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In a few years, I’m going to watch the saga with my young children and am preparing now. Currently, here’s my plan:

EpIV DEED
EpV DEED
EpVI DEED
Rogue One

EpI (official or undetermined edit)
EpII (official or undetermined edit)
The Clone Wars (essential episodes/arcs - Mortis Trilogy, Yoda’s Journey, Ashoka Accused, etc)
EpIII (official or undetermined edit)
Rebels (not all at once, but this would be when to start it)

EpVII (official)
EpVIII (official)
EpIX (hopefully in theater)

Has anyone compiled a list of what they consider to be essential episodes of TCW?

My children almost know the stories better than I do at this point from books, apps, and toys, so how to handle the prequels is my greatest challenge. The little ones are obsessed with Darth Maul and badly want to see whatever it is he appears in. Obviously, under no circumstances would I lead-off with Episode I, but even when we do watch it I don’t want them becoming enamored with Jar Jar as the very young tend to do. Episode II is a dumpster fire and Episode III is only marginally better. I’m conflicted about wandering too much from the canon/official versions with fan edits, but I also haven’t yet sampled any. Hopefully, I can acquire l8wtr’s and Hal’s prequel trilogy.

Han Shot. Period.

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The Star Wars movies have given me much entertainment over the years (as well as plenty of frustration!), so I’ve been meaning to add my own conclusions to the whole ‘marathon’ viewing order conundrum for a while now…especially with so many movies being part of the overall franchise nowadays.

My main stipulation to myself was that I had to come up with a viewing order which INCLUDED the Prequel Trilogy…no matter how I felt about them! 😉

So here’s the final conclusions I’ve come to: one for myself, and one for complete ‘newbies’ to the whole franchise…

MY SUGGESTED VIEWING ORDER FOR COMPLETE ‘NEWBIES’, AND WHY -

For a whole heap of reasons, I will ALWAYS recommend that someone new to the saga begins with Ep. IV: ANH, no-matter-what…but mainly for it’s unsurpassed ‘mid-adventure’ opening, and it’s great introduction to the droids, and Vader, and the princess…and the fact that they will also get great introductions to other major characters along the way too…all wrapped-up in one enjoyable package which works as a satisfying ‘standalone’ experience for them to kick things off with.

(sorry George, but I’m afraid that I can NEVER suggest to any ‘newbies’ that they watch Ep. I: TPM as their FIRST taste of the franchise…and if they decide that Ep. IV: ANH is not their thing and never watch another instalment, at least they will have gotten a better sense of what the franchise involves!)

…but assuming they want MORE of Luke & co’s adventures, then it’s onto Ep. V: ESB and Ep. VI to round this trilogy off for them at this point…with ALL the further character introductions and surprises kept intact…

(apart from Jabba’s original ROTJ appearance unfortunately, as I’ll assume it’s the standard ‘official’ special edition versions our ‘newbie’ is having to watch for the purposes of this scenario…so therefore Jabba’s reveal is now telegraphed early during ANH:special edition, sadly)

…but hopefully they’ve had a really good time with this first trio of movies, and consider themselves ‘fans’ of the franchise now, and want to see ‘everything else’ too…

…well thanks to the fact that there’s a ‘continuation’ of the ‘Luke Skywalker’ saga with the Sequel Trilogy nowadays, it’s safe enough to introduce the whole Prequel Trilogy at this point in their overall viewing order - as a ‘flashback’ back to earlier events in the overall storyline - WITHOUT having to complicate things with a ‘machete order’, knowing that there’s better movies to come again, once they are out of the way!

