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In what way I should watch a Star Wars Marathon? — Page 4

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CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Not really any changes to my knowledge. Apparently one shot is shortened because it was impossible to pan & scan properly. I still am not even sure about that though.

I’ve never understood why some folks have a soft spot for pan and scan. I mean, I grew up on them, even into the early DVD era, but now I can’t bear to watch them. Even 2.45:1 cropped to 16x9 for cable eeks me.

Some people can’t move past nostalgia.

Episode I: The Ridiculous Menace / Episode II: Attack Of The Ridiculousness / Episode III: Revenge of the Ridiculousness

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CatBus said:

TV’s Frink said:

What the heck is film zero?

Star Wars. It doesn’t have an episode number. I guess (null) would have been better.

I get your point, and the point you’ll probably make in response to what I’m about to say, but it’s a little weird to not assign a number to one movie in a list full of movies with numbers.

Episode I: The Ridiculous Menace / Episode II: Attack Of The Ridiculousness / Episode III: Revenge of the Ridiculousness

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I have no real interest in embracing pan & scan. That was just the tape of TPM I had when it came out.

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Whenever I watch the Star Wars movies, I usually include ROTS, mostly because it is not boring like TPM, and to a lesser extent AOTC, and also because of the nostalgia I have for it (apart from TFA, it is the only Star Wars film that I remember the hype for). I’d probably give it 2.5 out of 4.

Not enough people read the EU.

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moviefreakedmind said:

Not really any changes to my knowledge. Apparently one shot is shortened because it was impossible to pan & scan properly. I still am not even sure about that though.

It’s a shot of Obi-Wan and Liam Neeson jumping over a gap during the fight with Mall. It’s shot from above looking down. It’s not in the pan&scan version.
That’s the only bit of PT trivia I know.

Ray’s Lounge
Biggs in ANH edit idea
ROTJ opening edit idea

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LuckyGungan2001 said:

Whenever I watch the Star Wars movies, I usually include ROTS, mostly because it is not boring like TPM, and to a lesser extent AOTC, and also because of the nostalgia I have for it (apart from TFA, it is the only Star Wars film that I remember the hype for).

That seems so strange to me. Your generation does not remember the hype of the Phantom Menace, or its flop.

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TV’s Frink said:

CatBus said:

TV’s Frink said:

What the heck is film zero?

Star Wars. It doesn’t have an episode number. I guess (null) would have been better.

I get your point, and the point you’ll probably make in response to what I’m about to say, but it’s a little weird to not assign a number to one movie in a list full of movies with numbers.

Naw, you won’t see my next point coming. It’s like a panther. Rrrowwr.

When you assign an episode number to Star Wars, you assign it a chronology with respect to the other films. When Empire came out as Episode V, it was obvious to much of the Star Wars loving world that the previous movie had been Episode I, and that there were many exciting adventures that had passed in the intervening time between the films, some of which were alluded to in Empire (Ord Mantell). The next year, Star Wars was assigned the episode number IV, which dashed the hopes of those missing episodes ever coming into being.

So while I’d personally call Star Wars Episode I, because that’s what it really was until 1981, that would confuse matters even more, because it conflicts with the episode number of a later movie that would be horrible to confuse with or even associate with Star Wars. So if you assign it IV, you lose some of the magic and wonder of the pre-1981 film, if you assign it I, you confuse young people who think there’s a Star Wars film that already has that number. So the solution is not to assign it a number at all, because it doesn’t have one.

The essential problem with including it in a list of movies with numbers is that it simply doesn’t have a number, not that you must give it a number to make it fit.

Project Threepio (Star Wars OOT subtitles)

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moviefreakedmind said:

LuckyGungan2001 said:

Whenever I watch the Star Wars movies, I usually include ROTS, mostly because it is not boring like TPM, and to a lesser extent AOTC, and also because of the nostalgia I have for it (apart from TFA, it is the only Star Wars film that I remember the hype for).

That seems so strange to me. Your generation does not remember the hype of the Phantom Menace, or its flop.

