Info: 1997 SE DV Broadcast Info & Discussion — Page 3

I thought they were an upmix.

Would it not make sense to cut/edit the video first, if you're using multiple sources, along with a temp audio track, and sync the 5.1 cap to it when that's done?

Maybe I don't understand what you're doing then exactly, for anh for example, are you taking the flunk version and replacing the bad parts?

satanika said:

...for anh for example, are you taking the flunk version and replacing the bad parts?

Yes, he has done that already, and it's also converted to NTSC. I know this cause I'm doing the subs for him.

If you are using the Flunk version fo ANH for the basis of the edit then use the audio from that as a sync track. If you are editing video then you should really use the original audio track locked to the video track so any splices you make the tracks will still be locked and synced together which will make it easier in the long run to sync your new audio track.

Put the original audio track as your first track, which will be muted when rendering the 5.1. For your second track place the centre channel of the laserdisc 5.1. This way you can compare your sync track with this one. Don't adjust the centre channel to sync just yet though. Import the other 5 tracks of your 5.1 mix (1 disc at a time). Line all the beginning of your 5.1 tracks of disc 1 up and highlight each one. Right click on any one of the highlighted tracks and select "group>create new" (or you can just press "G" but this way you know its grouped them.) now these tracks are locked together. Do the same for discs 2 then 3. Now in the Options menu make sure that both "quantize to frames" & "enable snapping" are deselected. this will enable you to get a more accurate line up when syncing to the sync track. Now all you need to do is line up the centre channel of the 5.1 with the sync track. Just zoom in on the tracks so you can see just a few frames in view and then pick a section close to the beginning (the main theme is a good start) and line up the waveforms to match. Now you will either have to make some cuts or slightly change the length of each section to get this synced up. Someone posted a list of the reel changes somewhere in the forums so these would be good places to make the first cuts. Where you need to replace gaps at the end of each disc then use the 2004 mix. You will only need to use a few frames from this mix to patch it up so any differences in the mix will not be noticeable especially if you blend together each tracks by a few frames at least.

Hope this helps

dark_jedi said:

Thanks again Ady, but the Flunk track is 2.0, is that OK, and I actually just started ripping the 2004 audio LOL.

So you can sync a 5.1 track to a 2.0?

yes you can. Just compare the wavforms where dialogue and effects are and you will see very similar peaks etc. It doesn't matter what the original audio is and this is why you line up the centre channel to match. If you've got the centre channel synced up with the original track then you will likely hear a very slight phase shift when your sync and 5.1 tracks are played together but you should hear no echoing in the dialogue at all. It's best to use headphones for syncing the tracks because you can hear the echoing a lot clearer this way and it may not be apparent when listening through speakers. I've got some true 5.1 headphones which i always use and  are invaluable for doing my audio mixes & syncing tracks.

Right click on the surround diagram and select "LFE only" for the LFE track. Make sure that in each surround channel, when you have dragged the small diamond shape to the desired speaker (in the small diagram) that you click on the other speakers in each diagram to mute these channels for each track or you will get channel bleed though in your mix.

Youdon't have all the tracks, including the sync track, highlighted when you try to mute the track do you? And you're not trying to mute the tracks in the mixer section are you? You only need to click the mute icon next to the track you want to mute.

If the track sounded like chipmunks when you changed the fps in Besweet then you had sped it up and not slowed it down. Did you use besweets built in 25 >23.976fps conversion preset?

You have a problem with besweet because the 25>23.976 preset will slow it down not speed it up. Works every time for me

I got your back, man.  The other 2 were broken links.

Post updated, they were further in the hi-res poster art thread.  Also, why is it so impossible to unquote in the advanced text editor? @_@

For info, the 97 SE screenshots for Episodes 4, 5 and 6 of that DVD Active guide were taken from the TB Release. (Come to think of it, so were as the Episode 1 Theatrical version screenshots)