…and then we’re back to conclude Luke’s journey with Ep. VII: TFA, Ep. VIII: TLJ, and Ep. IX respectively…with all it’s further revelations…

…and it’s only once our ‘newbie’ has FINISHED watching Luke’s storyline, that I’d recommend that they THEN GO ON to watch the likes of futher ‘Star Wars’ movies such as SOLO or OBI-WAN or BOBA FETT or JABBA or WHATEVER OTHER ‘standalone’ or FURTHER SEQUELS that are out there at the time…while leaving the ROGUE ONE movie until the very last for themselves…

…as an intoduction to REWATCH Ep. IV: ANH all over again…and then either do the whole SAME ‘marathon’ viewing order all over again…OR just include their favourites this time around…and REPEAT this process every year! 😉

So to recap -

  1. Start off with Ep. IV: ANH

  2. Ep. V: ESB

  3. Ep. VI: ROTJ

  4. ‘Flashback’ to Ep. I: TPM

  5. Ep. II : AOTC

  6. Ep. III: ROTS

  7. Resume Luke’s storyline with Ep. VII: TFA

  8. Ep. VIII: TLJ

  9. Ep. IX

  10. Then watch the likes of SOLO etc. from here onwards…as long as you leave ROGUE ONE until the very last for yourself at this point…

  11. …and finally it’s time to REWATCH Ep. IV: ANH, and start the whole process off once again - in ANY order you prefer this time around, now that you’ve seen them all!


HOWEVER, HERE’S WHAT MY OWN IDEAL FUTURE ‘MARATHON’ VIEWING ORDER WOULD INVOLVE, AND WHY -

(but when I say ‘marathon’, I mean spreading them out over a few days or so for myself…as I certainly wouldn’t attempt literally watching one-after-the-other…no way!)

  1. ROGUE ONE - seeing as I’ve already had the good fortune to have been introduced to STAR WARS ('77) and the other 2 Original Trilogy sequels as my very first experience of the franchise…I’d now be content to start off my own viewing order with this particular movie.

(ideally with the cutlist I’ve got in mind, which involves a LOT LESS Vader to begin with - and with no made-up introductory ‘scroll’ by the way…as I’d be content to hear the existing brief ROGUE ONE theme, but would simply replace the current ROGUE ONE title with the familiar receding STAR WARS title instead - so that those particular words would still kick off my overall ‘marathon’ at the point I’ve got in mind for them…and means I’d keep the ‘static’ starfield opening of the others instalments too. Also, I can’t recall if it was a concept by Hal or Dig…but I loved the idea of a more ‘sombre’ bit of music to END the movie on, as the credits roll…so would gladly include the neat idea of ‘reprising’ some of the ominous first few bars from the opening of Ep. IV: ANH…as a way to ease towards the next instalment)

  1. STAR WARS REVISITED: HD (of course)

  2. THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK REVISITED: HD (of course)

  3. RETURN OF THE JEDI REVISITED: HD (of course)

  4. Ep. I: TPM - yes indeed, I’m actually willing to include the prequels into my own ‘marathon’ these days, for a bit of nostalgia(!)…as long as they’re placed into it at THIS point so that they act as a ‘flashback’ in the way I described earlier.

(ideally with the cutlists I’ve got in mind, which are extensive! - and I’d prefer to include a short, introductory ‘prologue’ to begin this first ‘flashback’…using some footage I like which reprises a moment from the previously-watched STAR WARS REVISITED - as a way of including some additional gravitas which nicely sets the scene for these ‘past’ events…and so that I’d have something to look forward to, as I stick on this movie! - basically, once the blue words A LONG TIME AGO IN AGALAXY FAR, FAR AWAY… fade away, I’d cut to a shortened BLACK & WHITE version of Luke and Ben’s conversation…which ends with Ben declaring “…before the dark times, before the EMPIRE!” - and then we’d return to colour as the STAR WARS title crashes onscreen and recedes)

  1. Ep. II: AOTC

  2. Ep. III: ROTS - I’ve got 2 re-structured endings that I like for this. One where Padme dies at childbbirth (though not of ‘losing the will to live!’), regardless of what Leia tells Luke in ROTJ…and one which leaves her alive, despite my reservations that she went along with the Jedi’s advice that baby Luke be separated far away from her indefinately - but which doesn’t include the ‘Anne Boleyn’ footage. I’m slightly leaning to her dying however, as it allows me to include certain additional shots I like…though NOT Vaders reaction to it! And this gives a far more ‘tragic’ feel to this overall ‘backstory’ I reckon - so I guess I’ve made up my mind about that, after all. 😃

