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I'm a feminist!

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Here's why. I'm a victim of the damn patriarchy too.

Yesterday my baby daughter blew out her pants at the pizza joint. Due to cultural stereotypes that limit both women's AND men's expectations, there is nowhere to change her diaper in the men's room. 

So I'm left with changing her on the sink counter in the men's room, or being a weirdo in the ladies room. 

I went with the ladies room. It wasn't busy, and my little angel isn't going on some dirty ass counter. 

THIS is why I consider myself a feminist. 

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Well at least you didn't do what at least two women have done in my presence and changed a nappy on the table of a restaurant while people are eating.

In both cases this was despite there being proper facilities and had to be stopped by me with the help of the waiting staff.

Hepatitis A anyone?

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That's weird.  I almost always see changing stations in the men's room.  And, barring that, there's usually a "family restroom."  But at any rate, you did the right thing.  I'm all for eliminating gender-segregated restrooms anyway.

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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I think I would have opted for the sink counter in the men's room.   I am not comfortable entering the ladies room.  

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Curious, when I made my previous post, my spell checker said that men's was misspelled.   Stupid spell check. 

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Warbler said:

I think I would have opted for the sink counter in the men's room.   I am not comfortable entering the ladies room.  

When you have kids, you learn to do all sorts of stuff you aren't comfortable with.

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Gaffer Tape said:

That's weird.  I almost always see changing stations in the men's room.  And, barring that, there's usually a "family restroom."  But at any rate, you did the right thing.  I'm all for eliminating gender-segregated restrooms anyway.

They are often in men's rooms, but I've found plenty that don't. 

I'm not sure about eliminating them, just because I hear ladies like to talk in the bathroom, and I prefer the stoic silence when peeing.

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The loo in the college I did my Foundation course in was unisex.

It was odd for a day or so but in the end it was nice talking to girls while washing my hands.

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Gaffer Tape said:

  I'm all for eliminating gender-segregated restrooms anyway.

but then we'd have to get rid of the urinals, wouldn't we?  I mean would it really be appropriate for a man to stand at a urinal, do his business, while females could be walking around the bathroom?  

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Warbler said:

Gaffer Tape said:

  I'm all for eliminating gender-segregated restrooms anyway.

but then we'd have to get rid of the urinals, wouldn't we?  I mean would it really be appropriate for a man to stand at a urinal, do his business, while females could be walking around the bathroom?  

Why?  Men's bathrooms already have both.  Women just wouldn't use them, like they already don't.  As for the latter portion of your post, do you tend to look at men in urinals when you're in the bathroom?  Do you worry about men looking at you when you're using the urinal?  If not, why are you worried about women?

That said, and you may find this related, I think urinals should have partitions, and I absolutely hate those communal trough-style urinals like you find in sports stadiums.

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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Warbler said:

Gaffer Tape said:

  I'm all for eliminating gender-segregated restrooms anyway.

but then we'd have to get rid of the urinals, wouldn't we?  I mean would it really be appropriate for a man to stand at a urinal, do his business, while females could be walking around the bathroom?  

Meh. I don't use the urinals anyway.I like to sit down while I pee.

 

And yeah, I consider myself to be a feminist too.

I don't get why items of clothing should be segregated either.

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Gaffer Tape said:

Warbler said:

Gaffer Tape said:

  I'm all for eliminating gender-segregated restrooms anyway.

but then we'd have to get rid of the urinals, wouldn't we?  I mean would it really be appropriate for a man to stand at a urinal, do his business, while females could be walking around the bathroom?  

Why?  Men's bathrooms already have both.  Women just wouldn't use them, like they already don't.  As for the latter portion of your post, do you tend to look at men in urinals when you're in the bathroom?  Do you worry about men looking at you when you're using the urinal?  If not, why are you worried about women?

Since we're on the topic, I greatly prefer urinals that have dividers.  Not that I'm worried about someone looking at my junk, but I hate having to be real obvious about *not* looking at someone else's junk.  Especially at work.  I always feel like an idiot looking up at the ceiling.

Not to mention, I can't admire my own junk.

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greenpenguino said:

I don't get why items of clothing should be segregated either.

If you've been following a few of my latest videos, you will know that I vehemently agree.  Therefore, I make sure I don't segregate them.

Related:  here's me meeting Jinkx Monsoon!!!  Hope this shows up...

 

Since we're on the topic, I greatly prefer urinals that have dividers.  Not that I'm worried about someone looking at my junk, but I hate having to be real obvious about *not* looking at someone else's junk.  Especially at work.  I always feel like an idiot looking up at the ceiling.