As a child I remember lumping TPM and the OT into the “old Star Wars” category, just because they were the ones released before I was born.

Not enough people read the EU.

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Wow, for a while I thought I was the youngest guy on the forums. Haha I thankfully am at least old enough to have always classified TPM as one of “the new ones”.

I was pretty young when TPM came out, so I only vaguely remember the hype. I mainly remember all the promotions from like the fast food chains having their little promotions where you’d get like “exclusive, limited time collector toys” with your happy meal and stuff like that.

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I really wish I was around for that.

Not enough people read the EU.

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Was Watto on a Pepsi machine? I think I remember Watto being on a Pepsi machine.

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Watto on a Pepsi can? Pshaw!

Ric Olié on a can of Mountain Dew, on the other hand? Now that’s something to behold!

Religious fundamentalism and irreligious fundamentalism are two sides of the same worthless coin.

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I like how they kind of ripped off the Sesame Street logo for the “collector can” tag.

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Exactly the age level GL was writing the SW prequels for, so it fits.

“That Darth Vader, man. Sure does love eating Jedi.”

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New? I’ve been careful to distinguish between SW 1977 and Episode IV for years now. 😉

(Not to mention Ben Kenobi vs. Obi-Wan, but that’s a whole different kettle of fish.)

“That Darth Vader, man. Sure does love eating Jedi.”

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joefavs said:

Was Watto on a Pepsi machine? I think I remember Watto being on a Pepsi machine.

He and Maul of all characters were used to sell Pepsi.

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LuckyGungan2001 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

LuckyGungan2001 said:

Whenever I watch the Star Wars movies, I usually include ROTS, mostly because it is not boring like TPM, and to a lesser extent AOTC, and also because of the nostalgia I have for it (apart from TFA, it is the only Star Wars film that I remember the hype for).

That seems so strange to me. Your generation does not remember the hype of the Phantom Menace, or its flop.

As a child I remember lumping TPM and the OT into the “old Star Wars” category, just because they were the ones released before I was born.

I was old enough that I remember the hype, but too young to register that it was a flop or to realize the masses considered it a flop. I was just like, Darth Maul’s lightsaber is so cool. Ah, to be young and clueless.

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I would put this in my sig if I weren’t so lazy.

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Start with the OT, and then when TPM comes around serve a progressive dinner.
Start with some assorted KFC chicken parts and some sides, with Pepsi.
When they land on Tatooine half an hour later, break out the Taco Bell tacos and cheesey fiesta potatoes, and Mountain Dew.
Order a pizza from Pizza The Hutt during the podrace so you can crack it open when they land on Coruscant, eating one slice per boring meeting, keeping a glass of Diet Pepsi maintained.
When they return to Naboo, eat some more frakking KFC and as much Pepsi as your body will allow.
With any luck, you’ll spend AOTC and ROTS in the bathroom or quietly having a seizure in the corner.

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No matter what order you decide to go with, don’t forget to play this before you start The Phantom Menace. Followed by this and this afterward.

You know, thinking on it, I think Marphalump would have been a big improvement over Jar Jar Binks.

Help back OMNO!

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Having done the George Lucas approved chronological, special edition marathon myself, I can safely say it does not work. The break between episodes III and IV is simply too jarring. You could also try and cut some out of the rotation because you think they suck, but you’ll inevitably miss large pieces of the story that way.

I think it’s important to recognize that Star Wars is the beginning, the opening shot, the 20-30 mins or so of exposition before anything even happens, the fact that it was originally made to be seen as a singular movie. And from there on realize that Episode I throws you right into the action and assumes you know exactly what a jedi, the force, a droid, and who Obi-Wan is and simply doesn’t work as an introduction to the universe. And from there on further realize that Episode III is the ending that brings everything full circle.

Realize on top of all this that they are indeed separate trilogies, made separately and telling two different stories. So you cannot really mix them up and get anything coherent either.

Only one order emerges from this: Release order. This is how they were made to be seen, each movie assuming only that you know what came before.

TFA doesn’t really fit in anywhere. It’s its own thing.