(and the good thing about including the prequels as a ‘flashback’ during a ‘marathon’…is the fact that they allow for a certain period of time to pass since I would have watched ROTJ…which makes it seem less jarring to see such elderly characters all of a sudden, when I go to watch the Sequel Trilogy)

  1. Ep. VIi: TFA

(ideally with the cutlist I’ve got in mind, which keeps Kylo’s helmet on for longer…and moves the superweapon firing after Han’s murder…and which ends with the close-up shot of Rey offering the lightsaber as the credits roll, instead of the ‘helicopter’ shot from above)

  1. Ep. VIII: TLJ

(ideally with the cutlist I’ve got in mind, which involves making Luke admit the truth to Rey about what happened with Kylo RIGHT FROM THE START - so that he doesn’t come across as evasive to her about it - and I’m also considering another alternative which eliminates using ANY of the shots of Luke planning to kill him with his lightsaber altogether, but in a way which still shows what happened between them quite effectively - doing it either of these ways means I can re-strucure things so that I DON’T have to include the ‘shirtless’ scene of Kylo putting Luke into a bad light with Rey, as he tries to gain some sympathy - in addition, I’d prefer to end this movie on the great panning shot of the Falcon we see after Leia’s last reassuring words to Rey…INSTEAD of including the whole ‘broom kid’ sequence)

  1. Ep. IX - with any luck, I won’t feel the need to alter ANY scenes whatsoever in this next instalment…but I have the feeling that porgs might fly before that happens! 😉

(by the way, I’m hoping for 2 things NOT to happen in this upcoming movie - one is for Leia NOT to be re-cast by anyone else in Carrie’s place…and the other is for Kylo NOT to be ‘reedemed’ in any way from the daddy-murderer he turned into - especially as that would mess up certain ways I want to re-cut THE LAST JEDI for myself! - so don’t let me down J.J.)

  1. …and AFTER viewing all those suggestions in the order described above…I’d then go onto watching the likes of SOLO and any other future movies that come along - in the same way I previously outlined…ready to REPEAT this whole scenario all over again for my NEXT ‘marathon’ one day, by once again starting off with ROGUE ONE! 😃

 

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I just watched the Despecialized Edition for the first time tonight and it was an incredible and emotional experience. A film I haven’t seen in over 20 years.

During the viewing, I became overwhelmed with the desire to follow it immediately with Rogue One - which I think is an incredible film. It keeps me right in the sweet spot of the Empire/Rebellion conflict. The Empire is as basically as strong as it will ever get and the fragile Alliance scores a decisive blow. So for my own personal re-watching experience, I expect my order going forward to be:

  1. ANH
  2. Rogue One
  3. ESB
  4. ROTJ

I would not strongly advocate for this to be the viewing order for anyone completely new to the saga, but for a seasoned viewer it is a good experience. However, if you ever find yourself sharing the saga with someone who would really like to know how the Alliance got the plans that were the key plot device of A New Hope then this order could really work from a world-building perspective too.

Finally, I could be persuaded to start someone with Rogue One IF I knew the individual quite well and knew they would likely be turned off by the “dated” feel of a relatively low-budget 1977 movie. That being said, having not watched ANH through in at least a decade or more, I was both surprised and excited just how much the Despecialized Edition really, really holds up in 2018.

Han Shot. Period.

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release order, skip the prequels.

maybe throw in Black Angel before The Empire Strikes Back.

Solo tbd

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TV’s Frink said:

rainbow battle kid said:

Black Angel

I don’t what this is but I highly doubt it.

its a very strange little film that was released in the UK before ESB (from my recollection, i am not checking wikipedia to be sure right now, yhwx or chyron can do that)

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dahmage said:

TV’s Frink said:

rainbow battle kid said:

Black Angel

I don’t what this is but I highly doubt it.

its a very strange little film that was released in the UK before ESB (from my recollection, i am not checking wikipedia to be sure right now, yhwx or chyron can do that)

Will do.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Angel_(1980_film)

Black Angel is a 1980 British short film that was shown before the theatrical release of The Empire Strikes Back in certain locales. It was the directorial debut of Star Wars art director Roger Christian. […] In June 2015, it was announced that Christian was working on a feature film adaptation of Black Angel, which would be in part funded on crowd-funding site, Indiegogo.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

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For the future i pick.

