TheBoost said:
I DONT WANT TO UPGRADE!!! I LIKE WINDOWS XP!!!!!!!!!!!!
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I know what you mean, I was there with you a few years back. But, I can tell you Win 7 is pretty dang good, I see it as the new XP. People will be upset in 10 years when they stop supporting it.
Yeah some of todays comic artists should have read less Frank Miller when they were teenagers.
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DuracellEnergizer said:
Here's why I don't read modern superhero comics anymore:
(WARNING: these pictures are gory)
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http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091111041956/marvel_dc/images/6/63/Death_of_Terra-Man_01.jpg
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Holy gratuitous violence, Batman! As context is everything, I presume that's not some evil alternate universe Superman or something?
It's sad the major publishers feel they have to do that to be relevant today. What is left that little kids can read now? Not that kids buy comics like they used to...
Mind you, Heavy Metal magazine had a certain forbidden allure when I was a teenager, with all the sex, nudity, and things you couldn't get away with in mainstream comics at the time. But I don't recall my favorite strips from that ever being that gory.
Marvel had better not gore up Star Wars when they get it back. :(
Where were you in '77?
Ryan McAvoy said:
Yeah some of todays comic artists should have read less Frank Miller when they were teenagers.
I don't recall The Dark Knight Returns having disembowelment scenes. ;)
Where were you in '77?
Ryan McAvoy said:
Yeah some of todays comic artists should have read less Frank Miller when they were teenagers.
Yeah can I be honest and say i never really liked his work. I know it was groundbreaking at the time but I started reading a few years after that and I have to say I always found his artwork ugly,his stories overly dark(If that is your thing more power to you but I always enjoyed the high adventure aspect of comics more),and his treatment of woman cringe worthy. I was just never able to get into him and now we have an inter generation of writers and artists who think of him as the god of comics and it has completely turned me off mainstream american comics. You pretty much have to go to other countries or smaller comics if you want something with the same style heroics that you have in the movies.
Now please don't misunderstand me as saying that you can't tell certain types of stories in comics or that they can't get dark. I love Watchmen after all but there are limits and the darkness has to serve a purpose besides being dark because hey if something is dark that makes it better and more adult,I don't think it does. My thoughts on darkness in adventure stories are best summed up in the Red letter media review of episode 3.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABcXyZn9xjg
Any way when i pick up a comic about say Superman or Spiderman I am looking for high adventure because let's face it those characters don't led themselves to really dark story telling. I don't want to see Superman ripping people's arms off and I don't expect to see Spiderman selling his mirage to the devil(As long as I have been reading comics Spiderman and Marry Jane were a married couple and I had stuck with them through some really bad story lines,even the clone saga,so when that happened it was the last straw for me.)
Every story doesn't have to be completely dark and devoid of hope and our heroes should be tested but in the end they should still act like heroes and not selfish nut jobs(I am looking at you civil war)and comic should never have an image like that last one in them. I have seen a lot of horror movies in my time but that just made me feel like throwing up. If you ask me the perfect comic appeals to kinds but is smart enough for adults. When I was a kid I read comics all the time but I tell you one thing if I ever have kids I will not be letting them near modern comics.
If you want to see some good comics check out All Star Superman,Tom Strong,or most of the Doctor Who comics,that is the type of comic book I wish there was more of.
SilverWook said:
Holy gratuitous violence, Batman! As context is everything, I presume that's not some evil alternate universe Superman or something?
It's Superboy Prime AKA Emo Superboy AKA another character modern DC has fucked up to whittle more money out of its shrinking fanbase of aging manchildren.
The same Superboy Robot Chicken revealed to be result of Wonder Woman getting knocked up? The newest DC special they did was hilarious if you didn't see it. ;)
Where were you in '77?
DuracellEnergizer said:
SilverWook said:
Holy gratuitous violence, Batman! As context is everything, I presume that's not some evil alternate universe Superman or something?
It's Superboy Prime AKA Emo Superboy AKA another character modern DC has fucked up to whittle more money out of its shrinking fanbase of aging manchildren.
AKA the guy Linkara is always mocking by giving him the stupidest voice in history.
This is just sad,they do know that since kids can no longer read comics their sales are just going to keep shrinking right?
Anyone who thinks you need this or the way Frank Miller and other writers treat woman to tell a good story is insane. Comics have gotten so far out there you can't even parody them any more. I hope that one day a few decades from now will will all look back on the grimdark age(As I call modern comics)and laugh at them as a stupid phase comics grew out of. You know maybe if the comic book companies would hire some woman in positions of power they could hold the fifty year old man chrildren who seem to be running the business at the moment in check and bright back some adventures that kids can read and that don't make me want to throw up. Or they could hire some of the writers who worked on Batman the Animated series or Spectacular Spiderman,they seemed to understand how to tell good comic book stories without going to far. Anything would be better then this.
DrCrowTStarwars said:
This is just sad,they do know that since kids can no longer read comics their sales are just going to keep shrinking right?
DC and Marvel are both run by continuity-obsessed fanboys who haven't been kids in decades, thus their audience is largely made up of continuity-obsessed fanboys who haven't been kids in decades.
Basically, they only write stories for themselves -- stories which are almost always Z-grade ripoffs of Frank Miller and Alan Moore stories -- and are incapable of seeing past their own egos to understand that they're shooting themselves and the companies they work for in the foot.
Or they could hire some of the writers who worked on Batman the Animated series or Spectacular Spiderman,they seemed to understand how to tell good comic book stories without going to far. Anything would be better then this.
I know that Paul Dini worked as a writer on Detective Comics. I haven't read any of his storylines, though, so I can't say how good they are.
DuracellEnergizer said:
DrCrowTStarwars said:
This is just sad,they do know that since kids can no longer read comics their sales are just going to keep shrinking right?
