good HDTV version that can be found for Part II. It's the Canal+ version with its logo removed.
so only part 2 has a good version there's none for part 3. does anyone one have comparison shots of this good version of 2 and two is it available to download? please answer all my questions