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Info: APOLLO 13 HD DVD to Blu-ray disc - Atomik Monkey BD25 (* unfinished project *)

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So I’m rebuying a XBOX 360 HD DVD add-on player along with this film (including many other HD DVDs). Why? Well the Blu-ray disc has DNR applied to it unnecessarily but the HD DVD keeps the film grain. What I’m also going to do is rip bit-for-bit the DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 and also English subtitles from the Blu-ray for this film grain retained project.

First post and will be updated often. Especially when I get the add-on player. I’ll also do one for U-571 and American Me.

EDIT: DragonHeart would be easiest since I still have the HD DVD.

BTW, I have AnyDVD HD and tons of other software. Just not the disc nor add-on player.

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Now you need the DTS Cinema audio for this movie.

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DoomBot said:

Now you need the DTS Cinema audio for this movie.

Main track with DTS-HD MA 5.1 as secondary? I'm not going to have any dubs but I guess lots of subtitles. Thankfully I have the HDD space for both.

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Yeah, you could have both i'm guessing they would still fit on a BD25 since your using the HDDVD video.

I still need to get the DTS cinema from Jetrell Fo and edit & sync it.

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You have stolen my project... (^^,)

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Keep both audio tracks ad the BD audio was taken from the imax track 

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_,,,^..^,,,_ said:

You have stolen my project... (^^,)

Not for another few months! DragonHeart with film grain would be easier since I have the HD DVD for it.

dvdmike said:

Keep both audio tracks ad the BD audio was taken from the imax track 

I figure main audio will be from the DTS Cinema discs, (I have to add you to my friends to receive PM) and secondary will be ripped from the USA Blu-ray disc. Which is the DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1

Would anyone happen to have the PCM 5.1 track from the LD for Interview with the Vampire? I dunno if the full bitrate DTS track from the DVD will suffice. Cause Uncompressed > Lossy.

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I have yet to be approached about getting the cinema DTS for this and I don't want to offer it just for personal or pet projects.  I want it to be shared for a project that everyone will benefit from.

A pm to me is only a click away.

:)

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Jetrell Fo said:

I have yet to be approached about getting the cinema DTS for this and I don't want to offer it just for personal or pet projects.  I want it to be shared for a project that everyone will benefit from.

A pm to me is only a click away.

:)

 PM sent!

EDIT: I don't want to ask for any necessary files until I'm actually working on a project but if I could get everything squared away ahead of time, even better.

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I have Apollo 13 on HD-DVD, and on AC3 and DTS laserdiscs too; but I have not found (yet) a free software to rip the HD-DVD to hard disk...

Also, I'm thinking about, as someone suggested - bigrob, IIRC - to make a variable aspect ratio version using IMAX footage...

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_,,,^..^,,,_ said:

I have Apollo 13 on HD-DVD, and on AC3 and DTS laserdiscs too; but I have not found (yet) a free software to rip the HD-DVD to hard disk...

Also, I'm thinking about, as someone suggested - bigrob, IIRC - to make a variable aspect ratio version using IMAX footage...

That sounds damn great. I was just gonna rip the HD DVD video with AnyDVD HD and mess around with synching the audio from there. But I don't even have the HD DVD or the add-on, as I mentioned. More of a keep the film grain deal easy thing. Another multi-disc compilation too.

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regarding the IMAX version of Apollo 13, this is what i would like to see anyway but any project is appreciated :)

Disc one - HD-DVD video transfer (original 2.35:1 OAR) with Cinema / Laserdisc / Blu-ray DTS

Disc two - (cropped) IMAX version reconstructed from the HDTV 720p open matte rip (it was never filmed with IMAX cameras, just Super 35MM IIRC and was 'upscaled' so to speak for IMAX showings) perhaps have both IMAX and Theatrical cuts via seamless branching? not sure what audio mix was used though. was the DTS on the IMAX disc done specifcally for that version?

I'll try and screengrab my IMAX DVD version tonight and re-download the HDTV version from rutracker

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Ugh, seeing a thread like this makes me wish that my upload speed was usable; I have the HD DVD and I've even already ripped it (losslessly). I wish I could help out but they're not recabling my street until October and I currently even struggle to upload files that are more than about 200 MB :(

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I did something like this, since I had both the BD and HD DVD. A -431ms delay is what you need to add to sync the DTS-HD MA to the VC-1 stream. I hope this helps.

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_,,,^..^,,,_ said:

I have Apollo 13 on HD-DVD, and on AC3 and DTS laserdiscs too; but I have not found (yet) a free software to rip the HD-DVD to hard disk...

 There's the free Lite version of DVDFab Passkey, which works with all HD DVDs I believe.  There's also an old Java program called Dump HD: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=123111

I already muxed in the DTS-MA from the BD with the VC1 from the HD DVD for Apollo 13 a couple years ago, it worked pretty well.  You need to apply a -431ms delay to the DTS-MA according to this thread on AVS: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1243394/apollo-13-comparison-pix/300#post_19996540

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If you happen to have (or obtain) an older copy of AnyDVD, it will do a nice job of ripping the HD-DVD file structure.

I'd also recommend using ClownBD to extract (and, if you like, remux) the streams - it's a fairly painless route to HD-DVD > BD conversion.

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Jonno said:

If you happen to have (or obtain) an older copy of AnyDVD, it will do a nice job of ripping the HD-DVD file structure.

I'd also recommend using ClownBD to extract (and, if you like, remux) the streams - it's a fairly painless route to HD-DVD > BD conversion.

 Would you put together a quick tutorial for home use please?

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I second that!

Please make a new thread under the technical forum; it will be useful for everyone.

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 You can extract the VC-1 video stream from the HD-DVD with eac3to which will remove the pulldown flags and give you a 1080p24 stream

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Elegant Tobacco said:

I did something like this, since I had both the BD and HD DVD. A -431ms delay is what you need to add to sync the DTS-HD MA to the VC-1 stream. I hope this helps.

 Thanks! I'll use this when I'm compiling the Blu-ray version. Then I'll make the folders BUT I'll be uploading it as an ISO for people to mount with a virtual optical drive software and even burn it out.

Yup, this project is mostly for me but I figure I'll always share them. ISO > Folders. FAR easier to burn.

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Jetrell Fo said:

Jonno said:

If you happen to have (or obtain) an older copy of AnyDVD, it will do a nice job of ripping the HD-DVD file structure.

I'd also recommend using ClownBD to extract (and, if you like, remux) the streams - it's a fairly painless route to HD-DVD > BD conversion.

 Would you put together a quick tutorial for home use please?

Sure, I'll pull something together. It's worth noting that ClownBD is simply a user-friendly frontend for eac3to - it'll do the same jobs, but for some it will be preferable to the commandline approach.