DC and Marvel are both run by continuity-obsessed fanboys who haven't been kids in decades, thus their audience is largely made up of continuity-obsessed fanboys who haven't been kids in decades.
Basically, they only write stories for themselves -- stories which are almost always Z-grade ripoffs of Frank Miller and Alan Moore stories -- and are incapable of seeing past their own egos to understand that they're shooting themselves and the companies they work for in the foot.
Or they could hire some of the writers who worked on Batman the Animated series or Spectacular Spiderman,they seemed to understand how to tell good comic book stories without going to far. Anything would be better then this.
I know that Paul Dini worked as a writer on Detective Comics. I haven't read any of his storylines, though, so I can't say how good they are.
Yeah That is what I thought. To me comics should be for the kid in all of us not the blood thirsty adult. What is more they keep trying to top themselves and like pop stars who wear less and less clothing every time they go on stage pretty soon there will be nowhere left to go and that is just sad. What is more if you talk to the fanboys all you hear about is how great modern comic books are because they are dark. That is one reason I love Linkara's reviews he sees this poorly written garbage for what it is. Just because something is dark doesn't make it good. Darkness like everything else has to serve a point. Man I hate living in the grimdark age.
I don't know about Paul Dini,I will have to see if I can find his stuff online. If you ask me his work in the animated universe was far more adult then any of the comics we have today because the darkness that was there had a point and he remembered he was telling stories about men in capes who fight crimes and made the stories for kids.
I really wish modern comics would look to shows like Doctor Who for their tone. I mean that show can be scary,sad,and dark but it also never loses it's sense of adventure and it rarely goes too far for the kids and yet it still appeals to adults and remains popular. Maybe the next generation of writers will be fans of stuff like Doctor Who and we will be able to leave this sad stupid area behind us at last.
DrCrowTStarwars said:
What is more if you talk to the fanboys all you hear about is how great modern comic books are because they are dark. That is one reason I love Linkara's reviews he sees this poorly written garbage for what it is.
Yeah, I love Linkara's reviews, too. It's refreshing to hear the opinion of a comics fan who doesn't buy into the "Grim 'n' gritty is awesome!" BS.
DuracellEnergizer said:
DrCrowTStarwars said:
What is more if you talk to the fanboys all you hear about is how great modern comic books are because they are dark. That is one reason I love Linkara's reviews he sees this poorly written garbage for what it is.
Yeah, I love Linkara's reviews, too. It's refreshing to hear the opinion of a comics fan who doesn't buy into the "Grim 'n' gritty is awesome!" BS.
Yeah i started watching them a couple years back and when in the first review he made jokes about how bad One more day was(I have not read a Spiderman comic since and I have read Spiderman since I was six)I knew I was a fan.
I tend to avoid comic book fans for the exact reason that grimdark has become such fad that the only people left reading comics are grimdark fans,it's so refreshing to hear from a fan who doesn't buy that and will recommend good comics that are not grimdark.
Hopefully there are more people like us out there just waiting to become writers and things will change at some point.
I'll take a moment to b*tch about all the comic talk. I know we have a comic thread here somewhere...
But is it a "complain about comics" thread?
TheBoost said:
Leonardo said:
TheBoost said:
"The Stanford Prison Experiment," a famous sociology experiment, proved nothing except that people have no idea how a good experiment is designed.
When you bring it up, and I rip every single aspect of the experiment to shreds, you can't follow up with "Yeah, but don't you agree with the results anyways?"
I've studied it for uni and found it fascinating. I'm interested in hearing your rebuttal.
It's not about people being good or bad. It's the 'experiment' itself was flawed on so many levels it's not even worth reading about.
-Sample size was 24 white male Stanford students. This is so unacceptably small as to make the experiment worthless out of hand.
-Self selection. All the volunteers specifically came in because they were attracted to an experiment about prisons. This alone would make any results borderline meaningless.
-No control group. No pre-testing. No repeatablility.
-But the main kicker for me is overwhelming bias. Zimbardo, the experimenter, specifically wanted to prove people were bad. Then he himself took a play-acting role in the experiment guiding the process. That alone makes all his results garbage.
He should have designed the experiment, then not even been involved. To jump in and manipulate it as "The Warden" changed it from science to really intense LARPing.
It wasn't an experiment by any real scientific standard. It was a publicity stunt
I have to agree with all of those points.
I want to bitch about the lack of a bitching about comics thread.
I want to bitch about all people named Jeffrey. Where do they get off!?*
*Is joking and is completely random and is not a reference to any specific event or persons
Right, this one's a cracker! I finish dinner, go to the loo to wash me hands, turn the light on without looking, put one foot in the room and almost break my fucking arse!! Apparently during dinner a pipe decided to break and flood the bathroom floor. Now, the bloody thing is inside the wall, every other fixture is bone dry, we had to close the main valve and now we have to wait til morning when the plumber will come. Until further notice, we have to use bottled water to wash ourselves. FUCKING BRILLIANT!!!
Possessed said:
I want to bitch about all people named Jeffrey. Where do they get off!?*
The bus stop.
TV's Frink said:
Possessed said:
I want to bitch about all people named Jeffrey. Where do they get off!?*
The bus stop.
You seem to know an awful lot about this young men's love-life.
I would like to bitch about the lack of people using the word bitch in the bitching thread.What is wrong with you bitches? Don't you know we can't have a bitching threat if you don't bitch. So start bitching or I will bitch slap each and every bitching one of you. It's time to bitch so start bitching or I will keep bitching about the lack of the word bitch.
I sometimes say it loud when Moth3r refuses to turn the cooling units back on.
This thread isn't about bitching. It's about b*tching.
Actually you might want to read the first page.
I'm so pissed off I feel like blowing my head off.
Who said bitching had to be specific?