And if you see my edit to my earlier post, Frink, you'll see that I tend to agree

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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^you look very pretty young lady but they guy in the pink wig is gorgeous.

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She should considering she just won RuPaul's Drag Race this season.

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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Gaffer Tape said:

Warbler said:

Gaffer Tape said:

  I'm all for eliminating gender-segregated restrooms anyway.

but then we'd have to get rid of the urinals, wouldn't we?  I mean would it really be appropriate for a man to stand at a urinal, do his business, while females could be walking around the bathroom?  

Why?  Men's bathrooms already have both. 

yes but men's rooms don't have women.

Gaffer Tape said:

Women just wouldn't use them, like they already don't.  As for the latter portion of your post, do you tend to look at men in urinals when you're in the bathroom?  Do you worry about men looking at you when you're using the urinal?  If not, why are you worried about women?

Because they are women?  Sorry, but I just don't feel comfortable standing at a urinal doing my business while women are there.   Its just too weird. 

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That said, and you may find this related, I think urinals should have partitions,

no objections here.

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and I absolutely hate those communal trough-style urinals like you find in sports stadiums.

I think you find they are mostly only in older bathrooms, as in more than 50 years old.   I don't think they use trough-style urinals in new bathrooms.

greenpenguino said:

I don't get why items of clothing should be segregated either.

because some clothing is designed for women and their body shape and some is designed for men and their body shape? 

Gaffer Tape said:

greenpenguino said:

I don't get why items of clothing should be segregated either.

If you've been following a few of my latest videos, you will know that I vehemently agree.  Therefore, I make sure I don't segregate them.

Related:  here's me meeting Jinkx Monsoon!!!  Hope this shows up...

oh good God.

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Yeah the bag does let down the whole ensemble.

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Bingowings said:

Yeah the bag does let down the whole ensemble.

Well what else is s/he supposed to carry things around in??

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greenpenguino said:

I don't get why items of clothing should be segregated either.

because some clothing is designed for women and their body shape and some is designed for men and their body shape?

 

That's kinda bogus. Yeah there are T-shirts and jeans and stuff which are designed for women's body shapes, but that doesn't mean there can't also be skirts and tights and stuff for men... sometimes I like to wear dresses too :(

It's annoying that I can never find high heels in my size too.

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Gaffer Tape said:

greenpenguino said:

I don't get why items of clothing should be segregated either.

If you've been following a few of my latest videos, you will know that I vehemently agree.  Therefore, I make sure I don't segregate them.

Related:  here's me meeting Jinkx Monsoon!!!  Hope this shows up...

oh good God.

Oh, don't be such a prude.

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Warb, does it bother you sharing a bathroom with a gay guy?

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^ That was to be my next question.

Warbler said:

oh good God.

I know I should feel insulted by that remark, but I can't help imagining that line as said by William Daniels's John Adams, and that makes me smile.

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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I dislike using bathrooms at work. For an example of a unisex bathroom in a workplace, see Ally McBeal. I'm with Warbler on urinals + women. It's weird. When I was living in Chicago there was a big event on Lake Michigan, and coming back from that with many thousands of people, a hapless young guy had to pee, so he found the nearest tree. Two girls screamed at him, seriously calling him a pervert, etc. That was uncalled for, it was obviously an emergency. Anyway, creating a public room where it's okay for a guy to undo his pants with women around doesn't solve any problem. Plenty of men and women are uncomfortable enough with public bathrooms. And Boost, excellent reason to be a feminist!

The blue elephant in the room.

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I hate pink.

But I do wish I had the right physique to wear anything other than baggy tshirts, I would look atrocious in women's clothes. Not to mention the torches and pitchforks that would be waiting just outside my door, here in BigotLand.

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Mrebo said:

I'm with Warbler on urinals + women. It's weird.

Same question as for Warb then.

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Where is BigotLand?  'Cause I either want to stay very far away from it or flounce flamboyantly through it and cause them to gnash their teeth in frustration.  I'm not sure which.

As for Mrebo, I agree that that was uncalled for, and I wish humans as a whole would stop being so immature and squeamish when it comes to natural bodily functions.  Still, I have a hard time finding an exact corollary between doing your business in public where anyone can see it whether they choose to or not and doing it in a place specifically designed for it where people who choose to enter will do so knowing full well that other people will be using the facilities.

And I've never seen Ally McBeal, so the comparison is lost on me.  I have, however, seen Boy Meets World, and the co-ed bathrooms in that show seem pretty similar to the situation Bingo described.

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.