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Never taught Vader how to do the lightning? He taught it to Dooku. I don’t know how long he was his apprentice, but surely Vader should have learned it by then. You could argue he can’t do it cause he don’t have hands. But his mechanical hands seem to be fine for force choking and force pushing.

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MathUser said:

Never taught Vader how to do the lightning? He taught it to Dooku. I don’t know how long he was his apprentice, but surely Vader should have learned it by then. You could argue he can’t do it cause he don’t have hands. But his mechanical hands seem to be fine for force choking and force pushing.

Wouldn’t it be too dangerous for him to learn it ? His parts aren’t plastic if I remember it well.

[and yeah it was a huge mistake - among others - to show Dooku mastering the lightning attack…]

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Vader conquring Force Lightning would be more harmful to himself than the being who would be the intended victim. Using it could either render his cybernetic limbs useless and could also shut down his breathing apparatus. The latter of which killed him in ROTJ.

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I wonder if wearing rubber boots could be enough.

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I always just assumed he wasn’t as powerful as the Emperor. And I see no reason to abandon that theory.

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TV’s Frink said:

I always just assumed he wasn’t as powerful as the Emperor. And I see no reason to abandon that theory.

Well he isn’t. Vader is a Master of the Dark Side but even lesser Sith can conjure up Force Lightning with varying degrees of effectiveness.

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It’s a shitty attack anyway. You only need a lightsaber to dismiss it (or “Force hands”). If Yoda had told Luke about that he might have never thrown away his saber.

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Clever implementations of Force Lightnibg can circumvent that.

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Lord Haseo said:

TV’s Frink said:

I always just assumed he wasn’t as powerful as the Emperor. And I see no reason to abandon that theory.

Well he isn’t. Vader is a Master of the Dark Side but even lesser Sith can conjure up Force Lightning with varying degrees of effectiveness.

Show me anywhere in the movies where that’s indicated.

There’s The Emperor and Vader. There are no “lesser Sith.”

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In 30 years why do you think Emporer…never washed his robe?

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TV’s Frink said:

Lord Haseo said:

TV’s Frink said:

I always just assumed he wasn’t as powerful as the Emperor. And I see no reason to abandon that theory.

Well he isn’t. Vader is a Master of the Dark Side but even lesser Sith can conjure up Force Lightning with varying degrees of effectiveness.

Show me anywhere in the movies where that’s indicated.

There’s The Emperor and Vader. There are no “lesser Sith.”

Dooku is a lesser Sith and he can conjure Force Lightning.

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The question is why didn’t the Emperor teach Vader force lightning if he taught Dooku. My original answer was because the prequels suck…in other words, he shouldn’t have taught Dooku in the first place. The reasons for Vader not using force lightning should be based on the OT, not the PT. And based on the OT, there’s Vader and The Emperor and that’s it.

TV’s Frink said:

I always just assumed he wasn’t as powerful as the Emperor. And I see no reason to abandon that theory.

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The right answer is that it would damage Vader’s cybernetics. PT hate is fine in most circumstances but not in this one.

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I guess that makes sense. He never coated his cybernetics with rubber, plus it could be dangerous for his breathing apparatus.

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If only the Emperor is strong enough to use force lightning, the specifics of Vader’s cybernetics are irrelevant. There’s nothing in the OT to contradict my theory.

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Your theory hinges on “The Emperor is sooo powerful/evil that he…” which is lamer than shit.

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If the emporer is so powerful then why hasn’t he mastered cartwheels and flips? Even Vader knows how to do those.

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In all seriousness if The Emperor is so powerful why did he do nothing when Vader picked him up? He seemed rather surprised when Vader turned on him so him continuing to use Force Lightning seemed accidental rather than malicious

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Lord Haseo said:

Your theory hinges on “The Emperor is sooo powerful/evil that he…” which is lamer than shit.

He’s so powerful/evil that he can use force lightning. How is that lamer than shit?

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Lord Haseo said:

In all seriousness if The Emperor is so powerful why did he do nothing when Vader picked him up? He seemed rather surprised when Vader turned on him so him continuing to use Force Lightning seemed accidental rather than malicious

His over confidence is his weakness. He didn’t expect Vader to turn on him.

If you just watch the OT it’s easy to assume that the Emperor is just more powerful. When I was a kid and first saw Dooku use lightning it was a big what the fuck moment. Even in TFA you don’t see Kylo Ren use lightning. It shouldn’t be ubiquitous for sith and you certainly shouldn’t be able to deflect it so easy.

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In 30 years why do you think Emporer…was so powerful/evil that he used force lightning?