ANH 4 Revisited
Or
ANH 4 Despecialized 3.0

ESB 5 Revisited
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ROTJ 6 Revisited
Or
Episode 6 Revenge of the sith (Snooker)

Episode 1 Dawn of War (Snooker)

Rogue one: The Battle Of Scarif
Or
Any Edit

    TFA
     Or
  Any Edit

Episode 8 The Last Jedi
(I have not seen it yet)

“I think you’re the reason why some people sleep with a gun under there pillow”

“Ryan Gosling staring off into the distance”

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Star Wars: a certain Project that i haven’t seen it being mentioned here as much, but that will be coming out in the next few months or Revisited’s Purist version.

The Empire Strikes Back: Revisited or Despecialized

Return of the Jedi: Remastered, by darthrush

The Phantom Menace: Hal’s

Attack of the Clones: Hal’s

Revenge of the Sith: all sorts of things

The Force Awakens: Hal’s

Rogue One: theatrical

In that order

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Sorry if my Order is Messy.

“I think you’re the reason why some people sleep with a gun under there pillow”

“Ryan Gosling staring off into the distance”

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paja said:

Sorry if my Order is Messy.

If it’s messy, it ain’t order; it’s chaos.

Religious fundamentalism and irreligious fundamentalism are two sides of the same worthless coin.

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As for catching up in time for Solo

Rogue One (Blu-Ray)
Star Wars (THX Laserdisc)
Holiday Special (Nostalgia Critic review)
The Empire Strikes Back (THX Laserdisc)
Cloak of Deception
The Approaching Storm
Labyrinth of Evil
Return of the Jedi (THX Laserdisc)
The Force Awakens (Blu-Ray)
The Last Jedi (4K Ultra HD)

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Collipso said:

Star Wars: a certain Project that i haven’t seen it being mentioned here as much, but that will be coming out in the next few months or Revisited’s Purist version.

The Empire Strikes Back: Revisited or Despecialized

Return of the Jedi: Remastered, by darthrush

The Phantom Menace: Hal’s

Attack of the Clones: Hal’s

Revenge of the Sith: all sorts of things

The Force Awakens: Hal’s

Rogue One: theatrical

In that order

I know it isn’t what you were talking about but just in case you’re still interested since I know you once were I plan on finishing up my project once the final 4k77 is out. It’s mostly done already I just need to drop in the mos Eisley footage.

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Possessed said:

Collipso said:

Star Wars: a certain Project that i haven’t seen it being mentioned here as much, but that will be coming out in the next few months or Revisited’s Purist version.

The Empire Strikes Back: Revisited or Despecialized

Return of the Jedi: Remastered, by darthrush

The Phantom Menace: Hal’s

Attack of the Clones: Hal’s

Revenge of the Sith: all sorts of things

The Force Awakens: Hal’s

Rogue One: theatrical

In that order

I know it isn’t what you were talking about but just in case you’re still interested since I know you once were I plan on finishing up my project once the final 4k77 is out. It’s mostly done already I just need to drop in the mos Eisley footage.

Wow I’d be very interested, actually. Most of the time I don’t feel like watching the OOT, but a SE/OOT hybrid like Revisited Purist, but it still doesn’t please me as much. I believe your version will. Thanks for the heads up!

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Here's my Fixed Update. Viewing Order.

  1. A New Hope Revisted purist/Harmy DE

  2. The Empire Strikes Back Revisted HD

  3. Return Of The Jedi Harmy/Darth Rush

  4. TFA: A Gentle Restructure

  5. The Last Jedi Or Unconfirmed Edit

“I think you’re the reason why some people sleep with a gun under there pillow”

“Ryan Gosling staring off into the distance”